who would want to be french??? lulzrdx-fx wrote:
They aren't even French.. they're wanna-be Frenchclogar wrote:
well that can be expected seeing as how they are frenchrdx-fx wrote:
Except for the French Foreign Legion. They're fucking useless redshirts, rogues, and generally idiot foreigners that the French use as throw-away cannon-fodder for jobs that they can't find Frenchmen with balls enough to accomplish. If you have any indication these idiots are in your area, clear them out. Roach motels and mousetraps may be too weak.. Artillery fire missions may be too much.
Poll
Hardest Special Forces Training
| Sas | 47% | 47% - 31 | ||||
| Green Berets | 3% | 3% - 2 | ||||
| U.S. Navy Seals | 24% | 24% - 16 | ||||
| Norsof | 1% | 1% - 1 | ||||
| Air Force Special Tactics: Combat Control | 1% | 1% - 1 | ||||
| French Foreign Legion | 13% | 13% - 9 | ||||
| Other, Explain | 7% | 7% - 5 | ||||
| Total: 65 | ||||||
SAS
then,again, i am a bit biased
6 month selection course looks badass:
Selection Phase 1 - Endurance
The first phase of selection is known as the endurance or 'the hills' stage. This is the endurance portion of selection and not only tests a candidate's physical fitness, but also their mental stamina. To pass this phase, a high level of determination and self-reliance is vital.
The hills stage lasts 3 weeks and takes place in the Brecon Beacons and Black Hills of South Wales. Candidates have to carry an ever-increasingly-heavy bergen over a series of long timed hikes, navigating between checkpoints. No encouragement or criticism is provided by the supervising staff at the checkpoints. SAS Directing Staff (DS) are fully-badged members of the regiment and leave each candidate to their own devices. This can be a marked contrast from the selectee's experience in their parent units. They would be used to their instructors shouting constant instructions at them, along with encouragement and abuse. The demands of life in a special forces unit require each member to be self-motivated.
The endurance phase culminates with 'the long drag', a 40 mile trek carrying a 55lb bergen, that must be completed in under 24 hours.
Selection Phase 2 - Jungle Training
Those who have passed stage 1 have to then pass jungle training. Training takes place in Belize, in the heart of deep jungles. Candidates learn the basics of surviving and patrolling in the harsh conditions. SAS jungle patrols have to live for weeks behind enemy lines, in 4 man patrols, living on rations. Jungle training weeds out those who can't handle the discipline required to keep themselves and their kit in good condition whilst on long range patrol in difficult conditions. Again, there is a mental component being tested, not just a physical. Special Forces teams need men who can work under relentless pressure, in horrendous environments for weeks on end, without a lifeline back to home base.
Selection Phase 3 - Escape & Evasion & Tactical Questioning (TQ)
The small number of candidates who have made it through endurance and jungle training now enter the final phase of selection. The likelihood of a special operation going wrong behind enemy lines is quite high, given the risks involved. The SAS want soldiers who have the wherewithal and spirit required to escape and evade capture and resist interrogation.
For the escape and evasion (E&E) portion of the course, the candidates are given brief instructions on appropriate techniques. This may include talks from former POWs or special forces soldiers who have been in E&E situations in the real world.
Next, the candidates are let loose in the countryside, wearing World War 2 vintage coats with instructions to make their way to a series of waypoints without being captured by the hunter force of other soldiers. This portion lasts for 3 days after which, captured or not, all candidates report for TQ.
Tactical Questioning (TQ) tests the prospective SAS men's ability to resist interrogation. They are treated roughly by their interrogators, often made to stand in 'stress positions' for hours at a time, while disorientating white noise is blasted at them. When their turn for questioning comes, they must only answer with the so-called 'big 4' (name, rank, serial number and date of birth). All other questions must be answered with 'I'm sorry but I cannot answer that question.' Failure to do so results in failing the course. The questioners will use all sorts of tricks to try and get a reaction from the candidates. They may act friendly and try to get their subjects chatting; or they stand inches away from their subjects and scream unfavourable remarks about the sexual habits of their mothers. Female interrogators may laugh at the size of their subject's manhood. Of course, a real interrogation would be a lot more harsh and the subject would not know that they get to leave alive when it's all over. That said, days of interrogations and enduring the stress positions and white noise break down a man's sense of time and reality. The SAS are looking for men who can withstand such treatment long enough so that the effects of revealing any operational information they might have can be lessoned by HQ.
After all that...
The small number of men who make it through selection receive the coveted beige beret with the distinctive winged dagger insignia. As a newly badged member of the Special Air Service they can feel justly proud. They are not out of the woods, however, as they are now effectively on probation. As brand new members of the regiment, they will be watched closely by the DS as they enter continuation training. Many SAS soldiers are RTU'd (returned to unit) during training
then,again, i am a bit biased
6 month selection course looks badass:
Selection Phase 1 - Endurance
The first phase of selection is known as the endurance or 'the hills' stage. This is the endurance portion of selection and not only tests a candidate's physical fitness, but also their mental stamina. To pass this phase, a high level of determination and self-reliance is vital.
The hills stage lasts 3 weeks and takes place in the Brecon Beacons and Black Hills of South Wales. Candidates have to carry an ever-increasingly-heavy bergen over a series of long timed hikes, navigating between checkpoints. No encouragement or criticism is provided by the supervising staff at the checkpoints. SAS Directing Staff (DS) are fully-badged members of the regiment and leave each candidate to their own devices. This can be a marked contrast from the selectee's experience in their parent units. They would be used to their instructors shouting constant instructions at them, along with encouragement and abuse. The demands of life in a special forces unit require each member to be self-motivated.
