Cali hangs out with hawaii noob. And Alaska can come to.US_JackHammer wrote:
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Lets bomb all these fuckers, then cali can go hang with cuba...
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Nuke the middle east?
| Yes! | 20% | 20% - 36 | ||||
| No! | 26% | 26% - 48 | ||||
| Whatevaaah! | 0% | 0% - 1 | ||||
| I dont give a damn! | 3% | 3% - 6 | ||||
| bomb the chinks! | 1% | 1% - 3 | ||||
| Bomb the freakkin USA! | 21% | 21% - 39 | ||||
| Nuke 'em kinky Europeans! | 2% | 2% - 5 | ||||
| I want nukes in BF2! | 23% | 23% - 42 | ||||
| Total: 180 | ||||||
I agree. Anyone have jock itch creme?B.Schuss wrote:
this is getting out of hand. Remember, this was supposed to be the "debate and serious talk" thread...
I am sorry, I failed to google that one....wth are you talking about ?Erkut.hv wrote:
I agree. Anyone have jock itch creme?B.Schuss wrote:
this is getting out of hand. Remember, this was supposed to be the "debate and serious talk" thread...
Absolutely nothing of relevance.B.Schuss wrote:
I am sorry, I failed to google that one....wth are you talking about ?Erkut.hv wrote:
I agree. Anyone have jock itch creme?B.Schuss wrote:
this is getting out of hand. Remember, this was supposed to be the "debate and serious talk" thread...
I've said in another thread that I didn't begin to learn about Islam until September 11th 2001. When I was attacked (many years before 911), I just thought it was a racial thing.B.Schuss wrote:
oh please. you admit having been a victim of muslim violence. this most likely was the motivation for you to learn about the Qu'ran in the first place. And you still claim to be non-biased about it ?xanthpi wrote:
...I cannot have an opinion about Islam since I've gone to great lengths to learn about it without bias.
Yeah that's hilarious. That's quite a brain you've got there.mafia996630 wrote:
lolol this xanthpi person is posting on this topic, lolol .
i am xanthpi, i hate muslims, and i also like quoteing out of context. i also hate islam, and want to spend all of my life trying to persuade other ppl to hate islam. i have a big head. PLEASE JOIN ME AND HATE ISLAM, PLEASE.
LOLOLOLOL
Of course they haven't. They just heard from the BBC/ New York Times/ Guardian/ a politician/ etc, that Islam is a religion of peace and they think that being politically correct is being actually correct. How wrong could they be.FeloniousMonk wrote:
those of you arguing with xanthpi....have ANY of you ever read the quran?
Mafia996630 has an Islamic background (we established this in another thread) although I doubt he is a real Muslim (playing BF2 is probably haram and definitely at least makruh - Imams think that computer games were invented by infidels to take Muslims minds away from Allah).mafia996630 wrote:
WOT! WOOOOOOT! ??
yea i have read it, i knw xanthpi didnt, he probz read parts and made up his mind.
Then why wasn't it closed at:B.Schuss wrote:
this is getting out of hand. Remember, this was supposed to be the "debate and serious talk" thread...
That's hardly an opening for proper debate and serious discussion is it?Terrorists are all from the middle east. They all want us dead. They will kill us. Should we bomb them back to the stoneage ?
If Sh1fty2k5's question is meant to be serious then it's failed, if it's meant to take the piss (and I can only hope it is frankly, because if that's an attempt to start serious conversations on a touchy subject then you need to learn a little more tact Sh1fty2k5 - no offence meant ) then it shouldn't be in Debate & Serious Talk in the first place should it?
Threads shouldn't be locked. If idiots post in them then let the world know that they are idiots.RhadamanthysSCC wrote:
Then why wasn't it closed at:B.Schuss wrote:
this is getting out of hand. Remember, this was supposed to be the "debate and serious talk" thread...That's hardly an opening for proper debate and serious discussion is it?Terrorists are all from the middle east. They all want us dead. They will kill us. Should we bomb them back to the stoneage ?
If Sh1fty2k5's question is meant to be serious then it's failed, if it's meant to take the piss (and I can only hope it is frankly, because if that's an attempt to start serious conversations on a touchy subject then you need to learn a little more tact Sh1fty2k5 - no offence meant ) then it shouldn't be in Debate & Serious Talk in the first place should it?
Y'see, now I'd argue that some threads do need to be locked/closed/deleted.moved/moderated.
