BF2S Forums Is the Challenger 2 really the best tank in the world?

BTW: SCAR isnt only USA development... Its Herstal FN (Belgium) too Nea... Get back to the Tanks

elite wrote:

usa bring it on, we kick ure ass anyday, and also your men would kill them selves because they are dumbasses, BRITIAN OWNS ALL, ALWAYS AS, ALWAYS WILL DO!!!!

You're the most ignorant of them all.

AMEN!!!and dont forget the Butt Ugly Women !!!

War Man wrote:

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

I've seen alot of "Flame the USA" threads lately, and it actually looks like the yanks here are starting to cool down, and accept the fact that they are not super-power 1337 war gods.

But there's a new threat in town... The brits. I used to like england alot. Shabby accent perhaps and awful food, but i always admired u guys.

Until now.

U freaks are even worse than the americans, your not gods and you would be owned by almost any european country today, accept the fact that the UK is no "empire" anymore, no it is nothing but a small useless little island surrounded by ice cold water. Stop being so fuckin cocky and some of you idiots like elite, go fuck yourself, ok people lets start make "FUCK THE UK" -threads

I like that attitude shifty, keep it up.

Likewise.  The worst thing i've ever seen is this and it totally figures it's a Canadian that made it.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=13283

=FDX=VEga wrote:

Makes me laugh how you tell us all how good the SCAR is (by the way its not called the SCAR anymore - that was just the name of the project to find a new Assault Rifle for SOCOM), when we all know that the Rifle Mark 16 and Rifle Mark 17 are designed and built by FN USA which is another branch of Fabrique National (a Belgian company) Oh and by the way - the XM8 is replacing the M16 (designed with help from Heckler and Koch) as the US standard assault rifle, the SCAR project was for special forces.

If you read here: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm and here: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as70-e.htm. you will find that you are wrong about the Scar-L(L stands for light) Scar-H(H stands for heavy), and the XM-8(which is still a prototype otherwise it wouldn't have the X).

Last edited by War Man (2006-02-11 11:06:12)

Glad to know my thread is popular, even though the subject has been almost completely changed.

A  Leclerc owns a Challenger 2 hands down

I was in a tank regiment for 13 years, the challenger tank may not be the best, but you get a good crew with 120mm cannon staring at you, your history..

elite wrote:

nah challenger 2 is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when you grow up u will understand.

Growing up, look who's talking.

Most people would say it's the American M-1 Abrams. Their reasoning would be simple; the M-1 has actually fought in two wars since 1991 and handily defeated whatever was sent against it. Tank buffs, however, tend to look more closely at details casual observers ignore. The buffs tend to consider the German Leopard 2A6 as superior to the latest model M-1A2. The Leopard 2A6 has a longer 120mm gun barrel, giving it's shells greater penetration. The Leopard also has reactive armor for the top of the tank, where the latest top-attack missiles seek to penetrate the thinner armor there. The Leopard also has a number of other novel touches, like a video cam facing to the rear of the tank, and hooked up to a screen in the drivers compartment. This allows to driver to go into reverse more quickly and confidently. Backing up quickly is a frequently used combat maneuver. The Leopard also has a diesel engine, rather than the fuel guzzling gas turbine (jet engine) of the M-1. Thus the M-1 has a little more zip, but the Leopard gets much better gas mileage.

But a tank does not stand by itself. It is part of a combat force, and the most important component is the crew. In this department, the M-1 has several advantages. Most importantly, American tank crews have had a lot of combat experience since World War II, German crews have had none. While German training is good, they are still using conscript crews, while U.S. tankers are all volunteers and in service longer. American combat doctrine has also developed more rapidly than Germany's and currently makes heavy use of the battlefield Internet and superior situational awareness. All of this makes an enormous difference. A tank is not the sum of all it's parts, it's only as good as the system it operates within. Here the M-1 has a big edge. Moreover, the Americans get an additional slight edge because of their willingness to use depleted uranium in their composite armor, and tank shells. Then again, if the U.S. and German switched tanks, the Leopards with American crews would be superior
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200418.asp

RingPirate wrote:

Don't know about real life but in Bf2 it's that order for me so far.
1st Chinese Tank
2nd T90
3rd Abrams (think the view is worse than with the others also feels bulkier than for example the Chinese one which rocks)

I'm really interested how the 2 new one will compare. I just hope the Challenger won't be that slow, cause in Bf2 that would make for an real disadvantage. In that case I would go with the Leopard but we'll see.

On the topic which one's the best tank in real life, that question seems stupid. Like one only teenagers could take interest in. No offense intended.

PS: For looks it's
Challenger->T90->Abrams->Leopard->..................>.........>...............>any tank ever built>........>LeClerc

I see no sense in the fact that one faction in the game has two tanks.  Unless they plan to make one stand out from the others.

The M1A2 Abrams is the best. Mainly due to the crews. The tank is pretty good though.  Challenger 2 and Lepoard 2A6 is a tie, it depends on the crew there. Then its the Merkava, T90 and th enew Chinese tank. Then last the French tank LeClerc.  Sorry France. But your tank is at least in my top 10.  other tanks arent worth even talking about. It all depends on the crews training and experience between the closely tied tanks.