Co77er
Member
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I'm canadian, whats this topic about? i brought the booze
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6945

piett55 wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Its not that we dont like ur country...

We feel pity towards u and ur ignorant government.
and there 300 pound women.
You know what you prick, you need to stop going down on people for their weight, what they like to eat, and where they are from. Obesity could be life threatning, so you are making fun of people who could die, but I understand you going down on people over the Internet, since over 90% of the people in the U.S. look a lot better then you do, including the obese ones. Maybe you should stop making fun of people for their bodies, and take a look at your ugly face and give some thought as you why you have to be a dick to people to make up for yourself. FUCK YOU, I HOPE YOU GET FAT JUST SO PEOPLE CAN MAKE FUN OF YOU, prick. [/endrant]
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Two_Handed_Sword/e7147b0b.gif

Well that will never happen because i Work out "Every" day and if you and other americans did then there wouldnt be a need for mcdonalds or wheel chairs.

and when you think of my looks think god like there hasnt been any one on this forum in the picture thread that is better looking then me yet and there never will.

I'm that awesome.
BladeRunner
Member
+5|7006|UK

Erkut.hv wrote:

All of you people that don't like my country can kiss my American ass.
It's not that we despise Americans...just people with your 'fuck the world attitude'. So god bless America...and FU
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6932|Canberra, AUS

dalfiuss wrote:

Many of you foreigners are attacking a country based on the posts of 12 year old nerds that will never have sex.  That demographic is an extreme minority, and simply shows your ignorance.  If you want to attack a country you need to look at the big picture.

It's also funny that Berserk_Vampire likes 'teasing the States' with McDonalds, when Canada has 0.352 McDonalds Restaurants per 10,000 people, which is the third highest country in per capita restaurants (behind New Zealand @ 0.369 and the US @ 0.433).

CO2 emissions have also been talked about here.  The US does have the highest output, but there are reasons for that:

Many people are aware that the USA is the world's largest producer of Carbon Dioxide. This is partly because it has the highest material wealth in the world, in total and on a per person basis. But it also suffers from a relatively extreme continental climate, with bitterly cold winters away from the coast and blisteringly hot summers. Much energy is used in heating and cooling buildings. Americans are also famous for their love of the automobile. Petrol (gasoline) is, by European standards, very cheap, and many American cities are widely spread out, causing inhabitants to drive long distances to work or to shop.
The National Energy Foundation
Several people have mentioned the Kyoto Protocol in regards to emissions, but none have happened to mention Australia, the second highest country in per capita co2 emissions, which also is not a ratafied party of the Kyoto Protocol.  Many of you that have mentioned it seem to lack full knowledge of how it works.  In reality, it wouldn't reduce the global co2 emissions because countries such as China and India are exempt from it.  This means that countries will outsource production that causes these gases to those unrestricted countries.  This makes no economical sense to the US.

America also has the largest GDP in the world.  The US has a GDP of nearly $13 trillion, making up more than 1/5th of the world's GDP.  This figure is one of many used to determine economic performance, and although by itself it doesn't mean that much, it does carry some weight and a comparison may help you visualize our production.  The sum of the EU (Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Denmark, Ireland, United Kingdom, Greece, Portugal, Spain, Austria, Finland, Sweden, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia) just barely edges out that of the US. Are some of you trying to tell me that the world economy wouldn't be affected by all of those countries disappearing?

I am not denying that some of what America does could be considered amoral, but most people don't look at the good that comes from it, or the countering good things America does.  We do not live in a utopia, and the good will always be offset by the bad.  I am sick of people bashing America without considering any of the problems with their own country.  America is a young nation, and is becoming more and more concious of the world view every day. 

There are days when I am not proud to be an American, where my government has taken actions I personally wouldn't agree with, but there is not much I can do.  Regardless of who you vote for, you don't have much of a say on their actual policy.  I am sick of people blaming those that voted for Bush for everything he has done in office.  That's the same as blaming every German for the actions of Hitler and the Nazi party. Worx, do you want us all to believe that you and your ancestry are personally responsable for the Holocaust?

