Good chest day tonight
any good excercises for calf and thigh muscles?
squats and deadlifts.belldawg wrote:
any good excercises for calf and thigh muscles?
and calf extensions.
My legs have now increased in diameter by like 2-3 inches from just squating, started deadlifting last week because my back is really starting to struggle with how much im squating, even though that isn't all that much.
My legs have now increased in diameter by like 2-3 inches from just squating, started deadlifting last week because my back is really starting to struggle with how much im squating, even though that isn't all that much.
deadlifts are awesome, are you doing tradtional deadlifts?Vilham wrote:
and calf extensions.
My legs have now increased in diameter by like 2-3 inches from just squating, started deadlifting last week because my back is really starting to struggle with how much im squating, even though that isn't all that much.
I love the feeling of fucked legs the next day.SonderKommando wrote:
baggs wrote:
I really enjoy leg days, odd.Lrn2comprehendmuch? I said I like training legs, but hate the days afterward.. I hate the days leading up to leg day because i hurt so bad afterwards. But nothing beats strapping a couple hundred pounds to your back and powering it up from the ground.Zim wrote:
Same.
Is there any advantage of doing Chest & Biceps on the same day as opposed to Chest and Triceps?
I thought you had to do opposite muscle groups, but then the program my gym made me has me doing Chest & Biceps.
I can see the advantage of either way, does it matter that much?
I thought you had to do opposite muscle groups, but then the program my gym made me has me doing Chest & Biceps.
I can see the advantage of either way, does it matter that much?
Are you crazy? You NEVER EVER EVER do Chest and Triceps on the same day....PrivateVendetta wrote:
Is there any advantage of doing Chest & Biceps on the same day as opposed to Chest and Triceps?
I thought you had to do opposite muscle groups, but then the program my gym made me has me doing Chest & Biceps.
I can see the advantage of either way, does it matter that much?
You're working the same muscle set and you basically fuck up your chest workout if you do triceps on the same day, and vice versa if you start with chest and end with triceps.
Who told you to do that? That's probably the worst combination workout you can have in a day.
Chest and Biceps is fine, though.
Right. That's what someone told me when I started earlier this year, then I really started working out (the correct way) when I joined the gym at the airport here with a program.
It was never triceps then chest, always bigger muscle groups first
It was never triceps then chest, always bigger muscle groups first
It's just a very very bad combination, as it tires out the same muscle group yet you're trying to work out different ones.
There should be at least a day break between triceps and chest.
There should be at least a day break between triceps and chest.
Is there any benefit in doing extra exercises on a different muscle group after a day on another program? Just doing the extra ones till you are tired rather than to a program?
That's very bad as well, simply because your muscles only grow when you rest them.PrivateVendetta wrote:
Is there any benefit in doing extra exercises on a different muscle group after a day on another program? Just doing the extra ones till you are tired rather than to a program?
Keep to your exact program and don't try and add in 30 minutes of biceps in the evening if you think you can, it's not gonna work.
Okie dokie.
Off to do Legs and Shoulders now i think. laters
Off to do Legs and Shoulders now i think. laters
jesus, its not that bad.Zimmer wrote:
Are you crazy? You NEVER EVER EVER do Chest and Triceps on the same day....PrivateVendetta wrote:
Is there any advantage of doing Chest & Biceps on the same day as opposed to Chest and Triceps?
I thought you had to do opposite muscle groups, but then the program my gym made me has me doing Chest & Biceps.
I can see the advantage of either way, does it matter that much?
You're working the same muscle set and you basically fuck up your chest workout if you do triceps on the same day, and vice versa if you start with chest and end with triceps.
Who told you to do that? That's probably the worst combination workout you can have in a day.
Chest and Biceps is fine, though.
honestly, you dont know what youre talking about. i do Chest, Shoulders, & Triceps usually at the end of my workout cycle. its all about changing up the routine and keeping your muscles guessing.
edit: also, if you're going to respond, respond with a reputable source please. because i doubt you know everything
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Oh, and you do? lol. Please, if you're going to come back with a stupid comment like that, then at least have reason to.HaiBai wrote:
jesus, its not that bad.
honestly, you dont know what youre talking about. i do Chest, Shoulders, & Triceps usually at the end of my workout cycle. its all about changing up the routine and keeping your muscles guessing.
edit: also, if you're going to respond, respond with a reputable source please. because i doubt you know everything
People say different things, people workout differently, but I've never done that combination simply because your triceps/chest are fried after doing a chest/triceps workout beforehand. It helps mixing it up, of course it does, but when your muscles are utterly destroyed from a good chest workout, the best thing you can do is let them rest, not try and work out your triceps more.
