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2006-11-12 08:59:11
turkeybacon
Member
+50|6673|Dragon Valley
I'm working on a first video now and trying to learn these new tools. I recorded about 1.5 hours of fraps and got a bunch of 4GB movies (wtf!!). So I used VirtualDub, went through those, trimmed the good parts and resaved them, now I have a few movies that are about 1.5GB and 90 seconds long. In virtualdub I saved these as old avi source (fraps). Now I want to compress my movies, and I downloaded the DivX codec and I'm messing around with it. Using a quality of "3" I got a 1.5GB movie down to 30MB. I'm testing a better one at higher quality (7, multipass) and it should be about 60MB.

Is the divx codec pretty standard? If I use this to compress my movies, will this work for average people with VLC player and/or windows media player? I was also thinking about trying xvid, I'm basically wondering which is a better codec to use.
2006-11-12 10:13:12
CrazeD
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+368|6900|Maine
I'd say Xvid is more common, but the view has to have the codec regardless.
2006-11-12 10:18:51
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6848|Mhz

Xvid is better and more common I'd go with that.
2006-11-12 10:36:16
turkeybacon
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+50|6673|Dragon Valley
OK I'm going with xvid, thanks.

Another question (dont want to make a new thread)

Now that I have my smaller, encoded files, can I ditch the original fraps source? I trimmed 20GB (60-80mins) of FRAPS footage into ~150MB (5-10mins) of xvid encoded footage. Obviously I want to ditch the 20GB and repeat the process until I have alot of good footage. I'm not sure which editing program I will use yet, right now I'm just trying to get alot of cool stuff on camera before I worry about that. So basically, I have my xvid encoded stuff, I can directly edit this in video software right? I'm thinking i might use windows video editor, but I'm not sure yet.
2006-11-12 10:39:15
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6848|Mhz

Always best to keep hold of the originals in case of the dreaded almighty fuck up that will inevitably occur the instant you delete anything you "think" you wont need. I don't do video editing all my stuff is images but the same theory applies, keep your original files til you've got the completed thing as you want it then start tidying up.
2006-11-12 10:44:37
turkeybacon
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+50|6673|Dragon Valley

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Always best to keep hold of the originals in case of the dreaded almighty fuck up that will inevitably occur the instant you delete anything you "think" you wont need. I don't do video editing all my stuff is images but the same theory applies, keep your original files til you've got the completed thing as you want it then start tidying up.
Yeah thats what I'm thinking, its just SOOO much stuff to backup lol.



Heres what I did:

- recorded fraps for about an hour on a long dragon valley map
- fraps saved about 5 files, each 4GB
- i opened each file, one by one in VirtualDub
- i went through all the boring parts, made selections on those parts, and deleted them, leaving the decent footage
- i saved these stripped videos in the same format (now about 1.5GB per file)
- i encoded these stripped videos with XviD, now they are about 30MB per file

I want to repeat this process for a while, maybe a few weeks and then I should have enough to make a few good vids. I think I will zip and burn the big files to DVD just in case, but if someone can tell me whether this is pointless, it would be much appreciated. I dont have the hard disk space to keep these files (or I would have kept playing), and burning dvds takes time lol. And I dont have that many dvd's, and my burner is flaky as hell.
2006-11-12 10:46:22
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7057|Denver colorado
Divx was known for containing spyware. Just get xvid.

But apparently that was a while back and a few updates too.

Last edited by lavadisk (2006-11-12 10:47:05)

2006-11-12 10:50:25
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6848|Mhz

The spyware (Gator if i remember right) was in the free version of the full player and encoder pack, they dont do it for free anymore (tired of people complaining about the spyware i guess). So you either get the player for free with codecs and thats that or you pay for it and get the video encoder too.

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@Turkeybacon

Well theres no use keeping the really huge files if theyre mostly footage you dont need, so just backup the trimmed down files. Thats what I'd do anyway.
2006-11-12 11:06:08
turkeybacon
Member
+50|6673|Dragon Valley
Yeah divx wanted to install google toolbar and google desktop, I had the option of clicking "no" though, which I did.

The huge files are basically the stripped original sources, they are still 1.5GB each and are saved as "raw" fraps footage. I took the 4GB ones, stripped the crap, resaved (unencoded) as 1.5GB files, then trimmed those to 30MB xvid files. So I still have 5+ gigabytes of fraps footage (5 videos), and I have those exact same 5 videos encoded as xvid files and they only take up 150MB lol. I think I'll delete them, because I cant do SHIT on my computer when stuff is burning. Also i looked at the adobe premiere website, and they say they can edit just about any filetype so I should be OK. I hope...lol.

Edit: I decided NOT to delete the FRAPS footage (for now). I am rar'ing and burning to DVD my old sources, just in case. But if somebody could tell me if I'm wasting my time, it would be appreciated. I'm like 90% sure I'm wasting my time....just want to be safe though.

Another frustrating thing -- winrar can break big files into volumes (1.4MB floppy, 100MB tape drive, 700MB cd), so you can burn 1 huge file onto a bunch of CD's. WHY DOESN'T IT GIVE YOU THIS OPTION FOR DVD SIZED FILES??? Arghh....

Last edited by turkeybacon (2006-11-12 11:25:06)

2006-11-12 14:43:20
Chico75
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