If all of you truely want to affect change, stop bitching about things on an internet forum and take action.  Trying to change things through insults is a poor and inefficient tactic.

In the meantime, I am going to enjoy my cheesburger, car, and the exceptionally high standard of living my family and country have given me.
On the KP

1. I already said that it was kinda redundant

2. The AUS govt. won't change its stance until the US does. Simple as that.

I've been talking about Global Warming in general, but we need a better idea than Kyoto. And we need a better idea than this bullshit the US and Aus governments are pushing.

And you must remember, Bush was voted in by under 10% of Americans (according to voter turnout stats).
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|7015|MA, USA

BladeRunner wrote:

It's not that we despise Americans...just people with your 'fuck the world attitude'. So god bless America...and FU
Not all Americans feel that way.  Remember the demographic you are addressing here.  You might consider asking the age of the folks who say the most ridiculous things.

Having said that, if someone attacks my country, I'll probably defend it, that's human nature.  You will probably do the same.  It is the manner in which we defend it that seems to be problematic here.  Too often a silly accusation against the US (or any other country) is met with, "Oh yeah?  Well your country licks balls!" or something.  That just escalates the poor debate practices here.

I like to think I can draw attention to deficiencies in a country without making an ad hominem attack on that country, or disliking it at all.  I know it is possible, because when talking with other Americans I talk about our problems all the time - and I am very fond of my country.  But, because of human nature (as noted above) one has to be a little diplomatic when talking about other countries - people are sensitive when they are criticized by those the percieve to be outsiders.

Let's ignore the idiots who are posting, "Your country sucks donkey cock!" and try to elevate the level of debate here (that being said, there are some excellent posts between the idiots)
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6992|California

BladeRunner wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:

All of you people that don't like my country can kiss my American ass.
It's not that we despise Americans...just people with your 'fuck the world attitude'. So god bless America...and FU
Read other posts I made before commenting.

<sarcasm>
</sarcasm>

Dumb bastard, this post was to let all the America haters sound off. I don't have a Fuck the World attitude, I have a FUCK YOU! attitude. I hate on an individual level. I don't know enough about you to give you my gift of unbridled hatred.

That being said, cheers fuckers.
Reconvene flaming.
ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7092|Deutschland/Germany

Schutzengel wrote:

please show me where the US has purposefully targeted civilians....

That is one seriously F@#$ed up statement.
Got this from some random page.......its translated by Google so it might sound a little fucked up:
"The bombardment on Dresden belongs to the heaviest attacks on German cities during the Second World War.  At night on 14 February 1945 allied bombers destroyed the entire city center.  Innumerable humans died from the bombs, among it many refugees who had looked for protection in the undefended city.  About 60 per cent of the Dresdner city with houses and firms were destroyed.  800 British and American bombers threw about 1,500 tons of aerial mines and high-explosives bomb as well as 800,000 incendiary bombs on the defenseless city.  The attack was directed exclusively against the civilian population, outside of the city military buildings lain remained to a large extent spared against it."
Why did they do it? :  you bomb civilians -----> you weaken the troops' morale -------> you win the war
I wont argue if this is legitimate but you wanted to see an example of the US targeting civilians.

WW2 is not part of this discussion but still.............
pokerplaya
want to go heads up?
+11|6991|cairns australia

]V[Stinks_at_this wrote:

I'm from the UK and live in the US and a good place it is too, but its true there is alot of Anti US feeling, I think it just people hating what they can't have themselves.
Can someone explain why AU,JP, and some (very few) euro server say that only there own country men are allowed to play on them, and they kick anyone from out side those countrys ?
Surely this is racist? the Contract we we signed says we won't do this so how come so many Ranked servers do?
not reading 20 pages to see if any1 replied to this.one word answer= ping
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7013|United States of America
Look I am sure you can all aggree war isnt pretty.  In Japan, they wouldnt get a clue to stop fighting now would they?  So what do you do under extreme danger? Throw it straight back!  The reason america bombed those cities is make japan get a F&$#ing clue.  The nukes had to be used, to get them a F#$%ing clue!  We killed hundreds of thousands in japan, and saved millions more than if we had let them go.  Because America has done some things in war that suck, you should be glad.  Hitler would have killed off all the Jews, Japan and Hitler would have taken over the World, then you would be trying to get free the way you are now.  Bad things have to happen to make things better. Dont you think?  So, would you rather be under dicatorship (anwser yes and you are the biggest fing moron ever) or be free as you are now.
ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7092|Deutschland/Germany
If you wanted to reply to my post: That s not what I was trying to say.
If not: ignore this
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|7015|MA, USA

