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2006-02-19 03:14:46
[S.P.S]1on1killa
Member
+28|6969|Germany, Berlin
hello everyone!!

i recently purchased a new mainboard: MSI PT880 Neo FISR. It is kind of old, but better than what i had before. anyway, i connected eveything the way its supposed to be. however, if i start my PC, my PC shows me that it cant find any devices installed. however, in my BIOS the harddrive is listed and marked as primary master and should be booted first.

I connected my harddrive over one IDE plug. My harddrive is ULTRA ATA (no clue what that means). A friend told me that i have to re-install windows. however, another friend of mine did the same thing as i did and for him it worked at the first try (putting the arddrive onto a new mainboard that is and getting it to work).

what should i do now??

thank u very much for your help!!!!
2006-02-19 03:17:33
Badvock
Squishing Your Head
+1|6906|Bolton UK
Exactly what error messgae are you getting after POST?
2006-02-19 03:21:36
[S.P.S]1on1killa
Member
+28|6969|Germany, Berlin
well, i cant really expalin what exactly it says, because it is alot of information at the same time. see, if my PC starts, there is alot of white typing, and at the very beginning it says no IDE devices found.

sry bout not getting it any more specific, but ill try to write down what it says...
2006-02-19 03:26:59
Badvock
Squishing Your Head
+1|6906|Bolton UK
Well by the sound of it you are getting a post message telling you that the BIOS cannot find any harddisks. Once you get past the whole block of writing at the beginning where it tells you what processor you have, how much ram etc. You should get a second message where it should be trying to load the operating system.

I sugggest hitting "Del" when you start the machine and in the Bios general settings re-detect any hard disks / cd-roms to make sure that the Bios has picked them up. If you still have problems disconnect any cd-rom devices and see what happens. Also it might be worth changing the IDE cable between the board and drive to see if this is the problem, also try another molex power connector from the PSU to the drive as it may have a dodgy pin, and not be supplying enough power to the drive to spin it up.

Is the board new or 2nd hand?? could be a faulty IDE port if you get no joy.

Last edited by Badvock (2006-02-19 03:28:32)

2006-02-19 03:33:29
[S.P.S]1on1killa
Member
+28|6969|Germany, Berlin
thx for the support, well i just took a closer look and it says in of the menus of the mainboard BIOS that there are not enough disks to create a RAID. but i only have one harddrive and one DVD-rom player as well as a floppy disk device. Also, my BIOS tells me that it detects the harddrive and dvd device: contadiction?!?!

the mainboard is 1st hand.

thank u very much for your help, ill try what u told me

Last edited by [S.P.S]1on1killa (2006-02-19 03:34:27)

2006-02-19 03:36:30
Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|6901
You need to whip the hard drive.

Your HD is fine, when you post it list your HD.  Problem is, there are windows system files that are looking for your old motherboard.  It will not boot your old OS with your new board.

Always make backups of your really important stuff, and whenever installing any new hardware (Mobo, cpu) do a clean install of your OS.  Takes some time, however it is worth it in the speed you will get, and all the errors you will not get.
2006-02-19 03:38:03
Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|6901
Also, goto your mobo's homepage and look up your board in teh faq or knoledge base.  You can find a lot of helpful info in there.  Also there tech support can help you out.  Goto play e mail tag with em.

Google is your friend too!
2006-02-19 03:40:34
[S.P.S]1on1killa
Member
+28|6969|Germany, Berlin
So i do have to to re-install windows?   well, thats sucks, but ok....ill do it than i guess.........thy for your help and time spend on my helplessness
2006-02-19 03:41:31
Badvock
Squishing Your Head
+1|6906|Bolton UK
Ahhhh you have connected a serial ATA disk to the raid controller on your MB. For raid you need at least 2 disks of equal size to create either a mirror or stripe partition. If you look in the manual of your mainboard you may find that there are a second set of serial ata ports that are able to use disks as standalone units. Connect the disk and the bios should find it ok and boot. As stealth42o says you may also have to re-install your OS however this is Not always the case. I just upgraded my system and as part of the upgrade I went from an MSI k8n NeoII Fisr to an Asus an8 32 SLi deluxe and all I had to do was rip out the old drivers and re-install the new ones and everything was peachy.

