residency determines access. just because youre an aus citizen doesn't mean you get medicare. you can only get it if you actually lived in the country over 2 years.Dilbert_X wrote:
Its a levy, which isn't hypothecated and doesn't determine access to healthcare.
It might as well be a sandy beaches levy for all the relevance.
You get done for failing to pay taxes - you're still entitled to free healthcare.Jay wrote:
What happens if you refuse to pay it?
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its so free it comes out of your taxes right. just like how welfare is free money right dilbert.Dilbert_X wrote:
You get done for failing to pay taxes - you're still entitled to free healthcare.Jay wrote:
What happens if you refuse to pay it?
To the last point, yes.Dilbert_X wrote:
Its free at the point of use, and doesn't depend on individuals personally paying any tax, so from both points of view its free to the individual.
Unlike for people who get zero healthcare if they don't pay for private insurance.....
Are you going to say using a park isn't 'free' because they're paid for out of taxes?
yeah because we don't have private hospital or insurance at all!Jay wrote:
To the last point, yes.Dilbert_X wrote:
Its free at the point of use, and doesn't depend on individuals personally paying any tax, so from both points of view its free to the individual.
Unlike for people who get zero healthcare if they don't pay for private insurance.....
Are you going to say using a park isn't 'free' because they're paid for out of taxes?
To the rest, must be nice being a doctor then as everyone in the country is forced to pay your salary whether they need your services or not. Sounds highly efficient... for the doctors and hospitals...
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Must be nice being a roads engineer, air traffic controller, police officer, soldier or.... any other government employee really if people pay tax but don't use your services.Jay wrote:
To the rest, must be nice being a doctor then as everyone in the country is forced to pay your salary whether they need your services or not. Sounds highly efficient... for the doctors and hospitals...
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My point was that if people pay for services they don't necessarily use on the off chance they really need them... well that sounds just like private insurance to me. The difference here being doctor pay is allocated more efficiently by need. Do your rural doctors make the same pay as your city doctors? Ours don't because the market sets the price, not some distant bureaucrat. Your system is different from ours, not better nor worse, just different. I know that non-uniformity makes you uncomfortable, you're just gonna have to fight back your innate engineers desire for symmetry.Dilbert_X wrote:
Must be nice being a roads engineer, air traffic controller, police officer, soldier or.... any other government employee really if people pay tax but don't use your services.Jay wrote:
To the rest, must be nice being a doctor then as everyone in the country is forced to pay your salary whether they need your services or not. Sounds highly efficient... for the doctors and hospitals...
Please give up with your Ayn Rand gibberish, did you pick that up during your stint in the military or during your tax-payer funded degree?
Must be nice being in the Army and having everyone in the country forced to pay your salary and your college whether or not they need or want your services.
Sounds highly efficient - for you.
Govt allocates money for services, its not complex and works well for most countries.
naw doctors in rural areas get paid a lot better due to supply/demand, especially in mining areas. doctors also are paid per patient they see and theres other factors, except its just the gov that pays the cost. you obviously don't understand how our system works, you think its some socialist utopia where all doctors get paid the same when there are a lot of market forces at play.Jay wrote:
My point was that if people pay for services they don't necessarily use on the off chance they really need them... well that sounds just like private insurance to me. The difference here being doctor pay is allocated more efficiently by need. Do your rural doctors make the same pay as your city doctors? Ours don't because the market sets the price, not some distant bureaucrat. Your system is different from ours, not better nor worse, just different. I know that non-uniformity makes you uncomfortable, you're just gonna have to fight back your innate engineers desire for symmetry.Dilbert_X wrote:
Must be nice being a roads engineer, air traffic controller, police officer, soldier or.... any other government employee really if people pay tax but don't use your services.Jay wrote:
To the rest, must be nice being a doctor then as everyone in the country is forced to pay your salary whether they need your services or not. Sounds highly efficient... for the doctors and hospitals...
Please give up with your Ayn Rand gibberish, did you pick that up during your stint in the military or during your tax-payer funded degree?
Must be nice being in the Army and having everyone in the country forced to pay your salary and your college whether or not they need or want your services.
Sounds highly efficient - for you.
Govt allocates money for services, its not complex and works well for most countries.
People pay for services they don't use all the time, I doubt I use as much as 1% of the states roads, I haven't used the services of the Police, Fire or Ambulance, I don't use the cycle tracks, jogging tracks or the skateboard park - why should I pay for these things then?Jay wrote:
My point was that if people pay for services they don't necessarily use on the off chance they really need them... well that sounds just like private insurance to me. The difference here being doctor pay is allocated more efficiently by need. Do your rural doctors make the same pay as your city doctors? Ours don't because the market sets the price, not some distant bureaucrat. Your system is different from ours, not better nor worse, just different. I know that non-uniformity makes you uncomfortable, you're just gonna have to fight back your innate engineers desire for symmetry.
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Maybe if your a banker or a burger flipper.Jay wrote:
You get 16 hours a day outside of work.
Ideally. Between my commute and everything else I spend about 10 hours and 15 minutes doing work stuff.Extra Medium wrote:
Maybe if your a banker or a burger flipper.Jay wrote:
You get 16 hours a day outside of work.
what a coincidence!Dilbert_X wrote:
Only boring people get bored.
Nice! What's the job? I've never experienced a second interview, as they are not terribly common in Canada.Finray wrote:
So I had an interview at 11am yesterday
got an email at 2pm
got a second interview next tuesday
wadup g
Jay, that's not reasonable and you know it. Cooking, commuting to and from work, grocery shopping, showering, and cleaning take up much of the 'free time' we're not to waste. I'd say the average person gets 3, maybe 4 hours at best during the work week.Jay wrote:
If you're bored then you're boring.
You get 16 hours a day outside of work. You spend half of that sleeping. A third of your life is yours to do with as you please. Don't waste it.