ArMaG3dD0n wrote:

If you wanted to reply to my post: That s not what I was trying to say.
If not: ignore this
I understand what you meant, ArMaG3dD0n.  I will grant that in WWII both sides did some pretty nasty things to civilians, but that was then; it was total, declared, war (something we don't see too much these days), and doesn't really have much bearing on the conduct of warfare today. 

The original poster (however many pages back) implied that US warmaking today was morally equivalent to the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.  I have some trouble with that myself.  If anyone is going to argue that point, I'd like to see some more modern examples.
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6945

BladeRunner wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:

All of you people that don't like my country can kiss my American ass.
It's not that we despise Americans...just people with your 'fuck the world attitude'. So god bless America...and FU
Well that and we do dispise them
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7100|Alberta, Canada

this is sooo opinionated.
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6945
Any one who isnt brain washed by American Bastardization and Mcdonalds (the grease goes to you're brain) hates them.
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|7015|MA, USA

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Any one who isnt brain washed by American Bastardization and Mcdonalds (the grease goes to you're brain) hates them.
And anyone who isn't a racist hates you.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=11037&p=1

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

What i cant stand the most besides chinks is the U.S they are just as bad as the terrorists "land of the free and brave"
And what the fuck do you have against 'chinks' asshole?

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

I also hate then as well but in some of the countries they got those sexy seductive princess type girls you just wanna bang so thats alright
The fucking closes you get will be raping your mum or jerking off under the computer table.
What do i have against chinks?


1. Canada my country its called CANADA not China so many of the damn fucking disease infested fucks running around tons of them they breed like rabbits chinese writing all over the place think they own the place.

2. So many of them hard to get jobs.

3. Spreading diseases not to mention they are dirty and very disgusting and ugly.
I'm surprised you hate the US so much Berserk_Vampire.  The KKK started here, I'm sure they have a place for you.
Jepeto87
Member
+38|6942|Dublin
lol nice 1 Whittsend!
Declaration.Day
Member
+0|6918
I think that Canadas army would kick the shit out of the US army
Schutzengel
Member
+0|6919
^^^^^^^^^

LOLLERSKATES - thanks i needed that
Schutzengel
Member
+0|6919

ArMaG3dD0n wrote:

Schutzengel wrote:

please show me where the US has purposefully targeted civilians....

That is one seriously F@#$ed up statement.
Got this from some random page.......its translated by Google so it might sound a little fucked up:
"The bombardment on Dresden belongs to the heaviest attacks on German cities during the Second World War.  At night on 14 February 1945 allied bombers destroyed the entire city center.  Innumerable humans died from the bombs, among it many refugees who had looked for protection in the undefended city.  About 60 per cent of the Dresdner city with houses and firms were destroyed.  800 British and American bombers threw about 1,500 tons of aerial mines and high-explosives bomb as well as 800,000 incendiary bombs on the defenseless city.  The attack was directed exclusively against the civilian population, outside of the city military buildings lain remained to a large extent spared against it."
Why did they do it? :  you bomb civilians -----> you weaken the troops' morale -------> you win the war
I wont argue if this is legitimate but you wanted to see an example of the US targeting civilians.

WW2 is not part of this discussion but still.............
Dresden was a railway hub and communications center, bombing it was both tactical and strategic. the reasoning and full documentation of why dresden was chosen and the way it was carried out is here ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of … the_attack

dresden was not chosen for psycological impact germany was already starting to fall quickly at this point, there was no need to cut into the morale of the german civilian population.
Schutzengel
Member
+0|6919
By the way as my name implies i speak german so you can link me to the original page if you'd like i don't need google to filter it for me
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|6945

whittsend wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Any one who isnt brain washed by American Bastardization and Mcdonalds (the grease goes to you're brain) hates them.
And anyone who isn't a racist hates you.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=11037&p=1

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

What i cant stand the most besides chinks is the U.S they are just as bad as the terrorists "land of the free and brave"
And what the fuck do you have against 'chinks' asshole?


