Race relations thread

2022-01-06 17:29:06

#5651

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3935

Where I live we imprisoned many Italians and Germans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internmen … _Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internmen … _Americans

I suspect we talk little about that since Italian and Germans are the "oppressor class" of modern America. I think more 'black centric' writers exaggerate Japanese internment as salami slicing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salami_slicing_tactic

But whatever, I plan to shoot my load into an Irish or Italian girl in my area. Thinking it over...Polish and/or Jews seem more likely.

2022-01-06 18:16:01

#5652

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6987|PNW

That's a little bad-faith. Like 95% of Japanese-Americans living in the continental US were relocated. From your links, less than 2,000 out of like 700,000 [0.2% of] Italian-Americans were relocated. 11,500 German-Americans out of a seven-figure population (eight if you count parentage), detained. Totally the same thing. I'm not arguing that we should have put 10+ million people into concentration camps to be fair. It shouldn't have been a thing.

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2022-01-06 18:36:49

#5653

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6322|eXtreme to the maX

SuperJail Warden wrote:
I don't consider it a big black mark. It is a small black mark. People just look for the bad in anything. They see a little bit of racism and think that is the sum of the man's soul.

I think you're using BLACK inappropriately.

Given that white people have done pretty well everything in the world they're responsible for doing everything bad.

Either use white mark or non-non-binary non-rainbow mark.

Fuck Israel

2022-01-06 18:51:33

#5654

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6987|PNW

, here we go.

2022-01-06 19:07:20

#5655

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3935

Who the hell cares 75 years later? I am not counting the millions of Puerto Ricans who found themselves suddenly American nationals 120 years ago. We fight today for tangible things.

My 85 year old Spaniard grandmother isn't angry that her grandparents were suddenly stuck in America because the Americans took away her family's plantation. "The American government put us in internment camps", okay but you are a 25 year old studying economics at Stanford. Of course not everyone cant be an economist but there are plenty of white people overdosing on couches in middle America too. A lot of good racism did them!

Turquoise wrote:
They could have been the upper class of America

Screw the upper class. A Kennedy died overdosing on ETC while Joe Biden ran for president.

Things are rough all over.” When Cherry and Ponyboy first meet, she observes that life is hard for everyone in an attempt to find common ground between herself, a Soc, and Ponyboy, a greaser.

Amazing that we figured that out awhile ago.

Kmar wrote:
What is the point you are trying to make?

Pick and choice your battles. Taking down FDR is not the hill you want to die on.

2022-01-06 21:59:14

#5656

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6987|PNW

SuperJail Warden wrote:
Who the hell cares 75 years later? I am not counting the millions of Puerto Ricans who found themselves suddenly American nationals 120 years ago. We fight today for tangible things.

My 85 year old Spaniard grandmother isn't angry that her grandparents were suddenly stuck in America because the Americans took away her family's plantation. "The American government put us in internment camps", okay but you are a 25 year old studying economics at Stanford. Of course not everyone cant be an economist but there are plenty of white people overdosing on couches in middle America too. A lot of good racism did them!

Was a nerve touched?

I'm not the one diminishing FDR's questionable decisions (or getting mad when they're brought up), because I'm otherwise "a fan." Even FDR buffs freely talk about bad stuff. He's your favorite president, but you apparently have a very limited scope of what is acceptable for an FDR topic. Bouncing from 'but this' to 'but that' ("here's 0.2% of the Italian-Americans who were put into camps, totally comparable with 95% of Japanese Americans!"), and then finally losing your patience, lol.

I suppose the Japanese-Americans who petitioned for redress should have dropped it because others didn't care and wanted to move on. Grievances invalidated!

I suppose because Reagan signed a thing in 1988 and apologized, that we should strike it from the history books out of fear that it will besmirch FDR. "Who the hell cares 75 years later," says the guy posting his grief about people badmouthing FDR.

2022-01-06 22:55:01

#5657

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6322|eXtreme to the maX

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
, here we go.

Unacceptable micro-aggression - give yourself a white mark.

