boomshagalaga
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Over time, there has always been one super-powerful nation in terms of military strength and economic prosperity. Today that country is generally considered the United States, although you cannot easily compare nations. I am unfortunate to say, but something will inevitably happen in the future. Every countries days of glory are numbered. Who do you think would be the next world power referring to the above stated terms?

I personally believe that it would be China, please discuss.
beeng
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It's going to be Nauru.
Under that tiny island lays a fortress full of futuristic battle robots!
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac … os/nr.html
boomshagalaga
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beeng wrote:

It's going to be Nauru.
Under that tiny island lays a fortress full of futuristic battle robots!
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac … os/nr.html
Well, if that would be your opinion, so be it.
chitlin
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i heard uzbekistan has some really sharp rocks .. well keep an eye on them
Orion5413
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Ty
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+2,398|6992|Noizyland

I disagree with China. It's government and economy won't be able support itself. It is widely accepted that if China were to have the same standards as say, Great Britain, we would need two extra planets to be able to cope with the pollution, resources and  accomidation of people. Sorry to say this, but the major asian countries, (excluding most south-east asian coutries,) - countries like India, China and Japan, do not know how to manage polution, or deal with resources. They over-fish, over farm, and generally pollute everything. I'd be fucking worried if china became the next world power.

I'm guessing Germany, and it won't be through war either. They're quietly working away with their German efficiancy. I wouldn't mind if Germany became the next world power. I reckon they've learned their lesson about war, and probably won't be as trigger happy, (no offence Triggerhappy,) as the US.
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Drunkaholic
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I agree with China because it holds such a f*cking huge portion of the U.S.'s national debt.  Russia has a negative population growth, so not many worries there...  I know, the MEC will own us all ;P

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H3llWeasel
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what does holding our national debt have anything to do with being a world power?
i fail to see any connection between being powerful and having a huge IOU...
north korea has gotta be up there somewhere...although i'd have to agree with Drunkaholic, watch out for MEC
B.Schuss
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+664|7058|Cologne, Germany

I don't see germany coming. We have had our share of world power and it didn't go very well. We are also way to small and don't have the military to support a claim for a legitimate superpower. We have a strong economy, but that won't be enough, as we also have quite high unemployment, and our economy is not growing much.

china is a superpower already, at least as their economy is concerned. They have mostly stayed out of the later conflicts (afghanistan, iraq, war on terror ). But sooner or later, they will engage, as soon as their security interests are threatened. But I don't know what that will take, as they are pretty much predominant in Asia already. Terrorists seem to shy away from China. So as long as no one threatens their national security, I don't see them engaging in any military action. and really, who has the power to threaten China ? No one...
So they will be moving along, quietly taking over the world economically.

North corea ? na, forget about them. rethoric, that's all. They don't have the economy to make legitimate claim.

India is a possible candidate for the future. Huge economic potential, very open society, dedicated workforce.

russia is going down, and is probably at no. 3 right now.

my personal ranking would be:

1. USA
2. China
3. Russia
4. India
5. UK / France / Germany

Pos. 4 and 5 are kinda interchangeable, as there are currently only three real superpowers. The rest has some influence, but only regionally. I believe that USA and China might change positions in the future, but that will depend largely on any possible involvement of china in an upcoming regional conflict.
mikeshw
Radioactive Glo
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In terms of political superpower, I think it will be a face off between US and China, imo. Economic superpower will likely be China in the future. As it is, they are starting to sell consumer products in the US. And with cars being made in China for the China market (think Volkswagen, and appropriately so given the name. Right, B?) It will only be a matter of time before they are technologically capable of mass making quality products. I speak from experience after having performed work in China for the past 10 years and see the quantum leaps they are making. They may not do it right or with finesse the first and second time, but they are improving.

But, religious ideologies will be the landscape of international relations, and the source of future wars, i believe. Political ideologies can be changed (think the fall of the Iron Curtain), but religious ideologies a whole lot harder. It can be fervent, and radical. Besides changing someone's religious belief is not as easy as hard selling the benefits of free economy on a repressive communist state. You have to convince one that the christian heaven is better than others, or hindu nirvana is better, etc.. It is an intangible measure with little or no hope of success.

