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I don't know what the heck that video was. Hard to tell if it making fun of racism, or the topic of racism. Every scene with tusken raiders though makes Star Wars frankly more embarrassing than it already is (goodness, the stereotypes in Phantom Menace alone were never going to age well).

Star Wars content peaked with Robot Chicken. Better Star Wars games have probably been canceled than the movies they're based on (RIP Jedi Knight and KotoR sequels), some in part thanks to Disney wanting to focus on Star Wars 7. I'm so glad we got that and fan-favorites like the punching-bag Battlefront II, rather than 1313 or First Assault slash-s.

Psh. It was episode 4 right there in the opening crawl. That wasn't something they added to the special edition.

When I say "peaked," I mean Robot Chicken was like a traffic cone plunked in the middle of a pothole.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2022-07-26 03:33:09)

Dilbert_X wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Psh. It was episode 4 right there in the opening crawl.

Thats not how I remember it.

Grab an old, pre-SE VHS and see for yourself. I definitely remember people joking about it in the 80s. "What happened to 1-3?"

In 2000 there was something in the short-lived pipeline for 2061 and 3001, something I would have much rather seen than Star Wars 7+.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I don't know what the heck that video was. Hard to tell if it making fun of racism, or the topic of racism.

Probably a bit of both.

stuff is categorically not funny. in fact, it is, as the kid's say, mid and cringe.

I literally don't give a toss about Star Wars, but real world facts are important.

It seems like facts are in support of Star Wars being considered episode 4 before the movie even came out, regardless of it not being in the cinematic crawl. What a hill for Dilbert to select, though. I don't remember ever having argued with anyone about the Star Wars crawl before, so new experience.

lol, there were plenty of scandalous, considered-explicit songs from the old-timey days.

I really hate that style of interview, the accusing "so you don't think, blah blah blah?" I've been asked stuff that way on numerous occasions, framed in such a manner where to disagree with it would put you in opposition of a Thing That Is Known.

??? how does this come into play with what I said? The man pretty much does the same thing, by the way, "you wouldn't say that blah blah blah?" I just think there are less obnoxious ways to frame questions in an interview/discussion, or even in a bitter argument.

Oh, yeah. I spent a lot of time watching and listening to that stuff as a kid. Had the privilege of living not too far from a public library. Tons of documentaries and older shows on tape, too. Ad compilations were especially amusing.

I will have to note though that the above clip is positively polite compared to the talk radio in recent decades.

While at the charity event I spoke of, I met a lady with the Members of Color committee. We spoke and came to an agreement regarding how the (new) MoC should move forward.

The MoC is less than a year old. I had the opportunity to spearhead it but didn't want the responsibility or to alienate white coworkers. It seems like they haven't done too much since then except meet twice. I skipped one meeting because I didn't think highly of the initiative. I decided to get involved now.

The state is already majority minority. Whites must make up 20% or less than the school district. Teaching and support staff is starting to become more diverse. The Board of Education is also very diverse due to being elected officials. The administration is the last domino to fall.

Admin is overwhelmingly white. Like almost totally. Huge lag between who makes up the district and who runs it. The MoC member I spoke to also felt that needed to change. So we are going to use the MoC to get minorities into leadership positions. We are going to see if we create links between the MoC and NAACP to further that goal. I have a plan about how to go about it.

The plan has two steps.

(1) First identify the positions and who is holding them. ID how long that person has been with the district and their age. With this information you can start to piece together what positions will become available and when.

(2) The second piece is to ID individuals capable of filling those roles. The board has said before that "no minorities are applying." We need to find minorities who want to be leaders and go about making sure they have the right certificates and their paperwork is in order. Once we have a list of MoC/NAACP approved candidates, we can start to organize around getting them into the positions that mapped out.

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A few thoughts about this...

First, this is what I assume the Irish and Italians did in their day when they realized that the WASP didn't have the numbers to hold onto their position. We see how that went. I think this could work out.

Secondly, I wouldn't be helping organize the MoC/NAACP bloc if there was an easier path to a leadership position. I think this is a real example of elite overproduction.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_o … structure.

I don't mind being the token minority leader among the whites but if I can't get into the existing power structure I will work to change it.

Finally, I don't expect a change of admin is going to change things for the better. Probably for the worse as institutional knowledge is lost.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_memory

But it is better to reign in hell than you know.