The fucking closes you get will be raping your mum or jerking off under the computer table.
What do i have against chinks?


1. Canada my country its called CANADA not China so many of the damn fucking disease infested fucks running around tons of them they breed like rabbits chinese writing all over the place think they own the place.

2. So many of them hard to get jobs.

3. Spreading diseases not to mention they are dirty and very disgusting and ugly.
I'm surprised you hate the US so much Berserk_Vampire.  The KKK started here, I'm sure they have a place for you.
No because i hate with love.
whittsend
PV1 Joe Snuffy
+78|7015|MA, USA

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

whittsend wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Any one who isnt brain washed by American Bastardization and Mcdonalds (the grease goes to you're brain) hates them.
And anyone who isn't a racist hates you.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=11037&p=1

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

What do i have against chinks?


1. Canada my country its called CANADA not China so many of the damn fucking disease infested fucks running around tons of them they breed like rabbits chinese writing all over the place think they own the place.

2. So many of them hard to get jobs.

3. Spreading diseases not to mention they are dirty and very disgusting and ugly.
I'm surprised you hate the US so much Berserk_Vampire.  The KKK started here, I'm sure they have a place for you.
No because i hate with love.
It's still racism.  I'm actually surprised you are still here.  This, to me, is a much worse gaffe than Nitro91 made posting his cheats.  You are here posting racism.  His ethical problem is directed at a game.  Your ethical problem is directed at a fifth of the worlds population.  If I were a mod I'd have booted you for that.  I guess cheating is worse than being a racist.
Anubis
Member
+0|6948
My opinion:  Sorry guys, but i hate the most americans too! Bush should fuck himself!
I think the Americans are the stupiest people all over the world. They all kill each other with their stupid guns!
In germany you cant buy a gun that easy!
There are a lot of reasons why the americans are stupid! But my english is not the best so you can think about it by yourself!

if your an american, get your gun and kill yourself, that would be the best for us all! ;-) joking

Last edited by Anubis (2006-02-01 05:19:36)

ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7092|Deutschland/Germany

Schutzengel wrote:

Dresden was a railway hub and communications center, bombing it was both tactical and strategic. [...]
dresden was not chosen for psycological impact germany was already starting to fall quickly at this point, there was no need to cut into the morale of the german civilian population.
I dont think they only did it to destroy military targets. They used incendiary bombs against the city center too.

Quote from your link:
"The United States Strategic Bombing Survey listed at least 110 factories and industries in Dresden[62], albeit mainly in the outskirts, which were far less affected by the February 1945 raid."
I ve also read that the airport which would have been a legitimate military target wasnt targeted.....

Quote from Churchill:
"It seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing of German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed."

Churchill himself said that the bombings were in fact an instrument of terror against the German civil population and that other reasons are pretexts. I know he s British but after all the allied forces conducted the bombings together.
Search @ google for "moral bombing"......

This is starting to get a little off topic.

Last edited by ArMaG3dD0n (2006-02-01 06:21:49)

Greenie_Beazinie
Aussie Outlaw
+8|7070

whittsend wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

whittsend wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Any one who isnt brain washed by American Bastardization and Mcdonalds (the grease goes to you're brain) hates them.
And anyone who isn't a racist hates you.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=11037&p=1


I'm surprised you hate the US so much Berserk_Vampire.  The KKK started here, I'm sure they have a place for you.
No because i hate with love.
It's still racism.  I'm actually surprised you are still here.  This, to me, is a much worse gaffe than Nitro91 made posting his cheats.  You are here posting racism.  His ethical problem is directed at a game.  Your ethical problem is directed at a fifth of the worlds population.  If I were a mod I'd have booted you for that.  I guess cheating is worse than being a racist.
Didnt hear anyone complaining when Philybmaris (or whatever the fuck his name was) went on his little crusade against "ragheads" or "camel fuckers", that took up most of his posts.

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