The endurance phase culminates with 'the long drag', a 40 mile trek carrying a 55lb bergen, that must be completed in under 24 hours.
Selection Phase 2 - Jungle Training
Those who have passed stage 1 have to then pass jungle training. Training takes place in Belize, in the heart of deep jungles. Candidates learn the basics of surviving and patrolling in the harsh conditions. SAS jungle patrols have to live for weeks behind enemy lines, in 4 man patrols, living on rations. Jungle training weeds out those who can't handle the discipline required to keep themselves and their kit in good condition whilst on long range patrol in difficult conditions. Again, there is a mental component being tested, not just a physical. Special Forces teams need men who can work under relentless pressure, in horrendous environments for weeks on end, without a lifeline back to home base.
Selection Phase 3 - Escape & Evasion & Tactical Questioning (TQ)
The small number of candidates who have made it through endurance and jungle training now enter the final phase of selection. The likelihood of a special operation going wrong behind enemy lines is quite high, given the risks involved. The SAS want soldiers who have the wherewithal and spirit required to escape and evade capture and resist interrogation.
For the escape and evasion (E&E) portion of the course, the candidates are given brief instructions on appropriate techniques. This may include talks from former POWs or special forces soldiers who have been in E&E situations in the real world.
Next, the candidates are let loose in the countryside, wearing World War 2 vintage coats with instructions to make their way to a series of waypoints without being captured by the hunter force of other soldiers. This portion lasts for 3 days after which, captured or not, all candidates report for TQ.
Tactical Questioning (TQ) tests the prospective SAS men's ability to resist interrogation. They are treated roughly by their interrogators, often made to stand in 'stress positions' for hours at a time, while disorientating white noise is blasted at them. When their turn for questioning comes, they must only answer with the so-called 'big 4' (name, rank, serial number and date of birth). All other questions must be answered with 'I'm sorry but I cannot answer that question.' Failure to do so results in failing the course. The questioners will use all sorts of tricks to try and get a reaction from the candidates. They may act friendly and try to get their subjects chatting; or they stand inches away from their subjects and scream unfavourable remarks about the sexual habits of their mothers. Female interrogators may laugh at the size of their subject's manhood. Of course, a real interrogation would be a lot more harsh and the subject would not know that they get to leave alive when it's all over. That said, days of interrogations and enduring the stress positions and white noise break down a man's sense of time and reality. The SAS are looking for men who can withstand such treatment long enough so that the effects of revealing any operational information they might have can be lessoned by HQ.
After all that...
The small number of men who make it through selection receive the coveted beige beret with the distinctive winged dagger insignia. As a newly badged member of the Special Air Service they can feel justly proud. They are not out of the woods, however, as they are now effectively on probation. As brand new members of the regiment, they will be watched closely by the DS as they enter continuation training. Many SAS soldiers are RTU'd (returned to unit) during training
Last edited by henno13 (2008-02-14 01:31:49)
SAS, just because we're 'herd' and sexy.
Unless you been through all courses how the hell can you tell which ones the toughest other than guessing?
Id like to Guess the SAS is the hardest as everyone who knows says they are the best.
Id like to Guess the SAS is the hardest as everyone who knows says they are the best.
Spetznaz
4RAR / Australian SAS
trueFunky_Finny wrote:
SAS, just because we're 'herd' and sexy.
That's what I was going to say lolDesertFox- wrote:
How would 95% of this forum know anything about the training any of these groups undergoes?
<insert whatever country im in>
especially with today's annoying useless teens.CommieChipmunk wrote:
School bus driver...
Null Vote.
Last edited by PvtStPoK (2008-02-14 04:16:06)
I vote green berets because I'm a green beret fanboi, and those people have to go through so much shit it's unbelievable. But i'm biased xD.
Maybe french foreign legion, they're good aswell but argh
no comparison in here, STOP comparing special forces, impossible.
Maybe french foreign legion, they're good aswell but argh
no comparison in here, STOP comparing special forces, impossible.
inane little opines
I think the SAS has the most publizised training regime of the lot, everyone seems to know its basic breakdown of what you go through and even where they do it, up on Brecon Beacons.
I know the SEAL's do hell week where they only recieve something like 4 hours of sleep.
Green Berets I would think are probs the most widely taught, they have such a huge skill set all the way up to recruiting locals to fight opponents and training them up.
Delta Force I have no knowledge of their training apart from the House of Horrors which is the counterpart of the SAS Killing House.
But there's no real way to compare special forces training, they're all trained for different tasks and different ways of completing them.
Apart from SF I hear the South Korean Marines are pretty tough.
I know the SEAL's do hell week where they only recieve something like 4 hours of sleep.
Green Berets I would think are probs the most widely taught, they have such a huge skill set all the way up to recruiting locals to fight opponents and training them up.
Delta Force I have no knowledge of their training apart from the House of Horrors which is the counterpart of the SAS Killing House.
But there's no real way to compare special forces training, they're all trained for different tasks and different ways of completing them.
Apart from SF I hear the South Korean Marines are pretty tough.
Last edited by M.O.A.B (2008-02-14 04:25:18)
Sas
DDR Training.
U.S. army SFOD-D.
1st Special Forces group.
1st Special Forces group.
u mean sas?MAGUIRE93 wrote:
U.S. army SFOD-D.
1st Special Forces group.
What everyone wrote:
Whatever country I belong to