BF2S Forums [World of Warcraft - MMO] Discussion

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

i'm sorry that WoW represents such a personal and emotional sorepoint for you, jay. but please don't lecture me on 'maturity and perspective', because you allowed it to completely overtake your life. many people can play a video-game and partake in the subtle system of status-signifiers and skill markers without giving it 6 months' of their life.

i think my quite rational argument about transmogrifying ruining the in-game immersion and integrity still stands. yes, people can still preen in the absolute best gear if they want. but that's not what people who transmog do. most people dress up shitty gear to look like good (and easily attainable, now) gear from the past. there's no coherence to in-game PvP or player encounters anymore. you literally don't know what you're fighting. that's potentially game-breaking. identifying an armour-set or some such that would denote a players talent build/spec was crucial to lining up a decent 1v1. now you're half-guessing through the 'kekeke tier 2.5 looks awsm' cosmetic bullshit.

It figures that you were a strict pvp'er. Pvp'ers whined about everything constantly. Biggest crybabies I've ever met on the internet, hands down.

Jay wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

i'm sorry that WoW represents such a personal and emotional sorepoint for you, jay. but please don't lecture me on 'maturity and perspective', because you allowed it to completely overtake your life. many people can play a video-game and partake in the subtle system of status-signifiers and skill markers without giving it 6 months' of their life.

i think my quite rational argument about transmogrifying ruining the in-game immersion and integrity still stands. yes, people can still preen in the absolute best gear if they want. but that's not what people who transmog do. most people dress up shitty gear to look like good (and easily attainable, now) gear from the past. there's no coherence to in-game PvP or player encounters anymore. you literally don't know what you're fighting. that's potentially game-breaking. identifying an armour-set or some such that would denote a players talent build/spec was crucial to lining up a decent 1v1. now you're half-guessing through the 'kekeke tier 2.5 looks awsm' cosmetic bullshit.

It figures that you were a strict pvp'er. Pvp'ers whined about everything constantly. Biggest crybabies I've ever met on the internet, hands down.

i did everything. PvP and PvE. oh and i never whined when i played vanilla. i wasn't a carebear, crybaby, or QQ'er. i ripped ass and enjoyed every minute of it. it figures that you'd be the sort who complained about complainers whilst you played it, and then poured out your psychic pain about "wasting so much time" several years later. dumbass.

honestly just stop trying to take a minor, pretty simple critique about the game's current design to "personal attacks" territory. you have nothing on me here. you've just basically wept for half a post about how it was all a futile waste of your time, when all i'm talking about is straight gameplay mechanics and practicalities. stop trying to make it a personal thing. it's idiotic.

Last edited by Uzique The Lesser (2013-04-02 10:22:40)

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

yes roc, having $9 debited from your account per month for a video-game subscription definitely precluded you from getting laid.

you really are 14 still, aren't you? the fixation with 'getting girls'. i did just fine throughout my years playing WoW. not that the implied correlation between 'video game subscription' and 'sex life' is anything less than fucking retarded.

>Playing WoW over getting pussy

The city of You.

Roc18 wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

yes roc, having $9 debited from your account per month for a video-game subscription definitely precluded you from getting laid.

you really are 14 still, aren't you? the fixation with 'getting girls'. i did just fine throughout my years playing WoW. not that the implied correlation between 'video game subscription' and 'sex life' is anything less than fucking retarded.

>Playing WoW over getting pussy

The city of You.

are you really this stupid? please tell me you are really not this stupid.

it's not 'trolling' when you just act plain unintelligent. god gave you a brain. lord knows you're using it to count beans, but please use it in some other capacity sometime.

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

yes roc, having $9 debited from your account per month for a video-game subscription definitely precluded you from getting laid.

you really are 14 still, aren't you? the fixation with 'getting girls'. i did just fine throughout my years playing WoW. not that the implied correlation between 'video game subscription' and 'sex life' is anything less than fucking retarded.

>Playing WoW over getting pussy

The city of You.

are you really this stupid? please tell me you are really not this stupid.

it's not 'trolling' when you just act plain unintelligent. god gave you a brain. lord knows you're using it to count beans, but please use it in some other capacity sometime.

