Wow was reading the comments in that thread. Public Freakouts is like early day gamergate level of intelligence.
Looked like there was another comment mirroring macbeth's bail reform stuff. I think people who hate read things will sometimes subconsciously adopt the very stances they rage against.
Liberal contact: "I just look at Fox News to have conversations and arguments with conservatives. It's the only way I can voice my opinion!"
Me, for the nth time: "Here's like 50 other, more fulfilling places you could go for that."
That liberal contact: "But I want to be there to to fight misinformation, OK?!"
Also (same) liberal contact: *begins to voice rather startling opinions in-line with fox views*
#unpack
Liberal contact: "I just look at Fox News to have conversations and arguments with conservatives. It's the only way I can voice my opinion!"
Me, for the nth time: "Here's like 50 other, more fulfilling places you could go for that."
That liberal contact: "But I want to be there to to fight misinformation, OK?!"
Also (same) liberal contact: *begins to voice rather startling opinions in-line with fox views*
#unpack
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I have no love for the police. But the system where we release people for minor crimes almost immediately combined with refusal to prosecute thefts under $1000 is leading to crime exploding in many urban cities. Much to the detriment of the people there. The Fox News people argue in bad faith. I actually like cities and want them to be safe.
This experiment in alternate justice maybe needs to be reevaluated. Of course I believe we should legalize most drugs. Half of the problem with policing is the War on Drugs. Thefts should still be prosecuted though.
This experiment in alternate justice maybe needs to be reevaluated. Of course I believe we should legalize most drugs. Half of the problem with policing is the War on Drugs. Thefts should still be prosecuted though.
Cool hypothesis, bro
Also, if police aren't allowed to beat people to death for minor or non-infractions, tHeY wOn'T wAnT tO dO tHeIr JoBs!
so my gf spent like half a year travelling all around the states (not that usual for otherwise pretty sheltered koreans; she’s not korean-american and has no ties there).KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
No, it's not that SF is an urban techno-dystopia where class stratification is as visible as laminations in sedimentary rock. No, it's because of bail reform.
this intrigued me. i asked her for the rundown. she did some shit which, on the surface, seems crazy to me. she got public transport, alone, at night, to check out a specific jazz/blues place in the south side of chicago. like way off the beaten track. she read a review about it online (koreans always, always figure out where to go and navigate based on posted Naver reviews). of course when she turned up, it was a tiny rundown place full of locals and she was a lone korean woman. she actually had a good time and enjoyed it. phew.
but i digress. i asked her which place she liked the least. she didn’t even hesitate to answer, after visiting about 15 different states: San Francisco. she said she hated SF. normally you hear tourists complain that the gap between image/reality in LA is the real bummer; but no. SF bummed her out. she said it was incredibly dirty and depressing.
favourite place fyi was new orleans and louisiana generally. cool chick.
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Be kind to one and another
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I mean I guess if a PI working for your school was looking for you online by details given by your posts, if any of it's true they might be able to work it out. tl;dr not all cultures have this innate open wound concerning black people that needs mending, but your kids probably aren't going to think about that. Or maybe it was just an excuse to punch another kid.
I feel like we get to hear a lot about the disrespectful students at your school, from your perspective as a strict, hallway-patrolling teacher (a Snape-person).
How about we balance that out with some random anecdotes from the other side of the coin?
As it so happens, I bumped into a very convenient gallery of them that strike me as quite believable, considering some of my own experiences and witnessings: https://imgur.com/gallery/BFMgh8V
Some choice stories, although a lot are pretty funny/sad,
And some teachers wonder why they sometimes get helicopter parents aggressively advocating for their children. Practically a meme, being overprotective!
Adding my own here, it was winter in first grade and none of the students were allowed to blow their nose or even sniff. We had to have been making noise on purpose to disrupt class!
How about we balance that out with some random anecdotes from the other side of the coin?
As it so happens, I bumped into a very convenient gallery of them that strike me as quite believable, considering some of my own experiences and witnessings: https://imgur.com/gallery/BFMgh8V
Some choice stories, although a lot are pretty funny/sad,
And some teachers wonder why they sometimes get helicopter parents aggressively advocating for their children. Practically a meme, being overprotective!
Adding my own here, it was winter in first grade and none of the students were allowed to blow their nose or even sniff. We had to have been making noise on purpose to disrupt class!
Another golden story:
I remember my own was first grade, around Halloween we got these gift bags with novelty erasers and balls and stuff. One item was this like foot long pencil with a cap, I PRETENDED to write on the back of the bus seat in front of me. Pencil capped, held about an inch away. Got in SO MUCH trouble, despite no writing or marks on the seat. I was permanently banned from riding the bus, except field trips and my mom had to battle hard to get them to allow me on them, where I was watched closely. I'm still bitter about it over 20 years later.
