Iran? North Korea? (No i dont want to start a political debate on here, too many already)<{SoE}>Agamemnar wrote:
What dumbass nation would actually use Nuclear Weapons enough that it would tarnish their reputation forever, create more fanatical enemies of the world, destroy the environment, all before surrendering?
Nukes are the dumbest cop-out ever invented.. and it seems to be the only thing Americans fall back on.
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Just want to point out to Eucalyptus, this is the Chatter, start a thread in serious debate about nukes if you want to. Armoured Fury does look kickass, time to learn to fly.... A-10 sounds cool...
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Iran doesn't have nukes yet, if they did US of A soldiers would be all over thier asses by now. Dunno about North Korea...
Mmmmmmmm.... Blowing stuff up in the US of A as the Chinese, revenge for all the times on Wake....
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Iran doesn't have nukes yet, if they did US of A soldiers would be all over thier asses by now. Dunno about North Korea...
Mmmmmmmm.... Blowing stuff up in the US of A as the Chinese, revenge for all the times on Wake....
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Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
The people who have mentioned The idea that the U.S is here to stay are essentially correct. The U.S has the best military in the world, bar none, and they're buddies with alot of other nations. Short of an international nuclear exchange, which would be bad for everyone the U.S will not be defeated. I'm not saying the United States can't lose a war, I'm saying that no country with any military sense will try and invade.
The logistics of getting an invasion force into the United states would be insane. The only two countries that border the U.S have no respectable military strength, and anyway don't really have any incentive to attack. An invasion by sea would be decimated by air power before it even reached land, and even if a successful beachhead were created the supply lines for reinforcing that beachhead would be enormous. They would be fighting a military superpower on its own turf, and every piece of equipment and every soldier that died would have to be replaced from thousands of miles away.
If a nation were to beat the United States in a war, it would most likely be a defensive victory. As in, the United States was invading them and were turned back, but as we have seen in Iraq and Afghanahowever-you-spell-it the U.S is very, very good at moving lots of troops and equipment around.
And on topic, armored fury looks fun.
The logistics of getting an invasion force into the United states would be insane. The only two countries that border the U.S have no respectable military strength, and anyway don't really have any incentive to attack. An invasion by sea would be decimated by air power before it even reached land, and even if a successful beachhead were created the supply lines for reinforcing that beachhead would be enormous. They would be fighting a military superpower on its own turf, and every piece of equipment and every soldier that died would have to be replaced from thousands of miles away.
If a nation were to beat the United States in a war, it would most likely be a defensive victory. As in, the United States was invading them and were turned back, but as we have seen in Iraq and Afghanahowever-you-spell-it the U.S is very, very good at moving lots of troops and equipment around.
And on topic, armored fury looks fun.
We also fall back on the mightiest military ever known to man, in the history of empires.(BRU)Timothy wrote:
Nukes are the dumbest cop-out ever invented.. and it seems to be the only thing Americans fall back on.
I know, I just wanted to make a comment on how unrealistic the AF booster pack is (yes i know bf2 overall is unrealistic, its a game, but the premise for the booster pack is just off in the way world.) You guys are at fault. You've opposed my opinion, forcing me to respond lmaoFlecco wrote:
Just want to point out to Eucalyptus, this is the Chatter, start a thread in serious debate about nukes if you want to.
Skruples hits it on the spot. Your discussion on establishing a beachhead, supply lines and fighting on the defensive, on own turf, reminds me of a paper I've written on Operation Sealion, a proposed invasion plan of England by Germany during WWII. It is later known that they have encountered many problems in it and postponed it indefinitely due to the recurring problems of establishment of a beachhead, supply lines and fighting an enemy on it's own turf. And all this because of the ENGLISH CHANNEL.
WHAT ABOUT THE PACIFIC/ATLANTIC OCEANS?
lol...
ok i just want to say you guys are funny. 2nd i cant wait euro force ehh but this is gonna be all out ownage
I agree. It is arogant to destroy the world with nukes, especially if your losing. Christ, do it to do it if your gonna do it. Thats like kicking the 1st place soldier who has 120 points and a gold star shoe in because you lost as the admin.<{SoE}>Agamemnar wrote:
What dumbass nation would actually use Nuclear Weapons enough that it would tarnish their reputation forever, create more fanatical enemies of the world, destroy the environment, all before surrendering?
Nukes are the dumbest cop-out ever invented.. and it seems to be the only thing Americans fall back on.
I've been to Montreal thrice by the way and admire St.Catherines ST. wink* wink* very nice there.
i like sex
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Doesn't China have the second largest army?
pakistan , india o yeah france and us they already have used it on japan so why not a second time(BRU)Timothy wrote:
Iran? North Korea? (No i dont want to start a political debate on here, too many already)<{SoE}>Agamemnar wrote:
What dumbass nation would actually use Nuclear Weapons enough that it would tarnish their reputation forever, create more fanatical enemies of the world, destroy the environment, all before surrendering?
Nukes are the dumbest cop-out ever invented.. and it seems to be the only thing Americans fall back on.
Won't napalm and nukes desiminate and melt those little yellow chinese men away?ST19AG_WGreymon wrote:
Doesn't China have the second largest army?