Why? Because in a forum such as this (i.e. Debate and Serious Talk) there should be some sort of standard, decided upon by the forum owner(s) and imposed by the forum moderator(s) for the simple reason that debate & serious discussion by their very natures require a level of maturity that is sadly lacking in many topics (and posts) in this forum - IMNSHO that is If a topic fails to meet those minimum criteria then it should either be moved to another forum, one where serious discussion and debate are not expected, or closed/appropriately moderated.
Personally I don't think that's an unreasonable stance on this issue - care to debate it seriously?
Why? Because in a forum such as this (i.e. Debate and Serious Talk) there should be some sort of standard, decided upon by the forum owner(s) and imposed by the forum moderator(s) for the simple reason that debate & serious discussion by their very natures require a level of maturity that is sadly lacking in many topics (and posts) in this forum - IMNSHO that is If a topic fails to meet those minimum criteria then it should either be moved to another forum, one where serious discussion and debate are not expected, or closed/appropriately moderated.
Personally I don't think that's an unreasonable stance on this issue - care to debate it seriously?
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There is no solution to the problem of Islam which would suit everyone.
And since our politicians are not willing to stand up to the threat which faces us all, we must just sit tight and wait until there is some new mega-terror attack.
And when New York or London or Madrid or Rome is destroyed or made uninhabitable, we can all once again talk about how we brought this on ourselves, about how if only we had been more sensitive to the Muslims and appeased them more then maybe we wouldn't have been attacked, about how Islam is surely a religion of peace and only Christianity is capable of such violence, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
And then another city will be destroyed and we will sit and talk again and again until one day someone of strength says "enough is enough" and will fight back. And because the problem had not been tackled earlier, the price to pay will be exponentially higher. It always is. A problem allowed to fester is a problem multiplied.
And until then people like me will try and educate others about the nature of our enemy and we will be called racists and bigots but we will be proved right again and again. And on it will go. And on and on and on.
And since our politicians are not willing to stand up to the threat which faces us all, we must just sit tight and wait until there is some new mega-terror attack.
And when New York or London or Madrid or Rome is destroyed or made uninhabitable, we can all once again talk about how we brought this on ourselves, about how if only we had been more sensitive to the Muslims and appeased them more then maybe we wouldn't have been attacked, about how Islam is surely a religion of peace and only Christianity is capable of such violence, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
And then another city will be destroyed and we will sit and talk again and again until one day someone of strength says "enough is enough" and will fight back. And because the problem had not been tackled earlier, the price to pay will be exponentially higher. It always is. A problem allowed to fester is a problem multiplied.
And until then people like me will try and educate others about the nature of our enemy and we will be called racists and bigots but we will be proved right again and again. And on it will go. And on and on and on.
Bible thumper. Go watch the 700 Club some more and bring us back some more fun "facts." Then boast about your self-proclaimed superiority some more.xanthpi wrote:
There is no solution to the problem of Islam which would suit everyone.
And since our politicians are not willing to stand up to the threat which faces us all, we must just sit tight and wait until there is some new mega-terror attack.
And when New York or London or Madrid or Rome is destroyed or made uninhabitable, we can all once again talk about how we brought this on ourselves, about how if only we had been more sensitive to the Muslims and appeased them more then maybe we wouldn't have been attacked, about how Islam is surely a religion of peace and only Christianity is capable of such violence, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
And then another city will be destroyed and we will sit and talk again and again until one day someone of strength says "enough is enough" and will fight back. And because the problem had not been tackled earlier, the price to pay will be exponentially higher. It always is. A problem allowed to fester is a problem multiplied.
And until then people like me will try and educate others about the nature of our enemy and we will be called racists and bigots but we will be proved right again and again. And on it will go. And on and on and on.
I'll boast about my own superiority over you right now.Ikarti wrote:
Bible thumper. Go watch the 700 Club some more and bring us back some more fun "facts." Then boast about your self-proclaimed superiority some more.xanthpi wrote:
There is no solution to the problem of Islam which would suit everyone.
And since our politicians are not willing to stand up to the threat which faces us all, we must just sit tight and wait until there is some new mega-terror attack.
And when New York or London or Madrid or Rome is destroyed or made uninhabitable, we can all once again talk about how we brought this on ourselves, about how if only we had been more sensitive to the Muslims and appeased them more then maybe we wouldn't have been attacked, about how Islam is surely a religion of peace and only Christianity is capable of such violence, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
And then another city will be destroyed and we will sit and talk again and again until one day someone of strength says "enough is enough" and will fight back. And because the problem had not been tackled earlier, the price to pay will be exponentially higher. It always is. A problem allowed to fester is a problem multiplied.
