Poll

Who was responsible for the death of Jesus?

The Romans15%15% - 24
The Jews25%25% - 40
Himself16%16% - 26
Other12%12% - 20
Go Fuck Yourself29%29% - 47
Total: 157
Vampira_NB
Trying is the first step to failing
+76|6903|Canada Eh?
How so? Science just keeps telling me that all the stories in your bible are fictitious or giving scientific explanations to how some of the fantastic events may have happened. I was a church going catholic up until a few years ago when too many things just did not add up. The plausibility of a deity just doesn't make sense to me, You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want, Neither one of us can force the other to change his mind.... Anywho, humans don't live that long so we'll all find out in say 60 years?
JaMDuDe
Member
+69|7006
Whats "all the stories in your bible" mean? I can think of two that science has shown unlikely to happen(flood and the long day). Id probably be an atheist to if i were raised catholic. Putting "holy water" on my head, praying to mary, and asking a child molester for forgiveness would look like traditions made by people. Your right, we will all find out soon
CrazeD
Member
+368|6902|Maine

CameronPoe wrote:

People - the bible is not a reliable historical document. It was written with a political agenda in mind (Emperor Constantines). Josephus was a historian of the time and documents found at Nag Hammadi and Qumran are more reliable than the new testament.
Old post, but, the Bible is the most accurate historical document ever found. If you ever cared to read it, you would know this.

Last edited by CrazeD (2006-07-02 16:29:24)

TheSoprano
Tony Cipriani
+32|6743|Woodbridge, Ontario
Go Fuck Yourself
CrazeD
Member
+368|6902|Maine

JaMDuDe wrote:

Whats "all the stories in your bible" mean? I can think of two that science has shown unlikely to happen(flood and the long day). Id probably be an atheist to if i were raised catholic. Putting "holy water" on my head, praying to mary, and asking a child molester for forgiveness would look like traditions made by people. Your right, we will all find out soon
Catholics...I won't get into Catholics...

Let's just say, their practice isn't Biblically correct.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7000|PNW

As the story goes, Jesus didn't have to die. He could've left the area, but he chose to stay and kick the bucket.
spastic bullet
would like to know if you are on crack
+77|6770|vancouver

CrazeD wrote:

JaMDuDe wrote:

Whats "all the stories in your bible" mean? I can think of two that science has shown unlikely to happen(flood and the long day). Id probably be an atheist to if i were raised catholic. Putting "holy water" on my head, praying to mary, and asking a child molester for forgiveness would look like traditions made by people. Your right, we will all find out soon
Catholics...I won't get into Catholics...

Let's just say, their practice isn't Biblically correct.
Lolz, "biblically correct".  Aren't catholics the original christians?
CrazeD
Member
+368|6902|Maine

spastic bullet wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

JaMDuDe wrote:

Whats "all the stories in your bible" mean? I can think of two that science has shown unlikely to happen(flood and the long day). Id probably be an atheist to if i were raised catholic. Putting "holy water" on my head, praying to mary, and asking a child molester for forgiveness would look like traditions made by people. Your right, we will all find out soon
Catholics...I won't get into Catholics...

Let's just say, their practice isn't Biblically correct.
Lolz, "biblically correct".  Aren't catholics the original christians?
Umm...no.
Nehby
Member
+1|6906

CrazeD wrote:

spastic bullet wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Catholics...I won't get into Catholics...

Let's just say, their practice isn't Biblically correct.
Lolz, "biblically correct".  Aren't catholics the original christians?
Umm...no.
Actually that's a yes, if you look at it a vast majority of all Christian denominations branch out from the original church in Rome, which is the Catholic Church. Protestants broke from the Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox split from the Catholic Church

JaMDuDe, saying all priests are child molesters is unjust profiling. It would be like me saying that all government officials take bribes and the such.


Now on the topic of this thread, Jesus had to die inorder for him to complete his mission here of Earth, so He is to blame for His own death. (Though a few high priests were a tad too happy to kill him)

Last edited by Nehby (2006-07-03 01:05:02)

CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6784

CrazeD wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

People - the bible is not a reliable historical document. It was written with a political agenda in mind (Emperor Constantines). Josephus was a historian of the time and documents found at Nag Hammadi and Qumran are more reliable than the new testament.
Old post, but, the Bible is the most accurate historical document ever found. If you ever cared to read it, you would know this.
That is a rather laughable statement. I can't believe you just stated that the bible was the most accurate historical document ever found. OMG.

PS THe Roman Catholic Church is THE original chruch. All other churchs are just bastardisations of the original Constantine-influenced form of christianity. I'm not defending catholicism or promoting it, cos I'm a hardcore atheist, but I'd just like to set the record straight.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-07-03 03:28:08)

JimmyBotswana
Member
+82|6814|Montreal
I put other. It wasn't the "jews" who killed him, as this implies all the jewish people wanted him dead. It was the pharisees, the high jewish priests who wanted him dead because he was a threat to their wealth and power. True, they were jewish, but it is inaccurate to simply say "it was the jews" as this implies all jews had something to do with it. And in case you're wondering, no I am not jewish, and yes I am a history major.

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