BF2S Forums Gun politics, firearms ownership, and US 2nd amendment discussion

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I almost feel bad that the cop looks exactly as I'd envisioned from just hearing about it.

I went to a hibachi restaurant last night with a friend. We were seated with two other couples. Of course the tubby bald guy was a Trump supporter and liked law enforcement.

Fat bald men. Never trust them.

my uncle lived in florida for a while whilst trying to expand his real-estate business. he met with the local sheriff in his little gated community and, in the course of a conversation, went from being an anti-guns skeptical brit to a gun-toting home-defender. it really do be like that. get a gun or be outgunned.

i think it's really sad to live in a first-world country and be under the constant fear of a lethal home-invasion or a fight in a bar with a guy who pulls a weapon.. burglaries happen in the UK too, of course, but people don't have to worry about guns being involved. generally speaking i never fear violence - let alone lethal violence involving a weapon - in my daily life here. going to sleep with a gun cabinet in your bedroom strikes me as something wholly appropriate for a society like eritrea or somalia, not the west.

i see the pragmatic reasoning behind arming yourself because the bad guys have guns, but honestly that strikes me as a really depressing state of affairs.

Last edited by uziq (2019-07-17 03:22:18)

if you're into historical re-enactment and fetishizing ww2 guns, go nuts. why do they have to be functional? are you going to shoot nazis in wisconsin?

Come the zombie apocalypse you need to rotate your ARs or they overheat, thats why you need 10-20 at least.

I like guns and shooting but everyone having a gun does not make you safer, a gun on your hip does not make you bulletproof.

uziq wrote:

if you're into historical re-enactment and fetishizing ww2 guns, go nuts. why do they have to be functional?

Same reason you would like reading books. You wouldn't want your book collection to have all pages glued together or each page painted all over to cover the words now would you?

War Man wrote:

uziq wrote:

if you're into historical re-enactment and fetishizing ww2 guns, go nuts. why do they have to be functional?

Same reason you would like reading books. You wouldn't want your book collection to have all pages glued together or each page painted all over to cover the words now would you?

sorry did i miss something? were there nearly 40,000 book-related deaths in the US last year?

reading more books seems to make you generally smarter. im willing to bet that the more guns you own, the stupider you generally are.

owning books is a great idea. you can annotate them, circulate them to your friends as you wish. if you think owning books is all about hoarding and gathering dust then i guess you don’t actually use books very prominently in your life. you can’t take a library book down off the shelf any time you want a quotation or reference.

the ‘use’ argument for owning a fully automatic weapon just because it was used to spray down nazis in neuville, not so convincing unfortunately.

uziq wrote:

owning books is a great idea. you can annotate them, circulate them to your friends as you wish. if you think owning books is all about hoarding and gathering dust then i guess you don’t actually use books very prominently in your life. you can’t take a library book down off the shelf any time you want a quotation or reference.

the ‘use’ argument for owning a fully automatic weapon just because it was used to spray down nazis in neuville, not so convincing unfortunately.

Private ownership of books has led to millions of deaths, they should only be held by government agencies, no need for the private citizen to be owning books.

uziq wrote:

people died for ideas in your above examples, ideology, ... paper pages, ....are ...a means of conveying them

So for your own venal self-interest you're prepared to put public safety at risk?
I'm coming to the conclusion you're not a hipster at all, everything you've told us is lies.

as far as stupid and contrived arguments go, this is up there with your best.

Its got to be near the top.

Anyway, I don't see why black people shooting each other is an argument for preventing white people owning guns.

Visual media like movies, television, video games, and YouTube is a massive problem. They kill more people than guns and books.

I am not just talking about violence. Drug overdoses, fatal drunk driving accidents, rape, sexual assault. The media is constantly telling people they need to live a certain way or have certain things and it makes people unhappy when they can't achieve it or hurt themselves trying to.