And until then people like me will try and educate others about the nature of our enemy and we will be called racists and bigots but we will be proved right again and again. And on it will go. And on and on and on.
And I'm not even a Christian. Back to school for you my lad/ girl.
Here's a fun fact for you that you asked for - in Arabic, the words for black and slave are the same (abd).
Here's another - Muhammad used to refer to black people as "raisin heads".
Islam - the Religion of Peace and Tolerance (TM).
Well you're still failing. You've proved nothing. I'm aware of the black/slave thing, but which do you suppose was the original? Black or slave?
Raisin heads? Yeah, i'd like to see the works cited on that.
Fine, I'm wrong on you being a Christian. You come across as a right wing christian wack job very well. I'm not going to change your views on any of this, but big deal. You can't do a damn thing about Islam but whine on the internet about it.
So boast on, dumbass.
Raisin heads? Yeah, i'd like to see the works cited on that.
Fine, I'm wrong on you being a Christian. You come across as a right wing christian wack job very well. I'm not going to change your views on any of this, but big deal. You can't do a damn thing about Islam but whine on the internet about it.
So boast on, dumbass.
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Or educate others on the misconceptions they have about the religion.Ikarti wrote:
You can't do a damn thing about Islam but whine on the internet about it.
Islam is not " The Problem "xanthpi wrote:
There is no solution to the problem of Islam which would suit everyone.
And since our politicians are not willing to stand up to the threat which faces us all, we must just sit tight and wait until there is some new mega-terror attack.
And when New York or London or Madrid or Rome is destroyed or made uninhabitable, we can all once again talk about how we brought this on ourselves, about how if only we had been more sensitive to the Muslims and appeased them more then maybe we wouldn't have been attacked, about how Islam is surely a religion of peace and only Christianity is capable of such violence, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
And then another city will be destroyed and we will sit and talk again and again until one day someone of strength says "enough is enough" and will fight back. And because the problem had not been tackled earlier, the price to pay will be exponentially higher. It always is. A problem allowed to fester is a problem multiplied.
And until then people like me will try and educate others about the nature of our enemy and we will be called racists and bigots but we will be proved right again and again. And on it will go. And on and on and on.
Northern Europeans whole live Uninvited in Palaistine are the Problem.
Give the Arabs their land back and it will stop on a dime.
( These people had a tuff time in WWII, You can give up your land of 6000 odd years and go live in the desert )
We did that to the " Noble American Indians " and they seemed pretty pissed off about it too.
What the diference between getting captured by the " Noble American Indians "
And the Terrorist?
Well.. when you are captured by a terrorist, you pray they don't kill you.
when you were captured by " Noble American Indians " you prayed that they DID kill you.
I've proved everything you don't want me to prove. And you know itIkarti wrote:
Well you're still failing. You've proved nothing. I'm aware of the black/slave thing, but which do you suppose was the original? Black or slave?
Raisin heads? Yeah, i'd like to see the works cited on that.
Fine, I'm wrong on you being a Christian. You come across as a right wing christian wack job very well. I'm not going to change your views on any of this, but big deal. You can't do a damn thing about Islam but whine on the internet about it.
So boast on, dumbass.
Raisin heads: Volume 1, Book 11, Number 664
We've already established that it is.Horseman 77 wrote:
Islam is not " The Problem ".
No they are not. They are part of the solution.Horseman 77 wrote:
Northern Europeans whole live Uninvited in Palaistine are the Problem..
How ignorant. Should we also give back Spain then? Once any land is owned by Muslims it remains Muslim property forever. Someone so knowledgeable of Islam as yourself should know that.Horseman 77 wrote:
Give the Arabs their land back and it will stop on a dime..
Should Pakistan and Afghanistan be given back to India? Should Saudi Arabia be given back to the Pagans, Jews and Christians?
You obviously know nothing of "Palestinian" history.Horseman 77 wrote:
( These people had a tuff time in WWII, You can give up your land of 6000 odd years and go live in the desert ).
And the Romans, Vikings, Normans and god knows who else did it to my people, but I am not pissed off.Horseman 77 wrote:
We did that to the " Noble American Indians " and they seemed pretty pissed off about it too..
What the hell have Native Americans to do with our discussion of Islam?Horseman 77 wrote:
What the diference between getting captured by the " Noble American Indians ".
And the Terrorist?
Well.. when you are captured by a terrorist, you pray they don't kill you.
when you were captured by " Noble American Indians " you prayed that they DID kill you.