(i'm asian in race so don't accuse me of racism. I'm allowed. looool )
HOLY FUCK! What would be cooler is if there were AI bots that were civillians LOL
Actually In reality China has the largest armed forces (just 2 billion in its army alone) and as for the Aircraft carrier i would change your mind on them not having any they have just bought a couple off the Russians (I know Russian stuff tends to be a bit rusty but look at the Migs in the right hands they have held the title of best fighter to fighter capabilites for ALONG time and i know one thing Chinese when they decide to fix things boy do they do it overload style) All of the PLA is going through a massive update in every department they have newer weapons then most countries half of their vechiles have just been updated so i think it would be rather interesting to watch what happens over there now. As for the Mec that could always happen just think if half of the Arab states joined up they have two things ALL THE OIL AND A SHIT LOAD OF MONEY so do count them out in life.
yueah with our own facesxX[Elangbam]Xx wrote:
HOLY FUCK! What would be cooler is if there were AI bots that were civillians LOL
and or you can set ur own foto-pic in there...
and some real people-portraits like moviestars and..wait...how about bush inspecting tha troops...
and Arnold as gouvernor..
and monica and bill in certain activity...;=O
and how about some cola billboards...
and spilled sex-magazines on the floor..
we need scenery editor.
and preservatives
and some willing chicks...wooah
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I don't hope for a new Karkand either... Something similar to Mashtuur, or Sharqui, only flatter, with pretty little houses and school children bots.
lolJanysc wrote:
I don't hope for a new Karkand either... Something similar to Mashtuur, or Sharqui, only flatter, with pretty little houses and school children bots.
i reckon the number 2 will be like an industrial colour like brown or orange
yeah nice US being invaded, but how did they get invaded? wouldnt the costal defence respond? i bet there would a los angeles map
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And in no way will America be the next superpower. It's too pollouted, corrupt and environmentally un-friendly. Just because it has manpower does not mean it can get all it's shit together.
Pff, the us of a the most powerfull nation ?
It can't even provide its own people when there's a small wind blowing over the country... oh shut up katrina, we'll get some rescue people out of european countries to save our people. Because we dont know what to do ?? What happened ? We'll just sit back and relax acting like powerfull people with no brains and money while their is total chaos all around.
We dont care about those homeless men, women and children on the streets... no, let the other countries handle it, they have all the money, we dont.. wtf.. Here in Belgium there was a fucking money funds to send to the US. The usa has got a fuckin lot of money to create weapons of mass destruction, but does not have any to feed their own people and provide in health care.. sjeezes..
About the invading thing. Seems to be an easy thing to me. Now dont get me wrong on this matter, but only a few groups of those fucking terrorists made the usa shake on their knees.. and it wasnt even an invasion.. I really dont think other nations can get the usa down by any means of invasion. But there are other ways to "invade"
And dont say the goverment didnt know shit of all that stuff..just a bunch of ignorant money minded fucks.
Maybe i will get flamed on this matter, but dont get me all wrong, i'm on your side and i hate those fucked up islamic twats.. Maybe its time to draw a cartoon or something. Who knows.
peace !
It can't even provide its own people when there's a small wind blowing over the country... oh shut up katrina, we'll get some rescue people out of european countries to save our people. Because we dont know what to do ?? What happened ? We'll just sit back and relax acting like powerfull people with no brains and money while their is total chaos all around.
We dont care about those homeless men, women and children on the streets... no, let the other countries handle it, they have all the money, we dont.. wtf.. Here in Belgium there was a fucking money funds to send to the US. The usa has got a fuckin lot of money to create weapons of mass destruction, but does not have any to feed their own people and provide in health care.. sjeezes..
About the invading thing. Seems to be an easy thing to me. Now dont get me wrong on this matter, but only a few groups of those fucking terrorists made the usa shake on their knees.. and it wasnt even an invasion.. I really dont think other nations can get the usa down by any means of invasion. But there are other ways to "invade"
And dont say the goverment didnt know shit of all that stuff..just a bunch of ignorant money minded fucks.
Maybe i will get flamed on this matter, but dont get me all wrong, i'm on your side and i hate those fucked up islamic twats.. Maybe its time to draw a cartoon or something. Who knows.
peace !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2_Armored_FuryWikipedia.org wrote:
Vehicles
* AV-8B Harrier II/GR.7
* SU-25 Frogfoot
* A-10 Thunderbolt II
* Q-5 Fantan
* Reconaissance Helicopter
Attack Jets with the ability to use rocket pods and cluster bombs, and agile Scout Choppers which will reveal nearby enemies
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The thing is, today's American Military isn't the mightiest thing known to man in the history of Empires. For their times, the other empiric armies were far greater.
all this hub bub about empires and the such has me thinking the following....."shut up! no one really cares! i live in the Us and i dont give a damn! U live in sweeden? I dont give a damn! You play BF2? I give a damn all the sudden!"
anyways. Both these addon pack things will never be very good unless they have one thing......A massive sea battle!
I want crusers, carriers, subs, destroyers (all player controlled like in BF 1942) with oodles of jets and choppers so there are at least 5 attack helos per side and at least 10 fighters and bombers per side. There would be no flags to cap, the side that looses all their ships first loses!
anyways. Both these addon pack things will never be very good unless they have one thing......A massive sea battle!
I want crusers, carriers, subs, destroyers (all player controlled like in BF 1942) with oodles of jets and choppers so there are at least 5 attack helos per side and at least 10 fighters and bombers per side. There would be no flags to cap, the side that looses all their ships first loses!
p.s. The 2 will be Pink er i mean Light red!
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