cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
What has Isreal every tried??

You really need to get your facts straight.  In the '50's Ariel Sharon massacred people without provocation.  Qibya comes to mind:

As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed.

The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians -- about half of them women and children -- were killed.

There was also Dar Yassin where Ariel Sharon and his troops murdered over 350 people, mostly women and children.

Since the 1950's Israel has been the single largest aggressor, stealing, murdering and displacing people to gain land.  Ariel Sharon was at the forefront of this movement and today is known as a criminal for Crimes Against Humanity.

I have no more sympathy for Israel, the holocaust was bad and wrong, but Israel has elevated itself to the same position as Nazi Germany IMO.  When I say Israel is the country with most sanctions/resolutions against it by UN, I am not exaggerating:

UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992
1. Resolution 106: "... 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "... 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation""
13. Resolution 259: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN  resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon'
31. Resolution 444: "...'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians" 39. Resolution 471: "... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "... 'reiterates' that Israel's claims to Jerusalem are 'null and void'"
41. Resolution 478: "...'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'"
42. Resolution 484: "...'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops" 55. Resolution 605: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
 
The following are the resolutions vetoed by the United States during the period of September, 1972, to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council criticism:
1. ....condemned Israel's attack against Southern against southern Lebanon and Syria..."
2. ....affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections..."
3. ...condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians..."
4. ....called for self-determination of Palestinian people..."
5. ....deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations..."
6. ....affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people..."
7. ....endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people..."
8. ....demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights..."
9. ....condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations..."
10. ....condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem..."
11. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon..."
12. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut..."
14. ....urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon..."
15. ....condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace..."
16. ....deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal..."
17. ....condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression...."
18. ....denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories..."
19. ....deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon..."
20. ....deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites..."
21. ....condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane..."
22. ....deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon..."
23. ....called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations..."
24. ....urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices..."
25. ....condemned Israel's... incursion into Lebanon..."
26. ....deplored Israel's... commando raids on Lebanon..."
27. ....deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians..."
28. ....deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians..."
29. ....demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada..."
30. ...called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands..."-

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Stolen from HM1 from another post
topthrill05
Member
+125|6807|Rochester NY USA
I'm out of this discussion. I really don't know enough to make a valid point against yours.

Although I stand by the fact that there is more to it.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
Well top the bottom line is this.  Right now at this very instance we need our president to stand up and call for a cease fire for the region, and have a chance for deplomacy. Like maybe if Isreal stoped killing civilians and fucking up the infastructor Lebonan will let them fight a ground battle against the terrorist group. Allegedly Lebanon doesn't want them in there country either and is too weak to remove them.
[1stSSF]=Nuka=
Banned
+23|6979|PDX Metro Area, OR, US, SOL
cpt.fass1,

You listing of the UN resolutions is an interesting tale. It misses the point that all of Israel's neighbors have been sanctioned as well...and cumulatively, you'll find that the neighbors have been sanctioned MORE than Israel, but since it's Israel against all comers, it's easy to hide this fact behind such a list.

Next point...you clearly got that list from somewhere else. How do I know this? The list has decent grammar and spelling, which your independent posts lack.

Hezbollah is both a legitamate political party and a terrorist organization, just like Hamas. Both have expressed a primary purpose of wiping Israel from the face of the planet. Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon and followed UN resolutions, even whilst Hezbollah has attacked them repeatedly. This time, Hezbollah went too far and Israel responded in kind.

BOTH sides of this argument are wrong. BOTH sides have committed attrocities, including attempted genocide. There is no clean side in this battle except the OUTSIDE.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
As you can see I posted at the bottom stolen from an other post. So very observant you are. hahaha.

So Nuka list the sanctions from Israel's neighbors at least bring proof with your claims.

Ok and the whole reason for this post is why hasn't bush called for a cease fire? It has gotten out of control over there and I don't think our president calling for cease fire would be a bad diplomatic move.