Shhhhhhh! Don't use logic and reason. His head will spin around then explode.FeloniousMonk wrote:
Or educate others on the misconceptions they have about the religion.
xanthpi
Britain " Gave " Their Possession ( Palestine ) to WWII War Refugees from France Russia Germany ETC. In 1947 not 900 AD. Many people are still alive who remeber the event and lived there before that happened. Its not like it was 1200 years ago, or something that archeologist just discovered.
Before that many Religions lived there in harmony.
" What the hell have Native Americans to do with our discussion of Islam? "
The piont you could't grasp or chose to ignore is People, Any people React violently to aggression, Even good people. Very few walk into Captivity as timid as lambs without a fight. Although it does happen.
" Choose your own examples "
PS you picked a really safe place to call people names. I bet that was no accident.
Doesn't make your case either.
Britain " Gave " Their Possession ( Palestine ) to WWII War Refugees from France Russia Germany ETC. In 1947 not 900 AD. Many people are still alive who remeber the event and lived there before that happened. Its not like it was 1200 years ago, or something that archeologist just discovered.
Before that many Religions lived there in harmony.
" What the hell have Native Americans to do with our discussion of Islam? "
The piont you could't grasp or chose to ignore is People, Any people React violently to aggression, Even good people. Very few walk into Captivity as timid as lambs without a fight. Although it does happen.
" Choose your own examples "
PS you picked a really safe place to call people names. I bet that was no accident.
Doesn't make your case either.
As for the Arabs-it is a very good religion, and I think that the problem is corruption of the Koran. I have a muslim stepdad, and he is a very good person.
Step 1-smart guy wants power/"high" of power
Step 2-Realizes that there are thousands of young Muslims who are raging at misfortune, and who are willing to give their lives for Islam
Step 3-brainwashes those youths
Step 4-sends them to bomb/shoot up someplace
Step 5-enjoys feeling of power
Step 6-either death via some means, or Delta force is knocking on the door.
As for Isreal/Palestine-if the US stopped sending aid to Isreal and left them to do their own thing, the Arabs would recapture the glories of so many years when they got their asses solidly kicked. The Arab countries were at the prime of their power at the Independence war, and Isreal at its trough, and now that the Arab countries have less firepower and Isreal is becoming more and more self-dependent, they don't need any help kicking Arab asses a couple dozen times.
CreepingDeath, YAAFM! If you don't know, that is short for You Are A Fucking Moron (gotten from a site). As for us killing innocents, we HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT purposely target civillians. Any, any civillian casualties are either unavoidable collateral damage or an intelligence screwup. Smart bombs are only as smart as the guys who launch them, anyways. If we are told a building is an enemy command center, and it turns out to be a hospital or something, there is no way that the smart bomb can avoid that. Also, some Fing terrorist might get the bright idea of doing just that and blaming the Americans. Terrorists of all sorts.
As for the methods that Isreal uses on Palestinians and comparing it to LA riots... the LA rioters never strapped bombs to themselves and blew up, they never fired rockets indiscriminately into Isreali territory, and they did not as a whole wish to drive an entire people and nation into the sea.
As for Bush's invasion of Iraq-we have done good over there, and although we probably did it on lousy intelligence, it may just have been a determination on the part of the government and the WMDs an excuse (sorta like Panama). For the oil... you test the limits of YAAFM. We import very little of our oil from there. THERE IS A REASON SADDAM INVADED KUWAIT! Iraq by itself is oil-poor. The majority is domestic, south American (I forget exactly which country), from the Gulf, and from Saudi Arabia.
As for bombing anywhere-the only place we should have nukes is in reserve (for possible asteroid/alien blasting and to keep anyone else from getting ideas) and in BF2. Nuke the enemy uncap base at the beginning and suddenly Mr. Commander's score goes up a billion.
Step 1-smart guy wants power/"high" of power
Step 2-Realizes that there are thousands of young Muslims who are raging at misfortune, and who are willing to give their lives for Islam
Step 3-brainwashes those youths
Step 4-sends them to bomb/shoot up someplace
Step 5-enjoys feeling of power
Step 6-either death via some means, or Delta force is knocking on the door.
As for Isreal/Palestine-if the US stopped sending aid to Isreal and left them to do their own thing, the Arabs would recapture the glories of so many years when they got their asses solidly kicked. The Arab countries were at the prime of their power at the Independence war, and Isreal at its trough, and now that the Arab countries have less firepower and Isreal is becoming more and more self-dependent, they don't need any help kicking Arab asses a couple dozen times.
