the original context of my post was clearly 'esteem' and 'respect' within the professional discipline. i think "fame" is pretty relative, no? leading literary academics achieve 'fame' within their fields, and are employed to visit different institutions all over the world, to hold forth on their specialism(s). the nature of the profession is very public - either as an orator/lecturer, or as a published author, with potential to have your books read/translated all over the world. i'd say there is a potential for 'fame', of a sort there. which is clearly what i was talking about when i mentioned that a well-paying job with a network of esteem and professional conduct is perfectly desirable. certain literary scholars/critics of the highest rank will be known by name to undergraduates all over the world, because of their frequent referencing on most basic reading lists/curricula, etc.etc. i'd say there's clearly a potential path to 'fame' or at least 'recognition' within the academic career ladder. the very basic form of production in the career is writing and publishing, you are essentially putting yourself out there to be read, cited, discussed etc. every single day.
my comment's meaning was fairly clear. only you would be anal enough to pick up on it and 'aha!' me because "academics are not world-famous" in the 'justin bieber is world famous' sense. you're being smarmy about a contradiction in terms here. do you know how stupid you look? you're asking that an academic - by definition someone scholarly, a person whose life-work is erudition - to be 'famous' in the sense that a pop star is. scholarship. popularity. erudition. populism. right. they really mix. it would be a terrible judgement of an academic to gauge his 'populist' success.
and yeah, sure, again, i really meant that academics "plan their entire life and career" around being around 18-25 year olds. it was a facetious point. i'm not sure anyone goes through 8+ years of training to enter a hideously competitive job-market for the slim 'possibility of being around young coeds'. if someone was a pervert or lusted after young women, i'm pretty sure there are hundreds of other professions that don't carry a 120,000 word PhD thesis as an entry point. you fucking moron. "plan their entire life and career around having ready access to 18 year olds". i cannot believe what i am fucking reading. that's REALLY the reason an academic commits themselves to researching extremely difficult intellectual content at the fringes of their field, for a whole lifetime... 95% of the academics i know are married, with children, by the time they settled into a post or their career in the main, at age 40'ish. how are you doing on that front, pervert-catcher?
on the contrary, i would say what you elect do in your spare time - e.g. posting in pervy soft-core porn threads - is far more indicting. what a sad little twerp.
my comment's meaning was fairly clear. only you would be anal enough to pick up on it and 'aha!' me because "academics are not world-famous" in the 'justin bieber is world famous' sense. you're being smarmy about a contradiction in terms here. do you know how stupid you look? you're asking that an academic - by definition someone scholarly, a person whose life-work is erudition - to be 'famous' in the sense that a pop star is. scholarship. popularity. erudition. populism. right. they really mix. it would be a terrible judgement of an academic to gauge his 'populist' success.
and yeah, sure, again, i really meant that academics "plan their entire life and career" around being around 18-25 year olds. it was a facetious point. i'm not sure anyone goes through 8+ years of training to enter a hideously competitive job-market for the slim 'possibility of being around young coeds'. if someone was a pervert or lusted after young women, i'm pretty sure there are hundreds of other professions that don't carry a 120,000 word PhD thesis as an entry point. you fucking moron. "plan their entire life and career around having ready access to 18 year olds". i cannot believe what i am fucking reading. that's REALLY the reason an academic commits themselves to researching extremely difficult intellectual content at the fringes of their field, for a whole lifetime... 95% of the academics i know are married, with children, by the time they settled into a post or their career in the main, at age 40'ish. how are you doing on that front, pervert-catcher?
on the contrary, i would say what you elect do in your spare time - e.g. posting in pervy soft-core porn threads - is far more indicting. what a sad little twerp.
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