If the game was free every month like Guild wars I'd play it.

My friend started playing recently, tried convincing me and actually got his girlfriend into it as well lol.

Roc18 wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

>Playing WoW over getting pussy

The city of You.

are you really this stupid? please tell me you are really not this stupid.

it's not 'trolling' when you just act plain unintelligent. god gave you a brain. lord knows you're using it to count beans, but please use it in some other capacity sometime.

If the game was free every month like Guild wars I'd play it.

My friend started playing recently, tried convincing me and actually got his girlfriend into it as well lol.

i played gw1 as well, and the different payment model totally altered the game's design. back in vanilla WoW the subscription did actually get you frequent updates and events, to be fair. gw1 was pretty boring for most of the time. and the 'periodic expansion pack' model wasn't all that great. i had rinsed all of gw1 standard's content long before the first expansion pack was launched, so i ended up quitting the game and losing interest. not to mention the subscription fees of WoW actually supported a genuine MMO, in terms of hardware and game world. GW1 was a relatively infrastructure-light instanced game-world. it wasn't really even an MMO. so yes, the extra money in WoW was worth it.

if you look through the patch history and class changes in WoW, it's quite clear druids have always been favouritized. druids have consistently been given lots of neat things and infinite versatility throughout WoW. so much so that there was a huge alliance vs. horde based complaint on the forums, just b/c horde's shaman counter-parts got so little love in comparison. plus, in general, WoW's design changes have more and more gone to favour hybrid classes.

I assume you played a rogue btw, because they had a genuine gripe in TBC regarding role and damage. They were godlike in vanilla and garbage in tbc.

Jay wrote:

I assume you played a rogue btw, because they had a genuine gripe in TBC regarding role and damage. They were godlike in vanilla and garbage in tbc.

actually the general line of complaints go that rogues have been stronger and stronger as expacs go on. rogues were far from godmode in vanilla. the godmode classes in vanilla, in order of the game's general age/development, were: retadins, shadow priests, ms warriors, warlocks, ele shammies. rogues were good in the hands of a good player, but were never 'godmode'. i co-led the best PvP guild on the server - later on the whole merged battlegroup - and attended many people being selected and boosted for that weeks rank gains. the most common r14's were the above classes. the first r14 on our (early vanilla) server was an arms warrior. many other classes had situational win-buttons in vanilla. the rogues win button - vanish - only worked 70% of the time in the early game's dev. again, i get the feeling you're trying to make my critiques about the game's current state into something a little too personal. let it go, jay. you just said it ruined your life. you don't need to make tiny little comments to put me down, or put yourself up.

and yes, 2 resto druids per 40 man raid, maybe. the whole point of a hybrid class was that you could get into a raid-group in several different roles. from TBC onwards the versatility of druids was a joke. you could feral tank better than a warrior, resto heal (especially in pvp) better than a priest, and even moonkin nuke in PvE raiding better than mages. you out-did all the pure classes. please tell me some more though about how it was so difficult for you! classes like rogue suffered from a severe lack of utility, in comparison. it only makes sense that as the move went to satisfy the individual player more / make the game more solo-friendly, that hybrid classes got the most immediate boost. rogues had pathetic and redundant AoE moves introduced. i remember the AoE they brought in for TBC i used like once ever, and that was clearing rooms of trash in kara.

Last edited by Uzique The Lesser (2013-04-02 11:05:03)

Rogue was my favourite character.

Hunter was my first and DK was alright for a laff.

mage was always strong but kind of flavor of the month. early patches arcane was strong, then arcane became a duff build again until late TBC (i think? when it became ridiculous again). frost ruled the roost in PvP for a long while, until arena arcane gimmick builds took it over. raiding was fire or nothing for ages and ages. my second back-up char was a mage, actually. i really enjoyed it.

I had a female blood elf priest I think. I don't think I got her above level 17 or so.

Adams_BJ wrote:

The only female character I had was a priest. My friend always rolls women. Am I the only one that finds the whole playing a woman in an rpg thing weird?

it would be weird if you went around role playing as a woman trying to suck peoples dicks

other than that its not weird at all