Hence, imho, I think it is status quo for a long while more in terms of superpowers but of larger concern is the potentially bleak world religious backdrop.
Cybargs
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US is a super power... it will fall in about a few decades, but maybe not in our lifetime. china is growing too fast, thats why they slowed down their economic growth, a smart move. I hope australia would be the next super power such a nice country... but it wont happen, coz population is too low for a country that size
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2ndLt.Tucker
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+33|6900|Stillwater, Ok
I'm worried about the US.  We keep changing too much crap on how our government was originally founded. I mean fuck i bet we take "In God We Trust" off our coins soon just to appease everyone.  Were shooting our government in the head with some of the bullshit people do. Were to greedy for our own fucking good as well. I mean come on some bitch got millions sueing McDonalds cause she spilled hot coffee on her lap. Her case was they didn't tell her it was HOT.  If i was in the court room i would have dumped a whole pot of coffee on her ass....IS THIS HOT BITCH.  It sickens me as to all the law suits for bullshit.
  Ex. A robber can break into your house armed....you shoot him....he lives and can sue you. Or my new personal favorite where i have to ask wtf is this judge thinking.  Some ILLEGAL mexicans were on a farmers ranch trespassing.  The farmer pistol whipped one of em when they tried to run before Immigration could get there.  They then sue him and get his property cause the judge awarded it.  THERE ILLEGAL. SNUCK ACROSS THE BORDER AND GET FREE US LAND.  Were killing ourselves. Let me please be dead before i see the US fall.
Horseman 77
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Yea Right. There is always some nation thats going to take us down. You could make a list if you wanted to.

The only advantage that china has over the US is that they are ALL chineese.
Most American men spend a lot of time Trying to get a Cool looking woman.
The Young chineese male need only Grab the 1st woman he see's.

They all have short legs black hair and black eyes, whats the difference?
They all look the same. So he can put that time to other Better uses.

Even if they do rule the world one day... who would you rather be ?
Cybargs
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u know why china has a good economy? coz their ppl get paid slave wages
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Erkut.hv
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H3llWeasel wrote:

what does holding our national debt have anything to do with being a world power?
i fail to see any connection between being powerful and having a huge IOU...
north korea has gotta be up there somewhere...although i'd have to agree with Drunkaholic, watch out for MEC
Because China stockpiled billions of our dollars. When they release all that money into the world markets, the value of our dollar will go down. When that happens, our economy collapses. The only reason they haven't yet, is that we are trading a lot of stuff with them. We have a negative trade deficit with China, so it is in their best interest to keep our economy afloat for now.
Rosse_modest
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China.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
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+302|6953|Salt Lake City

Erkut.hv wrote:

H3llWeasel wrote:

what does holding our national debt have anything to do with being a world power?
i fail to see any connection between being powerful and having a huge IOU...
north korea has gotta be up there somewhere...although i'd have to agree with Drunkaholic, watch out for MEC
Because China stockpiled billions of our dollars. When they release all that money into the world markets, the value of our dollar will go down. When that happens, our economy collapses. The only reason they haven't yet, is that we are trading a lot of stuff with them. We have a negative trade deficit with China, so it is in their best interest to keep our economy afloat for now.
He's obviously not taken any economics classes and fails to understand how our financing of our national debt through foreign countries could topple our economy.
dragon102
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Nwo!!!!!
Erkut.hv
Member
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Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:

H3llWeasel wrote:

what does holding our national debt have anything to do with being a world power?
i fail to see any connection between being powerful and having a huge IOU...
north korea has gotta be up there somewhere...although i'd have to agree with Drunkaholic, watch out for MEC
Because China stockpiled billions of our dollars. When they release all that money into the world markets, the value of our dollar will go down. When that happens, our economy collapses. The only reason they haven't yet, is that we are trading a lot of stuff with them. We have a negative trade deficit with China, so it is in their best interest to keep our economy afloat for now.
He's obviously not taken any economics classes and fails to understand how our financing of our national debt through foreign countries could topple our economy.
You are correct sir. I pretty much copy and pasted from memory something I heard. I really don't care who the next superpower is.