You're right, mixing up your exercise cycle is very important, but that doesn't mean you have to exhaust your muscles on one workout.
I can't remember my source for it, and honestly, what other guy in this thread has posted sources? I can confidently say that my advice is pretty damn spot on, and people can back me up on that on these forums.
Don't get all itchy about a comment I made.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source … 7b1c79523eZimmer wrote:
Oh, and you do? lol. Please, if you're going to come back with a stupid comment like that, then at least have reason to.HaiBai wrote:
jesus, its not that bad.
honestly, you dont know what youre talking about. i do Chest, Shoulders, & Triceps usually at the end of my workout cycle. its all about changing up the routine and keeping your muscles guessing.
edit: also, if you're going to respond, respond with a reputable source please. because i doubt you know everything
People say different things, people workout differently, but I've never done that combination simply because your triceps/chest are fried after doing a chest/triceps workout beforehand. It helps mixing it up, of course it does, but when your muscles are utterly destroyed from a good chest workout, the best thing you can do is let them rest, not try and work out your triceps more.
You're right, mixing up your exercise cycle is very important, but that doesn't mean you have to exhaust your muscles on one workout.
I can't remember my source for it, and honestly, what other guy in this thread has posted sources? I can confidently say that my advice is pretty damn spot on, and people can back me up on that on these forums.
Don't get all itchy about a comment I made.
it seems like its recommended. hmm
edit: also, what do you mean i should have a reason? you stated that working out chest and triceps on the same day is bad for like it was a fact, not an opinion. my reason is that you're wrong. if its your opinion, say that. you should reread what you posted:
Zimmerman wrote:
Are you crazy? You NEVER EVER EVER do Chest and Triceps on the same day....
You're working the same muscle set and you basically fuck up your chest workout if you do triceps on the same day, and vice versa if you start with chest and end with triceps.
Who told you to do that? That's probably the worst combination workout you can have in a day.
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side with Zim especially when you're training heavy. It pays dividends to have fresh tri's for heavy benching.
I agree with Zim and Sonder, if you are lifting for results, you never do chest and triceps on the same day.
If you are more 'recreational' then do what ever the fuck you want.
If you are more 'recreational' then do what ever the fuck you want.
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@HaiBai
@HaiBai
So...how effective is a resistance band as a substitute for a pullup bar?
I'm too financially fucked right now to afford a bar.
I'm too financially fucked right now to afford a bar.
Click on the link that I posted. facepalm\Zimmer wrote:
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@HaiBai
wow you googled, i can see you have spent many an hour in the gym.HaiBai wrote:
Click on the link that I posted. facepalm\Zimmer wrote:
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@HaiBai
i wonder what people did at the gym before google came along, i imagine they just stared at the weights wondering what to do.
Iron Gym from JML should do the trick and is dirt cheap. Find that.DefCon-17 wrote:
So...how effective is a resistance band as a substitute for a pullup bar?
I'm too financially fucked right now to afford a bar.
Resistance band is very good as well.
its not like any of you guys are pro bodybuilders, you obviously don't know what you're talking about if almost everyone on a bodybuilding forum says working them out on the same day is good...baggs wrote:
wow you googled, i can see you have spent many an hour in the gym.HaiBai wrote:
Click on the link that I posted. facepalm\Zimmer wrote:
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@HaiBai
i wonder what people did at the gym before google came along, i imagine they just stared at the weights wondering what to do.
It is very ok! Doing push and pull exercises on the same day will limit injuries and joint overtraining in the long run. A added bebefit is that the nutrient and oxygen filled blood that you send to your muscles when training stays in the upper arm region for a added pump and performance. You can even try to do shoulders first then biceps and than triceps for a super pump. Arnorld did his training like this for years and i have bean doing so for 8 years now- injury free. Also try to to chest and back together for your one of your other split days for a total upper body pump! Start with chest and then go to your back training. Do legs only on your third split day.
Always to your exercises slow and controlled and never use momentum! Eat BIG rest BIG lift BIG and you will gain!
By the way- all that nonsense of working triceps on your chest day because triceps are involved will only limit your performance with triceps training. You can activate more fibres with fresh triceps and heavier weights with strict form than with somewhat tired triceps after chest training with lighter weights and sloppier form. Don't worry about overtraining your triceps if you bench one day and then train triceps the next day it won't happen- After all the purpose of chest training is traing your chest not your triceps.Don't trian for more than five days a week- then you'll over train.
Good luck and work hard
I have been doing natural bodybuilding for 8 years with huge gains because of proper training- you can trust my answer!
Leg Day, stoked to improve my ATG squat