comic_chimere
Member
+-1|6911|England, UK
I read alot of you talking about PCI-E cards. What is better about these then AGP cards? and y do u suggest adapting so you can update to PCI-E in the future?

also, how do u know what mobo's can use a pci-e card?

thanks

Last edited by comic_chimere (2006-01-17 11:36:14)

wooly-back-jack
Jihaaaaaad!!!
+84|6960|England
pci-express runs faster, thats it in a nutshell really.
Paladus902
The Last Man Standing
+1|7006
PCI-Express is the future for graphics cards now, as they will eventually phase out AGP all together.  I think the best out at the moment is PCI x17.
comic_chimere
Member
+-1|6911|England, UK
thanks for the fast replys

So how do I know if a mobo has a PCI-E slot. Most I have looked at dont

I can get one of these from a friend brand new;

ASRock K8-UPGRADE VM800

but cant find if it has pci-e. What do you people think of this mobo?


thanks again
uk.solidsnake
Member
+3|6928|England, UK
That's an AGP board. Also, VIA sucks. Stay away at all costs.
Paladus902
The Last Man Standing
+1|7006
Im not sure about that motherboard, but if you want to see some with PCI-E go to

www.ebuyer.co.uk

and have a look there in their motherboard section, click on the sidebar for whatever type you need (like what socket your processor is) and then look at the motherboards.  Most will tell you if their PCI-E.
Scorpion0x17
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+691|6986|Cambridge (UK)

comic_chimere wrote:

thanks for the fast replys

So how do I know if a mobo has a PCI-E slot. Most I have looked at dont

I can get one of these from a friend brand new;

ASRock K8-UPGRADE VM800

but cant find if it has pci-e. What do you people think of this mobo?


thanks again
1. Google
2. Enter VM800 into search box.
3. Hit Enter/click Google Search.
4. Click the first hit.
5. Read until about halfway down where it says:

Expansion Slot     
- ASRock Future CPU Port (Yellow-colored): Flexible Socket939 upgrade interface for ASRock 939CPU Board(Optional)
- 1 x AGP8X/4X slot , 1.5V
- 2 x PCI slots( PCI 2.2 compliance)
- 1x AMR slot

6. See that it does mention AGP, but it doesn't mention PCI-E.
7. Realise that it mean that it supports AGP and not PCI-E.
8. Learn from the experience how to use search facilities...

HTH...
comic_chimere
Member
+-1|6911|England, UK

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

comic_chimere wrote:

thanks for the fast replys

So how do I know if a mobo has a PCI-E slot. Most I have looked at dont

I can get one of these from a friend brand new;

ASRock K8-UPGRADE VM800

but cant find if it has pci-e. What do you people think of this mobo?


thanks again
1. Google
2. Enter VM800 into search box.
3. Hit Enter/click Google Search.
4. Click the first hit.
5. Read until about halfway down where it says:

Expansion Slot     
- ASRock Future CPU Port (Yellow-colored): Flexible Socket939 upgrade interface for ASRock 939CPU Board(Optional)
- 1 x AGP8X/4X slot , 1.5V
- 2 x PCI slots( PCI 2.2 compliance)
- 1x AMR slot

6. See that it does mention AGP, but it doesn't mention PCI-E.
7. Realise that it mean that it supports AGP and not PCI-E.
8. Learn from the experience how to use search facilities...

HTH...
mmkay
s4vior6
Save's UR @$$
+1|6966|Somewhere in NYC
the AGP slot is brown. (Mostly) and a little further to the inside than the other PCI slots.

PCIe is white(?) and longer
Viper007Bond
Moderator Emeritus
+236|7025|Portland, OR, USA

comic_chimere wrote:

I read alot of you talking about PCI-E cards. What is better about these then AGP cards? and y do u suggest adapting so you can update to PCI-E in the future?
Nothing is better about the cards themselves. Video cards have just gotten to the point where they can handle more data than AGP can handle. It's like having a Ferrari with a speed limiter of 30MPH on it.
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-101-InvaderZim
Member
+42|7064|Waikato, Aotearoa
Look at the socket....

AMD skt 939=PCI-e
Intel LGA775=PCI-e

AMD skt 754=AGP
Intel skt 478=AGP
Scorpion0x17
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+691|6986|Cambridge (UK)

-101-InvaderZim wrote:

Look at the socket....

AMD skt 939=PCI-e
Intel LGA775=PCI-e

AMD skt 754=AGP
Intel skt 478=AGP
Unfortunately, though generally true, it's not quite that simple - it is a good rule-of-thumb though...

Anyhoo, the best way to find out what any motherboard does or does not support is still called Google.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2006-01-19 07:36:56)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6992|PNW

You can sometimes find better information than Google from online stores (like newegg) and store browsers (pricescan). Some of them even have search functions that list only the devices with desired attributes. Make sure to double-check with the manufacturer site on stats, however.

If you Google up some benchmarks, you will see a significant difference between PCI-e and AGP cards...and don't fall into the trap of thinking, for instance, that all AMD S939 motherboards are PCI-e. Some still have AGP.

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