I shit myself in first grade because the teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom. I ruined a sweet pair of maroon jeans. Good thing they had elastic cuffs on the legs, I guess.
A lot of cities in America have maybe one nice square mile for tourist brochure pics and TV dramas, the rest is urban dystopia with bums living in garbage.uziq wrote:
i asked her which place she liked the least. she didn’t even hesitate to answer, after visiting about 15 different states: San Francisco. she said she hated SF. normally you hear tourists complain that the gap between image/reality in LA is the real bummer; but no. SF bummed her out. she said it was incredibly dirty and depressing.
Some don't even have that nice square mile.
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SF seems particularly egregious because there's so much wealth in the bay area. the contrast must be really jarring.
i guess the city council has been captured by 'locals' who are watching their zoned property prices rise with an eagle-eye, or by tech-bros who think they can fix every social problem using AI or something.
i think part of it, as well, is that in every major city the historical terminus for public transport/disembarkation is normally a real shithole. i'm pretty sure skid row in LA or whatever where all the bums hang out in central SF historically used to be the region used by rail travellers and their hotels. the 'first impression' one gets of a lot of places when arriving by plane/rail/coach is normally one of its worst bits for this reason.
i guess the city council has been captured by 'locals' who are watching their zoned property prices rise with an eagle-eye, or by tech-bros who think they can fix every social problem using AI or something.
i think part of it, as well, is that in every major city the historical terminus for public transport/disembarkation is normally a real shithole. i'm pretty sure skid row in LA or whatever where all the bums hang out in central SF historically used to be the region used by rail travellers and their hotels. the 'first impression' one gets of a lot of places when arriving by plane/rail/coach is normally one of its worst bits for this reason.
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Maybe the homeless should be driven from public transportation places. You don't have to step on their necks. Just offer them some pot and food to take a road trip with police to a tent city near a National Forest. Help them rediscover the great outdoors.
In Paris the council use hoses to 'wash' the nice parts.
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What is this? They would just trickle back into the cities because there's nothing for you in the forest unless you were an eagle scout or something and can survive as a mountain man. Telling a homeless person, a person with little or no shelter, to rediscover the great outdoors. LMAO, I hope you're being purely sarcastic.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Maybe the homeless should be driven from public transportation places. You don't have to step on their necks. Just offer them some pot and food to take a road trip with police to a tent city near a National Forest. Help them rediscover the great outdoors.
I'm sure the National Park Service would just love that, as well. More garbage, and a rash of forest bandits preying on hikers. Great.
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To keep them where we want we could make it really isolated and send them food, pot, and medical supplies. I will even be generous and allow a heroin ration.
Sounds a bit like a concentration camp, and still doesn't address the root causes of homelessness.
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It won't be a concentration camp. People could leave whenever they want. We will send in the police from time to time to look for kids to abduct into foster care.
I imagine you're pulling some sort of long devil's advocacy for whatever reason. How about instead of a modern trail of tears the country just makes it easier for people to access food, shelter, medicine, mental health care, and then gainful employment and entrepreneurship? The Republicans who care so much about a bundle of cells while it's inside a woman can put their money where their mouth is and put in their due diligence to make sure that school meal programs are completely funded, in operation, and accessible so that students in this country who grew up malnourished become an increasingly, astronomically rare find, and that no child has their meal scooped into the trash in front of the whole school because mom was late on a payment to the lunch lady. Universal daycare backed by a system where more families can afford to have a parent forgo three jobs to take care of their children when they aren't in preschool or whatever. Public tutoring for those who apply for/need it, including for adults, not just for those who can afford it, and not just for academic topics. Revitalize and empower our public library system and community centers.
What a better goal to strive to than making a bunch of tent cities in national parks for the homeless and then sending police through every now and then to collect dead people and confiscate children to toss into dubious foster care.
What a better goal to strive to than making a bunch of tent cities in national parks for the homeless and then sending police through every now and then to collect dead people and confiscate children to toss into dubious foster care.
Pew research last year said over 50% of young adults were living with their parents, crossing a threshold we've notably been past during the Great Depression.
The problem is we don't have enough tents for everyone. /s
The problem is we don't have enough tents for everyone. /s
Well for that you can notably thank the reagan/thatcher era and their socioeconomic philosophies, which ended up dominating the political field for decades.
But the Communists!
The trickle down economy will prove em wrong