riz
Member
+0|6771
Well now the public will be able to recognise these people as pedo's, people will be having a go at them and when in public, if someone recognises them they might get bashed up or something, hopefully.

Last edited by riz (2006-07-18 04:33:49)

Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

riz wrote:

Well now the public will be able to recognise these people as pedo's, people will be having a go at them and when in public, if someone recognises them they might get bashed up or something, hopefully.
Punishment for any crime should be handled by the state (if they are in fact criminals - that is, if they're not all just talk but actually engage in kiddy sex and/or own kiddy sex related material). If citizens would go vigilante this will lead to all out chaos and eventually people will start slaughtering each other for next to no reason.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6778|Southeastern USA
and how many times has a dutch person flamed a thread on US politics?
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
+3,135|6967|The Hague, Netherlands

kr@cker wrote:

and how many times has a dutch person flamed a thread on US politics?
what has that got to do with this, if you wanna flame go ahead, if i care about that pedophile party, NO, nobody will vote on them anyway except retards,
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delta4bravo*nl*
Dutch Delight
+68|6981
Its bad, it should be banned.
Whats next ex murderer political party?
MECtallica
Member
+73|6733|jalalabad
Oh man , next theyll legalize necrophilia.
ImmortalTechnique
Banned
+33|6751

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

stryyker wrote:

i blame canada. Why? because they have no real power in the world

*lol
i actually lawled on that
you're stupid cybrg ninja you dont contribute anything... you jsut psot mundane cookie cutter responses, go think for yourself you mindless drone.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7070|Cologne, Germany

hm, looks like the serious debate is going well here....

what I don't understand is how the judge could allow some group to form a political party when one of its future goals is to legalize sex with minors, i.e. something that is against the law right now.

But I am not familiar with the inner workings of the dutch legal system, so I really don't know. Maybe one of the dutch members can enlighten us.
I am pretty sure though that they won't get many votes, and I am certain that those who openly admit to being party members will be in trouble in their communities. I don't think any responsible parents would want those people in their communities.
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
+3,135|6967|The Hague, Netherlands

B.Schuss wrote:

hm, looks like the serious debate is going well here....

what I don't understand is how the judge could allow some group to form a political party when one of its future goals is to legalize sex with minors, i.e. something that is against the law right now.

But I am not familiar with the inner workings of the dutch legal system, so I really don't know. Maybe one of the dutch members can enlighten us.
I am pretty sure though that they won't get many votes, and I am certain that those who openly admit to being party members will be in trouble in their communities. I don't think any responsible parents would want those people in their communities.
Our legal system, sucks monkey balls, thats why they aloud it, i hope the people are smart enough not to vote on them
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Masta_Daco
Member
+39|6966|Amsterdam,The Netherlands
lol i hope so cuase else those pedo's will be camping outside the basicschool's
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

MECtallica wrote:

Oh man , next theyll legalize necrophilia.
They haven't legalized anything. There's a number of steps that go into legalizing something. First you need to have a political party, then you have to get voted into office (which I don't see happening anywhere until mankind's extinction a couple of years from now) and then you have to find a majority in the government (which won't happen because mankind will be extinct before this party will ever make it into office). The first step is by far the easiest, ANY group of people/morons can start up the most ridiculous political parties (such as a party devoted to spending all the nation's resources on the construction of the Disfunctional Translucent Rainbow Displacer meant to transport all kittens to Saturn's planetary rings in under 0.23 seconds). And that's what this is, it's a ridiculous political party, which is completely impotent. I don't understand why you're all making such a fuss about it then? I mean pedophiles are everywhere. They are known to exist. Every1 knows what they want. But all of a sudden they band together and say what they want (which every1 knows) and panic breaks out???

The court merely decided that there was nothing illegal in a bunch of pedophiles starting up a political party. There is no evidence of these people engaging in illegal activities at this time and if it was proven in the past that they did, then logically they have already served their appointed punishments dealt out by the courts at the time. These punishments have been served. The courts did not take away their rights as citizens as punishment so yes, it is perfectly legal for them to start up a party, and perhaps even illegal to deny them from doing so.

Last edited by Rosse_modest (2006-07-19 03:48:57)

Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

B.Schuss wrote:

what I don't understand is how the judge could allow some group to form a political party when one of its future goals is to legalize sex with minors, i.e. something that is against the law right now.
Laws can be changed at any time if you find a majority to support the change. This party's goal is to try and add/change a law once they get elected. There is nothing illegal about that. Imagine a democracy where nobody would be able to change any of the existing laws???????? It would defeat the purpose of electing a government in the first place?

That would be fun. Kind of like taking off with a Boeing passenger plane, switch to autopilot once you've made some altitude and then never switch autopilot off again, hoping you have an infinite supply of fuel on board and you don't fly into anything.

Last edited by Rosse_modest (2006-07-19 04:52:45)

Cactusfist
Pusher of sausages Down Hallways
+26|6797
Why base a p[olitical party on something illegal? It makes no sense. If one of the requirements for this party is "YOU MUST HAVE  RUMPED A KIDDIE UP THE SHITTER" then surely theyd all be investigated?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790
Whilst I don't agree with the party, I have to say, I don't get why the judge should have found them guilty/banned the party.  UN Child Rights isn't binding, IIRC.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6945

Cactusfist wrote:

Why base a p[olitical party on something illegal? It makes no sense. If one of the requirements for this party is "YOU MUST HAVE  RUMPED A KIDDIE UP THE SHITTER" then surely theyd all be investigated?
thats why they want to legalize it... by damn holland has too much freedom
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Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

Cactusfist wrote:

Why base a p[olitical party on something illegal? It makes no sense. If one of the requirements for this party is "YOU MUST HAVE  RUMPED A KIDDIE UP THE SHITTER" then surely theyd all be investigated?
Read my above post. Laws can be changed at any time. What is illegal one day can be made legal the next and vice versa. In any free democracy.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Cactusfist wrote:

Why base a p[olitical party on something illegal? It makes no sense. If one of the requirements for this party is "YOU MUST HAVE  RUMPED A KIDDIE UP THE SHITTER" then surely theyd all be investigated?
thats why they want to legalize it... by damn holland has too much freedom
Well it's supposed to be a FREE democracy. If they wouldn't allow such a party to form it wouldn't be a democracy. It would mean that part of the citizenry is silenced in its views and wishes, which would be a violation of the basic rule that every1 can be heard.
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
+160|6914|Hell's prison
Touch my daughter and see how quickly their reality becomes a fucking nightmare!
Cactusfist
Pusher of sausages Down Hallways
+26|6797

Rosse_modest wrote:

Cactusfist wrote:

Why base a p[olitical party on something illegal? It makes no sense. If one of the requirements for this party is "YOU MUST HAVE  RUMPED A KIDDIE UP THE SHITTER" then surely theyd all be investigated?
Read my above post. Laws can be changed at any time. What is illegal one day can be made legal the next and vice versa. In any free democracy.
Indeed, but at the time of founding paedophilia was still illegal, and still is to my knowledge. Also, i don't think the attitude to paedophiles will change with the law, so these people are branding themselves pariahs by assossiation
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

Cactusfist wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:

Cactusfist wrote:

Why base a p[olitical party on something illegal? It makes no sense. If one of the requirements for this party is "YOU MUST HAVE  RUMPED A KIDDIE UP THE SHITTER" then surely theyd all be investigated?
Read my above post. Laws can be changed at any time. What is illegal one day can be made legal the next and vice versa. In any free democracy.
Indeed, but at the time of founding paedophilia was still illegal, and still is to my knowledge. Also, i don't think the attitude to paedophiles will change with the law, so these people are branding themselves pariahs by assossiation
Attitude change with the law? The radical change in law they are proposing requires a number of other parties to agree with them in order to pass it, and I don't see how these parties would do that unless the general population is either for the law change, or has a neutral stance toward it. Supporting these pedophiles when adult sex with 12 year olds is disapproved of by the general population would be political suicide. So IF the law would be changed, it means the attitude toward pedophilia has already changed before the change in law.

And indeed, pedophilia is illegal, but as mentioned before these people haven't been proven to be doing anything illegal which they haven't been punished for already. Their views are morally questionable, but not illegal.
BF2Craglyeye
Member
+72|6902|Australia
This is the same sort of argument bought about with unionising prostitution, granting them  benefits so as to be helped gain "better" working conditions. (note the inverted commas)

But just because you all of a sudden you may have these benefits... do you really want people to know that you are a prostitute.

Same applies here.....
Yeah they creating a party, but who would admit to being apart of  such a "pathetically, atrocious" band of criminals.

You register as a member of this party you better well, have bars on the doors and windows.

Last edited by BF2Craglyeye (2006-07-19 05:22:02)

BF2Craglyeye
Member
+72|6902|Australia

Rosse_modest wrote:

And indeed, pedophilia is illegal, but as mentioned before these people haven't been proven to be doing anything illegal which they haven't been punished for already. Their views are morally questionable, but not illegal.
Now that is a valid point, but why else would people want something decriminalised if not to exploit it.
Cactusfist
Pusher of sausages Down Hallways
+26|6797

Rosse_modest wrote:

Cactusfist wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:


Read my above post. Laws can be changed at any time. What is illegal one day can be made legal the next and vice versa. In any free democracy.
Indeed, but at the time of founding paedophilia was still illegal, and still is to my knowledge. Also, i don't think the attitude to paedophiles will change with the law, so these people are branding themselves pariahs by assossiation
Attitude change with the law? The radical change in law they are proposing requires a number of other parties to agree with them in order to pass it, and I don't see how these parties would do that unless the general population is either for the law change, or has a neutral stance toward it. Supporting these pedophiles when adult sex with 12 year olds is disapproved of by the general population would be political suicide. So IF the law would be changed, it means the attitude toward pedophilia has already changed before the change in law.

And indeed, pedophilia is illegal, but as mentioned before these people haven't been proven to be doing anything illegal which they haven't been punished for already. Their views are morally questionable, but not illegal.
Good show. But i still think they shouldnt have formed
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790

BF2Craglyeye wrote:

Now that is a valid point, but why else would people want something decriminalised if not to exploit it.
Your point?  If it's not illegal, then it doesn't matter.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

Cactusfist wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:

Cactusfist wrote:


Indeed, but at the time of founding paedophilia was still illegal, and still is to my knowledge. Also, i don't think the attitude to paedophiles will change with the law, so these people are branding themselves pariahs by assossiation
Attitude change with the law? The radical change in law they are proposing requires a number of other parties to agree with them in order to pass it, and I don't see how these parties would do that unless the general population is either for the law change, or has a neutral stance toward it. Supporting these pedophiles when adult sex with 12 year olds is disapproved of by the general population would be political suicide. So IF the law would be changed, it means the attitude toward pedophilia has already changed before the change in law.

And indeed, pedophilia is illegal, but as mentioned before these people haven't been proven to be doing anything illegal which they haven't been punished for already. Their views are morally questionable, but not illegal.
Good show. But i still think they shouldnt have formed
Neither do I but then again that is their right. Like I have the right to fire up a party bent on promoting penguin domination over our planet. I was just tryin to inform every1 here saying this party should be banned that banning them is even worse than it existing because it means you're creating a precedent to kill your own freedom and rights. Banning parties with questionable views leads to the Dark Side, my young padawans. If you go down that path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Or something like that.

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