I've heard time and again Isreals reasons for this is to remove Hezbollah from Lebonan and that Lebonan with thank them for it.
KnowMeByTrailOfDead
Jackass of all Trades
+62|6910|Dayton, Ohio
Other countries calling for a cease fire is pointless.  That is the job of the UN.  Let the UN call for a Cease fire and try to work things out.   If bush does it directly he will only bring more criticism upon himself.  What has the US had to say during the security Council meetings?  If the US has supported an talk of a cease fire during the UN meetings than that is enough.  We do not need a order from Bush to say that we do not support fighting in other countries.  Let the UN try (fail).  The only thing bush can really do is threaten Isreal and that is not going to do a damn bit of good.  And Hesbolla could care less what we have to say.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|6965|Salt Lake City

BlokieBF2 wrote:

for once I think the worlds higher powers (US, Britain etc) should stay the hell away from this, let them fight it out amongst themselves and for once and all be done with the issue
If the US steps in they will only piss off one of the combatants and in so doing cause more ill will towards themselves
The problem is that we are indirectly involved already.  We supply Israel with with billions of dollars and weapons.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
Ok we are definatly involved with this region one way or an other. We are trying to create Capitolist nations over there. We are a major backer of Isreal and the main problem with not voicing a cease fire against Isreal and Hallaboze is we lose creditablity of our real intent of being in Iraq.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6811|SE London

[1stSSF]=Nuka= wrote:

You listing of the UN resolutions is an interesting tale. It misses the point that all of Israel's neighbors have been sanctioned as well...and cumulatively, you'll find that the neighbors have been sanctioned MORE than Israel, but since it's Israel against all comers, it's easy to hide this fact behind such a list.
Untrue, Israel has more UN sanctions against it than Syria, Lebannon, Jordan, Palestine and Egypt combined - true also if you add Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia into the equation. They are one of the three states (along with India and Pakistan - but somehow I'm not nearly so worried by them not signing it) not to sign the nuclear non proliferation treaty (North Korea's a sort of grey area, since they signed it, then withdrew - then signed it again).

[1stSSF]=Nuka= wrote:

BOTH sides of this argument are wrong. BOTH sides have committed attrocities, including attempted genocide. There is no clean side in this battle except the OUTSIDE.
Now that is true - but Israel as the larger (theoretically) more responsible state, should take responsibility for sorting this mess out peacefully. Not provoking the Arab states, as they have done for many, many years - check out the UN resolutions condemning the Israeli military parades for example.

The kill ratio I've heard (this is unverified) is 18 Palestinians per Israeli - so perhaps Israel should be held 18x more responsible for the situation. Also, their policy of aggressive expansion and the building of border wall (which is not on their border but way beyond it cutting many Palestinians off from the places of work) have served to piss the Palestinians (as well as the other Arab states) off and have caused the hatred which has led to the majority of the terrorist attacks.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6830|132 and Bush

topthrill05 wrote:

Sadly if Israel doesn't stop, there is going to be alot of tears.
The tears have always been there. They were there when those piece of shit Hezbozo's lobbed missles into Isreal to re-ignite this.

What would your country do if your neighbor had terrorist shooting missle's into your country and started abducting it's soldiers? Lebannon certainly didn't do anything to stop them despite UN resolution 1559.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
Sorry it was soldiers first, then isreal retaliated, the hezballa started
BEE_Grim_Reaper
Member
+15|6936|Germany
Hm.... even if I am being extremely sarcastic here, inflicting the need of flaming by third parties against me... I have the urge to quote some of those always prevalent nuke-happy guys: "Nuke them all".... Best would be to nuke the whole middle east.... Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Jordania, Israel, Kuwait and all the rest of em... nuke 'em till the area is a solid area of glass.... that way, it will REALLY stabilize the whole region... no more petty wars whatsoever.... ok... the oil will glow in the dark afterwards... but look on the bright side (literally).... You just have to put the gasoline tubes through the headlights of you SUV and you won't ever need new bulbs in there...
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
Now when they say that, do they even mean Isreal?
collector_sco
Member
+1|6785|scotland

Cpt.fass1 wrote:

Sorry it was soldiers first, then isreal retaliated, the hezballa started
Was it not israel who fired first when they bombed that beach killing that little girls family it was all over the news.I was a big fan of israel until this conflict.Now im not so sure killing hezbola is one thing killing innocent people is another.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
Hmmm Not sure if it was, then it was Israel, then soldiers, the israel, then hezbola.
chippy1978
Member
+0|6807|new brunswick
The only reason is that  this conflict is still on the go is because it is taking away from the real isues that are going on with the G8 summit. Not that they aren't being discuss there, bet they arn't being discuss "here" and on other forms of media. It may be that the leaders of the free world have decided that this is the issue to "agree" on and force the media to cover the conflict here instead of the issues that they origionally went to Russia to debate
Andy_McNab
Member
+2|6750
Because the US is run by Jews effectively.  Big Business runs the US and the Government and most of it is in Jewish hands ("Steinberg" CEO, lol) Notice how America's allies agree that niether Isreal, Hezbollah or Hamas are right but the US' position is that israel are in the right and the others are branded "terrorists"?  I find it strange that when Hezbollah fire rockets they're terrorists but when Israel do it they are defending themselves???????
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6778|Southeastern USA