CreepingDeath, YAAFM! If you don't know, that is short for You Are A Fucking Moron (gotten from a site). As for us killing innocents, we HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT purposely target civillians. Any, any civillian casualties are either unavoidable collateral damage or an intelligence screwup. Smart bombs are only as smart as the guys who launch them, anyways. If we are told a building is an enemy command center, and it turns out to be a hospital or something, there is no way that the smart bomb can avoid that. Also, some Fing terrorist might get the bright idea of doing just that and blaming the Americans. Terrorists of all sorts.
As for the methods that Isreal uses on Palestinians and comparing it to LA riots... the LA rioters never strapped bombs to themselves and blew up, they never fired rockets indiscriminately into Isreali territory, and they did not as a whole wish to drive an entire people and nation into the sea.
As for Bush's invasion of Iraq-we have done good over there, and although we probably did it on lousy intelligence, it may just have been a determination on the part of the government and the WMDs an excuse (sorta like Panama). For the oil... you test the limits of YAAFM. We import very little of our oil from there. THERE IS A REASON SADDAM INVADED KUWAIT! Iraq by itself is oil-poor. The majority is domestic, south American (I forget exactly which country), from the Gulf, and from Saudi Arabia.
As for bombing anywhere-the only place we should have nukes is in reserve (for possible asteroid/alien blasting and to keep anyone else from getting ideas) and in BF2. Nuke the enemy uncap base at the beginning and suddenly Mr. Commander's score goes up a billion.
You lost me at the End.starman7 wrote:
As for the Arabs-it is a very good religion, and I think that the problem is corruption of the Koran. I have a muslim stepdad, and he is a very good person.
Step 1-smart guy wants power/"high" of power
Step 2-Realizes that there are thousands of young Muslims who are raging at misfortune, and who are willing to give their lives for Islam
Step 3-brainwashes those youths
Step 4-sends them to bomb/shoot up someplace
Step 5-enjoys feeling of power
Step 6-either death via some means, or Delta force is knocking on the door.
As for Isreal/Palestine-if the US stopped sending aid to Isreal and left them to do their own thing, the Arabs would recapture the glories of so many years when they got their asses solidly kicked. .
( Yes Now that The USA made them a Power, If The USA had put that kind of money and Millitary Aid into
( any other Country in the World. Then THEY would be kicking ASS and
( Israel would be dimmunitive at Best.
As for the methods that Isreal uses on Palestinians and comparing it to LA riots... the LA rioters never strapped bombs to themselves and blew up,
(
( They never had to.
(
they never fired rockets indiscriminately into Isreali territory,
(
( Are you kidding Israel uses Apache Gunships ( where did they get those ? ) for police work.
( Talk about indiscriminate.
(
and they did not as a whole wish to drive an entire people and nation into the sea.
(
( I think if they left or had never came that would do it for them
(
As for Bush's invasion of Iraq-we have done good over there, and although we probably did it on lousy intelligence,
(
( Intel was good, we are only finding things out about WWII intel now.. history will bear him out,
(
it may just have been a determination on the part of the government and the WMDs an excuse (sorta like Panama). For the oil... you test the limits of YAAFM. We import very little of our oil from there. THERE IS A REASON SADDAM INVADED KUWAIT! Iraq by itself is oil-poor. The majority is domestic, south American (I forget exactly which country), from the Gulf, and from Saudi Arabia.
As for bombing anywhere-the only place we should have nukes is in reserve (for possible asteroid/alien blasting and to keep anyone else from getting ideas) and in BF2. Nuke the enemy uncap base at the beginning and suddenly Mr. Commander's score goes up a billion.
He's being ironic, and since irony is evil... LET's NUKE HIM!
Haven't proved shit, sorry, but hey, your logic on the "Islam Problem" excuses the Holocaust as well. Those Jews threatening the well being of the Germans? Same thing.xanthpi wrote:
I've proved everything you don't want me to prove. And you know itIkarti wrote:
Well you're still failing. You've proved nothing. I'm aware of the black/slave thing, but which do you suppose was the original? Black or slave?
Raisin heads? Yeah, i'd like to see the works cited on that.
Fine, I'm wrong on you being a Christian. You come across as a right wing christian wack job very well. I'm not going to change your views on any of this, but big deal. You can't do a damn thing about Islam but whine on the internet about it.
So boast on, dumbass.
Raisin heads: Volume 1, Book 11, Number 664
Have fun on your crusade.