Fuck Israel

2022-01-06 23:47:29

#5658

uziq: Member; +493|3668

i think you need to read more than those 7 history books you’ve got on your shelf if you think ‘the whites did everything in the world’.

even in the history of science, the history of maths/physics/engineering, even, in the narrow sense of your own specialism … erm, plenty of major contributions by non-whites and non-western thought.

2022-01-06 23:49:20

#5659

uziq: Member; +493|3668

dilbert: *works with arabic numerals and algebra everyday*
also dilbert: this world was made by whites!

2022-01-07 12:22:57

#5660

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3935

"A Georgia judge on Friday sentenced both Travis McMichael, the man who fatally shot Ahmaud Arbery, and his father to life in prison without the possibility of parole, but issued a lesser sentence of life with the possibility of parole to the other white man convicted of murdering Mr. Arbery, a 25-year-old Black man whom they had chased through their neighborhood."

No parole is harsh

2022-01-07 12:25:31

#5661

uziq: Member; +493|3668

that was straight-up murder. they chased a guy who posed absolutely no threat to them in a fucking pick-up truck.

it's the epitome of that scenario you warn about, when dumb people voluntarily take guns into a fucked-up situation of their own making.

2022-01-07 12:39:37

#5662

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,978|6848|949

Even my boomer mom who grew up in the Jim Crow South had harsh words for them.

Next up is the prosecuter who refused to bring charges. She needs to be held more accountable.

2022-01-07 18:53:15

#5663

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6987|PNW

Imagine bringing ruin onto two generations of your family because you flashed into murdering a black guy for running past like you were triggered by some sort of racist predatory instinct.

Even Donald Trump had this to say:

"My heart goes out to the parents and to the loved ones of the young gentleman. It's a very sad thing."

The murderers: not very fine people. Bad blood.

e: Why do you think the sentences are harsh, mac? Haven't you said elsewhere that we're too lenient on people in this country, or am I imagining things?

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2022-01-08 04:19:39

#5664

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3935

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
e: Why do you think the sentences are harsh, mac? Haven't you said elsewhere that we're too lenient on people in this country, or am I imagining things?

I think not giving them parole after 30 is harsh. When they started chasing him, like dummies, they did so with the intent of making an arrest and not killing him. On the other hand, once they killed him they showed no remorse. Either way, meh. Pigs in cages.

They have a second federal trial. I think the death penalty is on the table for that. Weird but whatever.

Regarding crime and punishment this local case caught my eye.

https://www.nj.com/news/2022/01/5-charg … ander.html

Federal authorities have charged five alleged Jersey City gang members for their roles in the murders of a rival and a teenage bystander in separate shootings last year.

Authorities said the two killings, which happened just days between each other, were acts of retaliation against a rival gang.

They now face additional charges from federal authorities after being charged Friday with murder in aid of racketeering, attempted murder in aid of racketeering, and two counts of discharging a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence. The trio faces life in prison, if convicted.

Mandatory life sentences. Very weird that the Feds would pursue cases against some insignificant gang members even if their crime spree was like something from the Wire.

2022-01-08 04:57:04

#5665

uziq: Member; +493|3668

your thinking on this is all sorts of stupid. 'kyle rittenhouse made a big mistake when he went into that neighbourhood with an AR-15'. 'they were just approaching him to make an arrest'. WTF? the guy hopped off the back of a flat-bed truck with a large rifle/shotgun-type weapon in one hand. this wasn't a peaceable 'citizen's arrest'. and, anyway, arrested for what? taking a fucking jog? stopping to look at an empty house-lot?

it's entirely foreseeable that if you, a non-uniformed person with zero fucking authority, screech to a halt behind a guy and start running towards him brandishing a weapon, then that person is either going to high-tail it or go into life-or-death self-defense mode. it's fight or flight. there can be no good outcomes from that situation. they surely knew that the minute they decided to yeeeehaw and get together in a truck to give pursuit ... again, with zero fucking authority to do so. why did no one with a brain cell between the 3/4 people involved or as witnesses to the incident once stop and pause and say, 'hey, this could be reckless/this could be illegal/maybe we should call the cops instead?' oh, yeah, that's because they wanted to be heroes and hunt down a negro with their nice shiny guns.

they deserve all the years they can eat. aren't you in support of the death penalty? why aren't you advocating for that? 'life sentences with parole aren't harsh enough because of the devastated families'. <someone gets given life without parole> 'wow that's kind of harsh'.

go and have a lie down.