[1stSSF]=Nuka= wrote:

cpt.fass1,

You listing of the UN resolutions is an interesting tale. It misses the point that all of Israel's neighbors have been sanctioned as well...and cumulatively, you'll find that the neighbors have been sanctioned MORE than Israel, but since it's Israel against all comers, it's easy to hide this fact behind such a list.

Next point...you clearly got that list from somewhere else. How do I know this? The list has decent grammar and spelling, which your independent posts lack.

Hezbollah is both a legitamate political party and a terrorist organization, just like Hamas. Both have expressed a primary purpose of wiping Israel from the face of the planet. Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon and followed UN resolutions, even whilst Hezbollah has attacked them repeatedly. This time, Hezbollah went too far and Israel responded in kind.

BOTH sides of this argument are wrong. BOTH sides have committed attrocities, including attempted genocide. There is no clean side in this battle except the OUTSIDE.
you're absolutely right, lebanon alone has been under UN mandate for years to root out Hezbollah and quit allowing them to operate out of their country, and Hamas and Hezbollah have been shown repeatedly that they are being funded by Iran and Syria, but this amounts to nothing more than proof of the UN's impotence, how many times over the past week have you heard mention of the several thousand UN troops currently stationed on Lebanon's southern border to enforce security over the past few years? Didn't think so, cuz if the press reported on it it would be an admission of the UN's inability to get shit done.


Bertster7 wrote:

Untrue, Israel has more UN sanctions against it than Syria, Lebannon, Jordan, Palestine and Egypt combined - true also if you add Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia into the equation.
You'll find  that most of these resolutions were telling israel to stop defending itself, why should they follow them if they just allow the murderers to run free and kill again, how many lives would have been saved had Israel not released Arafat and his top brass when they captured them in Beirut the first time (1982 was it?) after being asked to by, guess who, the UN?



big fucking whoop, Bush said "shit", if anything it means I like him more, while we're on the subject
No, I didn't see anything inappropriate about his conversation with the blind reporter, he insulted him in no way, as opposed to this guy, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/910614.stm , again, just makes me like him (Bush) more, a NYT reporter no less.

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-07-17 20:34:45)

Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6817|Allentown, PA, USA

Andy_McNab wrote:

Because the US is run by Jews effectively.  Big Business runs the US and the Government and most of it is in Jewish hands ("Steinberg" CEO, lol) Notice how America's allies agree that niether Isreal, Hezbollah or Hamas are right but the US' position is that israel are in the right and the others are branded "terrorists"?  I find it strange that when Hezbollah fire rockets they're terrorists but when Israel do it they are defending themselves???????
That is probably one of the most racist and untrue things Ive ever read. Good job dumbass. BTW, Im not religious even though Im registered catholic.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ

kr@cker wrote:

[1stSSF]=Nuka= wrote:

cpt.fass1,

You listing of the UN resolutions is an interesting tale. It misses the point that all of Israel's neighbors have been sanctioned as well...and cumulatively, you'll find that the neighbors have been sanctioned MORE than Israel, but since it's Israel against all comers, it's easy to hide this fact behind such a list.

Next point...you clearly got that list from somewhere else. How do I know this? The list has decent grammar and spelling, which your independent posts lack.

Hezbollah is both a legitamate political party and a terrorist organization, just like Hamas. Both have expressed a primary purpose of wiping Israel from the face of the planet. Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon and followed UN resolutions, even whilst Hezbollah has attacked them repeatedly. This time, Hezbollah went too far and Israel responded in kind.

BOTH sides of this argument are wrong. BOTH sides have committed attrocities, including attempted genocide. There is no clean side in this battle except the OUTSIDE.
you're absolutely right, lebanon alone has been under UN mandate for years to root out Hezbollah and quit allowing them to operate out of their country, and Hamas and Hezbollah have been shown repeatedly that they are being funded by Iran and Syria, but this amounts to nothing more than proof of the UN's impotence, how many times over the past week have you heard mention of the several thousand UN troops currently stationed on Lebanon's southern border to enforce security over the past few years? Didn't think so, cuz if the press reported on it it would be an admission of the UN's inability to get shit done.


