BF2S Forums BF2142 doesn't feel as smooth as BF2

Last edited by r2zoo (2007-07-14 22:30:05)

Last edited by Buzerk1 (2007-07-15 07:22:28)

maverick749 wrote:

I have a good computer with a 8800GT and play with high setting but 2142 seems slower at almost everything from moving to selecting with scroll and the time it take to display and use them such as nades and guns. Is this just part of the game? Do you guys notice this when coming from BF2?

Furthermore, previouslly I was using a 7800GT in BF2 and when I upgraded to a 8800GT 320MB, I didn't notice really any performance gain? Is it that the 8800GT was desighned for DX10 and isn't being used to it full potentiol? So it is just like the previouse serios but just more memory?

Bertster7 wrote:

r2zoo wrote:

With the 8 series your more or less paying for DX10 unless you go to the higher end card(expensive)  Most of the 7 series are similar in performence if not out perform lower end 8 series.

As for 2142, I actually feel it runs smoother then BF2, so I cant really compare.

What are you on?

There is no 7 series card that outperforms his 8 series card (except the 7950GX2 and that's only a little bit quicker - midpoint between the 8800GTS and 8800GTX, although of course that varies depending on settings and the game running).

The G80 series are much, much quicker than the G71 cards, it's not just DX10 you pay for.

Bertster7 wrote:

Buzerk1 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

What are you on?

There is no 7 series card that outperforms his 8 series card (except the 7950GX2 and that's only a little bit quicker - midpoint between the 8800GTS and 8800GTX, although of course that varies depending on settings and the game running).

The G80 series are much, much quicker than the G71 cards, it's not just DX10 you pay for.

He said "lower end" 8 series... can you read?

Meening a 7800GTX or a 7900GTX could outrun a 8600... now if you compare 7900 series to 8800, then no, the 8800 will outrun the 7900.

The OP is about an 8800GTS 320MB. It is he (and apparently you) who cannot read.

How is the performance of lower end G80 cards relevant?

In any case, how do the 7800GTX and 7900GTX count as the majority of 7 series cards?

Last edited by r2zoo (2007-07-15 21:10:04)

kachunkachunk wrote:

2142's Titan mode eats your processor for breakfast. I'm not kidding; I went through a lengthy process trying to understand what the issue was. And lo and behold, even a computer with a sub-par workstation graphics card with a fast processor outdid my other gaming system in the game due to processor power alone. And the final upgrade to a whole new gaming system sealed the deal.

It's not due to "your computer being too slow," per se. It's actually more about how the engine is limited in some ways, where the programmers can't or won't provide workarounds to stop certain things from happening, which suck up performance. A few of these would basically lie around hit detection when the Titan AA guns and deployed sentry guns are firing. People constantly pound titan shields, trying to get aircraft taking off. That slows the server down a very noticeable amount, causing some major skipping and sync issues. And your latency/lag is left unaffected.
Then the sentry guns planted in hallways. They constantly fire at targets not even reachable (beyond a wall, for instance), with each bullet striking (and canceling out) the wall. And the target beyond the wall. And all walls past that point. This adds to the issue. Hit detection in games is a programming mess, if you ask me, but it has to be server-side instead of client to help prevent eliminate cheating and to set a middle-ground for people with varying latencies/ping.

Add to the fact that the Titans are in fact moving geometry/vehicles, the programmers have to use some workarounds for that as well. There is hit detection and not necessary the standard clipping practices when it comes to game maps, so you're effectively going to rely on the server determining where you are on the busy titan. Every footstep requires some form of synchronization with the server, so with many players, it'll put server-side load through the roof, especially with all the shooting.

And this all isn't even counting the client-side stuff (graphics detail, sound, etc). As far as performance is concerned, but that's generally quite solid, actually. Perhaps better than BF2 at times, however there is a bit more stippling in the trees.
Things get problematic when the server is having issues, so the game becomes unplayable. This happens on even high-end systems.