Give me a minute and i will look up the specs of that board and post a solution for you (if there is one)
2006-02-19 03:44:15
-_{MoW}_-Assasin
Member
+13|6957|Australia

[S.P.S]1on1killa wrote:

So i do have to to re-install windows?   well, thats sucks, but ok....ill do it than i guess.........thy for your help and time spend on my helplessness
Yes, after this, you will have to reinstall windows because u changed motherboard, just use the XP Repair Windows Option
2006-02-19 03:52:38
Badvock
Squishing Your Head
+1|6906|Bolton UK
Looking at the mainboard manual it unfortunately does not tell me which ports are the standalone and which are raid On the MSI Neo II board I had there were 2 seperate raid controllers, one which was raid and one which wasn't. Which leads me to believe that all the ports are connected to a single serial ata controller in the southbridge. I would suggest turning OFF or DISABLING any raid options in the Bios (Make sure you don't disable the serial ata ports themselves though)
2006-02-19 03:55:41
[S.P.S]1on1killa
Member
+28|6969|Germany, Berlin
well, i only operate one 80GB harddrive, so i cannot use this in RAID mode, can i? also, i looked at this internet site iwhich said my mainboard does not support RAID in IDE channles (sry, my english sux). again, i only operate one harddrive, so why is my mainboard desperatly looking fo RAID?

thx again
2006-02-19 03:56:43
[S.P.S]1on1killa
Member
+28|6969|Germany, Berlin
alright, thx for the help, ill try that ...........
2006-02-19 03:59:29
Badvock
Squishing Your Head
+1|6906|Bolton UK
No you cannot use 1 drive in any kind of Raid mode, u need a minimum of two.

However there seems to be some confusion here, are you connectting to a standard IDE channel or Serial ATA ??

Either way you need to disable any raid options in bios. With some boards they have an extra IDE port that will allow you to set up a raid stripe set, as well as Serial ATA raid.

make sure if you are connecting via an IDE cable that you are connecting to the correct port. It should be labelled as IDE0.
2006-02-19 04:18:00
[S.P.S]1on1killa
Member
+28|6969|Germany, Berlin
i connected my harddrive to one of my two IDE channels. my harddrive does not support SERIAL-ATA.

also, i do not have an IDE 0 chanel, only IDE1 and IDE2.
2006-02-19 05:09:16
[S.P.S]1on1killa
Member
+28|6969|Germany, Berlin
ok, so i deceided to re-install windows...hoever, im not quite sure how to do that properly....should i get rid of all the other software like BF2 and so on AND THAN un-install OS?? and how do i uninstall OS?
2006-02-19 06:48:16
Badvock
Squishing Your Head
+1|6906|Bolton UK

[S.P.S]1on1killa wrote:

i connected my harddrive to one of my two IDE channels. my harddrive does not support SERIAL-ATA.

also, i do not have an IDE 0 chanel, only IDE1 and IDE2.
In that case you need to connect your drive to IDE channel 1 and make sure any raid options are turned OFF in the Bios. Once your hard disk is detected properly it's worth tring to boot to see what happens. Either you will be greeted with the BSOD or the system will constantly reset. On the other hand you may be lucky and the system will boot ok but require new drivers for the mainboard.

If the system will not boot, go into the BIOS and make sure that the first boot device is set to your cd-rom. Re-boot the system with your Windows XP cd in the drive and the system will ask you to "press any key if you want to boot from the disk" follow the instructions on screen and choose to install windows. From this point you have 2 options, you can attempt a repair of the existing installation, or you can choose to install a new version. NOTE

A) repair does not always work
B) If you choose to install new you will be asked if you want to format your existing partition (NOW THIS BIT IS IMPORTANT) If you choose to format ALL DATA on the drive will be lost, gone, kaput. So do this only if you know you have nothing to lose.

You dont HAVE to format of course you can just choose to leave the file format in place and the system willinstall another copy of windows in a directory called C:\Windows1 once you have done this you can simply delete the old installation of windows.

Hope this helps, and good luck

 

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