Bertster7 wrote:

Untrue, Israel has more UN sanctions against it than Syria, Lebannon, Jordan, Palestine and Egypt combined - true also if you add Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia into the equation.
You'll find  that most of these resolutions were telling israel to stop defending itself, why should they follow them if they just allow the murderers to run free and kill again, how many lives would have been saved had Israel not released Arafat and his top brass when they captured them in Beirut the first time (1982 was it?) after being asked to by, guess who, the UN?



big fucking whoop, Bush said "shit", if anything it means I like him more, while we're on the subject
No, I didn't see anything inappropriate about his conversation with the blind reporter, he insulted him in no way, as opposed to this guy, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/910614.stm , again, just makes me like him (Bush) more, a NYT reporter no less.
OK so sorce it... that's it

and on the press thing he was making fun of someone who was blind because he was wearing sunglasses I'm sure if someone in your family was blind and someone started making fun of them for wearing sunglasses you'd get pissed and make them apoligize. Freaking get some sense people make mistake you just have to own up sometimes and say sorry, to not say your sorry DOES MAKE YOU LESS OF A MAN.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6758|Global Command

cpt.fass1 wrote:

UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992
1. Resolution 106: "... 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "... 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation""
13. Resolution 259: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN  resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon'
31. Resolution 444: "...'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians" 39. Resolution 471: "... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "... 'reiterates' that Israel's claims to Jerusalem are 'null and void'"
41. Resolution 478: "...'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'"
42. Resolution 484: "...'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops" 55. Resolution 605: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
 
The following are the resolutions vetoed by the United States during the period of September, 1972, to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council criticism:
1. ....condemned Israel's attack against Southern against southern Lebanon and Syria..."
2. ....affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections..."
3. ...condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians..."
4. ....called for self-determination of Palestinian people..."
5. ....deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations..."
6. ....affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people..."
7. ....endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people..."
8. ....demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights..."
9. ....condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations..."
10. ....condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem..."
11. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon..."
12. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut..."
14. ....urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon..."
15. ....condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace..."
16. ....deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal..."
17. ....condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression...."
18. ....denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories..."
19. ....deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon..."
20. ....deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites..."
21. ....condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane..."
22. ....deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon..."
23. ....called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations..."
24. ....urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices..."
25. ....condemned Israel's... incursion into Lebanon..."
26. ....deplored Israel's... commando raids on Lebanon..."
27. ....deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians..."
28. ....deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians..."
29. ....demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada..."
30. ...called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands..."-
These are all good examples of why the U.S. should withdraw from the U.N. and withhold funding. That organization is a disgrace.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6778|Southeastern USA
he wasn't making fun of him for being blind, and yes I know blind people that get comments like that, they don't care, because they expect it when they wear sunglasses everywhere, and I don't have the time to sit here and dig through millions of useless UN resolutions like moveon.org or whoever did originally for that post with their armies of pissed off cuz their lunch money was stolen in grade school hippy interns, but the most current one regarding Hezbollah/lebanon is 1559, as well as the Taif Agreement

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2004/sc8181.doc.htm
note that in spite of years of "we shall wipe israel from the face of history" rhetoric, this is the first time the UN has ever had the decency to denounce (another useless UN pastime, denouncing shit) such statements


I don't know who these people are, but this was written long before the current spat
http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/sib/2_05/har_dov.htm

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-07-17 21:22:04)

cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
Alright he was making fun of him for wearing sunglasses in the middle of a press conference, very unprofessional if you ask me.  I've worked for major corporations and when ever the was a Q and A the head up never singled anyone out.

And research is the ultimate time killer on Internet forums.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6778|Southeastern USA
presidential press conferences are historically unique, these people practically live with the presidents and have a different relationship than corporate or .......say......municipal/press relations (like a mayor's press conference), Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, have all said similar things, often with the press responding in kind (most notably Reagan and Sam Donaldson), it is white house press corp tradition, in fact you'll find the culmination of this behavior in the white house press corp dinners every year


he did try to apologize, at which time the reporter told him it was not necessary
http://www.bottomlinecom.com/bush_blind_guy.htm
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
Ok so someone who was practically living with the prez was blind and the prez didn't know?

Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2006-07-17 21:54:26)

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