If you could explain though, that would be great.
Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
+368|6911|San Francisco

Horseman 77 wrote:

Yea Right. There is always some nation thats going to take us down. You could make a list if you wanted to.

The only advantage that china has over the US is that they are ALL chineese.
Most American men spend a lot of time Trying to get a Cool looking woman.
The Young chineese male need only Grab the 1st woman he see's.

They all have short legs black hair and black eyes, whats the difference?
They all look the same. So he can put that time to other Better uses.

Even if they do rule the world one day... who would you rather be ?
That is the most bigoted and thick-headed comment I've ever had the displeasure of reading.  Yet, reading your other posts, I don't expect much more from you.  Jesus fucking christ...thanks for setting yourself and your kind back 200 years.  It's this type of back-asswards thinking that'll ruin us in the coming years.
Hero764
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What do you mean by who would you rather be Horseman 77? Choice between Americans or Chinese?

Last edited by Hero764 (2006-01-17 15:51:20)

Horseman 77
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Marconius wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

Yea Right. There is always some nation thats going to take us down. You could make a list if you wanted to.

The only advantage that china has over the US is that they are ALL chineese.
Most American men spend a lot of time Trying to get a Cool looking woman.
The Young chineese male need only Grab the 1st woman he see's.

They all have short legs black hair and black eyes, whats the difference?
They all look the same. So he can put that time to other Better uses.

Even if they do rule the world one day... who would you rather be ?
That is the most bigoted and thick-headed comment I've ever had the displeasure of reading.  Yet, reading your other posts, I don't expect much more from you.  Jesus fucking christ...thanks for setting yourself and your kind back 200 years.  It's this type of back-asswards thinking that'll ruin us in the coming years.
Oh they dont look a like ? Fill us in please and send me the photos of the cute blonde ones too.

a tad to dense to smell a jest me thinks matey !  Arrr !
Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
+368|6911|San Francisco

Horseman 77 wrote:

Marconius wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

Yea Right. There is always some nation thats going to take us down. You could make a list if you wanted to.

The only advantage that china has over the US is that they are ALL chineese.
Most American men spend a lot of time Trying to get a Cool looking woman.
The Young chineese male need only Grab the 1st woman he see's.

They all have short legs black hair and black eyes, whats the difference?
They all look the same. So he can put that time to other Better uses.

Even if they do rule the world one day... who would you rather be ?
That is the most bigoted and thick-headed comment I've ever had the displeasure of reading.  Yet, reading your other posts, I don't expect much more from you.  Jesus fucking christ...thanks for setting yourself and your kind back 200 years.  It's this type of back-asswards thinking that'll ruin us in the coming years.
Oh they dont look a like ? Fill us in please and send me the photos of the cute blonde ones too.

a tad to dense to smell a jest me thinks matey !  Arrr !
I'm completely astounded that you can use a computer...let alone breathe and type at the same time.
It's the Debate and Serious Talk thread, dude, not the bigoted "haven't passed 3rd grade yet" jackass thread.  Submit something worthwhile or get the fuck out of dodge.
Horseman 77
Banned
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" Im compltely astounded that you can use a computor"

Something tells me you are easy to astound.

" This is Serious Debate "

I know Serious Debates like " Ann Coulter Sux " Very serious indeed. Ooh Haa !

I realize now I committed a major Faux pas' by saying something as edgy as

" All Chinese Girls have Dark eyes and Black hair ".

I realize now all the Big Nations check in with BF2 Forums, to get  the International pulse as it were.
I could have started who knows what with such unbridled speech?

Further ..When you pass third Grade,  you will stop using Child like phrases like

" Haven't passed third grade yet " " jackass thread. " " Submit something worthwhile or get the fuck out of dodge."

I hate to say this But.. you picked a nice safe place to talk tuff,
I bet that was no accident either.

Also...... lighten up All my friends are chinese ( their all named ALEX  Too,  hmm.. ? )
I have worked at the Chinese  PRC Embassy and they love me there, So I think I got a handle on it. ( Allthough I never know what to do when they Hug me? )

If your still all pissed look for me in BF2 and knife me, Thats cold !

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