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2022-01-08 05:37:35

#5666

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6932

SuperJail Warden wrote:
"A Georgia judge on Friday sentenced both Travis McMichael, the man who fatally shot Ahmaud Arbery, and his father to life in prison without the possibility of parole, but issued a lesser sentence of life with the possibility of parole to the other white man convicted of murdering Mr. Arbery, a 25-year-old Black man whom they had chased through their neighborhood."

No parole is harsh

they were lucky they didn't get the death penalty.

mac, would you stop if some random dude on the street told you to stop? what would you do if he kept following you and pulled a shotgun?

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2022-01-08 06:12:16

#5667

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3935

I don't think they chased him in order to kill him. Why are you guys acting like I want them released?

2022-01-08 06:40:10

#5668

uziq: Member; +493|3668

they engaged a person who was minding his own business when they were carrying multiple firearms. i don't know what they expected. what i do know is that that guy taking a jog that day didn't expect to get murdered.

2022-01-08 19:06:45

#5669

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6987|PNW

2022-01-08 19:32:10

#5670

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6322|eXtreme to the maX

But everyone in america carries multiple firearms

Fuck Israel

2022-01-08 19:35:05

#5671

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6987|PNW

Not everyone in America who has a weapon drive people down and shoot them.

2022-01-09 00:56:09

#5672

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6932

SuperJail Warden wrote:
I don't think they chased him in order to kill him.

don't need that for 1st degree. why did they pull out a shotgun? there was no threat.

he fucking snitched on himself lmaooooo. "my dad was excited, so we grabbed a shotgun"

lmao "i feel threatened when he tried to grab the shotgun i had pointed at him."

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2022-01-10 10:43:13

#5673

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3935

Regarding the girl who got killed by the cop by accident

Tyrone Napper never knew Valentina Orellana Peralta or her family. But when he heard about how the 14-year-old was killed by a Los Angeles police officer while shopping with her mother, he felt compelled to take a 30-minute bus ride Saturday morning to the girl’s public viewing at Angelus Funeral Home in Crenshaw.

“I just wanted to show my respect for the family,” the 72-year-old said. “It’s very painful to see someone lose their life at such a young age.”

Napper echoed the sentiment of many who came to view Valentina, who was fatally shot just days before Christmas.
...
Valentina’s funeral will be Monday at City of Refuge Church in Gardena.

At the viewing, Valentina was dressed in a pink plaid skirt, white tights and hot pink checkered vans.

“My daughter dresses just how she dresses,” Felicia Banks-Ali thought when she saw Valentina. Banks-Ali and her daughter, Jurnee, didn’t know Valentina, but said her death struck a chord.

“I’m here as a mother of a 14-year-old,” Banks-Ali said. “My daughter Jurnee and I try on clothes in the dressing room all the time. So, to imagine being in a dressing room with your daughter and something like that occurs? That’s pretty devastating.”

Al Sharpton gave a speech at the funeral. The lawyer for the George Floyd family is now representing this family. Both ambulance chasers but at least the family is guaranteed to get a big payout.

What I found interesting about the article how many black people came out for the viewing. The black cop who shot the white Spanish girl was trying to smoke another Spanish person. Black activist are trying hard to be respectful of the death and not sweeping it under the rug since it was one of their own. They don't want the two communities split over the incident. That's good I guess.

2022-01-10 18:33:22

#5674

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6322|eXtreme to the maX

I'm confused, why aren't spanish mobs burning down black neighbourhoods?

Fuck Israel

2022-01-10 22:29:57

#5675

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6987|PNW

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