DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6898|Disaster Free Zone

Ilocano wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

So, just got this game, got to lvl 8 and am already bored and extremely frustrated.

The complete lack of mouse/keyboard support is a game killer, the menus suck, the movement (especially in combat) is sluggish unresponsive and inconsistent. The UI is terrible and has rendered the game almost unplayable.

The way Bethesda released this on PC they shouldn't have even bothered.
Have you tried unchecking the "360 controller" option?

As for sluggish combat, were you using two-handed weapons?
Yes and yes.
The menus are just an abomination and are taken straight from the console version and not optimized for a mouse. You should be able to click and drag things in your inventory/skills, not have a massive list of crap you need to scroll through to get anything done. Combat needs a proper quick skill bar not the flawed favourites list. Nor should I need to go through several levels of menus and then scroll through a hundred items to find the appropriate pot or spell I want to use/select.

As for actual combat unresponsiveness, sometimes my character will take a step forward when swinging, sometimes not. Sometimes after a swing they'll stumble a few steps forward usually past whoever I'm attacking so I then have to turn or walk backwards, other times they stay where they were, doesn't matter if it's normal or power attack, if I hit or miss, its just lethargic and random. Other complaints are when chasing an enemy and trying to hit them I will stop when making a swing easily allowing the enemy to move out of melee range, Its as if I need to be in front of them when starting the attack, so by the time it's finished they'll have run into where its hitting. Also when I do a power attack I would like to be able to start the back swing and hold it until I want it released.

Then there's the difficulty curve step, can't call it a curve as there is no progression. The random mobs and enemies are just way to easy, I can 1 hit most, 2 hit the others and they do practically no dmg to me in return it's just faceroll everything. Then you arrive at the 'boss' and things take a massive leap, they no longer die in 1-2 hits but it now takes 10 or more, they also no longer do trivial dmg but can 2 or 3 hit KO you, the strength of bosses is so far out of comparison to their mobs it's ridiculous. Combined with the aboves movement problems boss fights become a game of chance, will or will I not stumble forward and get instant killed on this swing or will I stay where I am and be able to retreat to avoid getting killed, and I have to take that gamble multiple times, making every boss fight a plethora of reloads till the dice rolls in my favour.

Now I'm not saying this is a bad game, the world, the quests the environment the dialogue etc are all as I had expected and they massively improved the leveling system over Oblivion which is nice, though imo they took it a bit far in oversimplifying your character. It's not my preferred type of RPG (but they stopped making them in 2003) but it's still enjoyable except for some very obvious control issues for which bethesda is either actively trolling PC gamers or just outright giving them the middle finger to fuck off.

Ilocano wrote:

Ryan wrote:

To each his own I suppose. It has received 9/10 and 10/10 by several game reviewers. I love the game.
I think DrunkFace wanted something like a DragonAge II action-RPG.
Seriously?? You could not be further from the truth. Here's my 'review' of DA (apparently the superior game in the series). I never even bothered with DO2 cause DA was so bad.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 6#p3369616

Ilocano wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I just don't understand how one could get bored with a game that takes 500+ hours just to do everything possible. I just love the feeling of coming over the top of a hill and anticipating what I am going to see next.
Action RPG generation.  Like how some people enjoyed DA2 over DA:O because it didn't have all the "wall of"  conversations that DA:O had.

I think you can appreciate Bethesda style RPG games more if you grew up enjoying turn-based RPG.  Like the Original Fallout and Balder's Gate.  Story over hack/slash.
duh.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 5#p3617565
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p3182368
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 5#p2956215

Spoiler (highlight to read):
The reason BG isn't top of that last list is because it was released in 1998
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7060|Alberta, Canada

What difficulty are you playing at?
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6685

Ryan wrote:

I hate the random booby traps in the caves and dungeons. Walking along, step on a trick tile, then bam, hit by a swinging mace thing.
Traps in ancient ruins? Stop the presses.
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,741|6954|Oxferd Ohire
most traps i dont even see till im past. . .

Last edited by RTHKI (2011-11-23 20:32:07)

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NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6685

Pay more attention?
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7060|Alberta, Canada

Yea, I don't see them till I pass them or activate them.

And it's not unheard of to have traps in ancient crypts, as you say, buts that not what I meant. I meant that those are what scare me the most in the game lol.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6898|Disaster Free Zone

Ryan wrote:

What difficulty are you playing at?
The default one, adept I think it is.

RTHKI wrote:

most traps i dont even see till im past. . .
Most traps don't even do anything, take off like 5% health which you get back in like 3 seconds. Pointless.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,741|6954|Oxferd Ohire
i dont hit them..
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6955|Toronto | Canada

You can press 1, 2, etc on weapons, spells and shouts to have the numbered favourites
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6839|Little Bentcock
Im a super sneaky ninja assassin. Traps are too scared to hit me.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6822|Greenwood, IN
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Why didn't anyone warn me that horses are suicidal.......................................
Brasso
member
+1,549|6847

good god storm mages hurt
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
FloppY_
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+1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

henhouck wrote:


how do you acquire those? 

also can you still join the companions even if you didnt help them out with the giant in the very beginning? I took the more scenic route to whiterun and did not help them
They don't give a fuck...

I keep trying to help them but never get to the giant before they kill it, then they badmouth me for not helping despite holding my sprint key since they rendered
Shoot.
It.
With.
An.
Arrow.

It only takes one.
It moves every time I fire one at it, lol... hard to hit something that changes direction like a spastic because 3 people are beating it at once, not to mention I try to make sure I don't hit the Companions because somehow holstering your weapon doesn't stop them beating your ass off in Skyrim >.>
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TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6656|Brisbane, Australia

https://i.imgur.com/Pxwp7.jpg
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FloppY_
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+1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell
I think that has been posted already timmah...
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Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6884

Ryan wrote:

I hate the random booby traps in the caves and dungeons. Walking along, step on a trick tile, then bam, hit by a swinging mace thing.
Avoid the circles of blood and the obvious bumps in the middle of paths.  So far, the only deadly ones are the spiked gates.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6884

@DrunkFace.  Yes, the UI sucks.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6754|Long Island, New York

Ilocano wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I hate the random booby traps in the caves and dungeons. Walking along, step on a trick tile, then bam, hit by a swinging mace thing.
Avoid the circles of blood and the obvious bumps in the middle of paths.  So far, the only deadly ones are the spiked gates.
Yeah, those are a pain in the ass. Lydia got killed by one of those when I first had her as a companion. Then I switched to Farkas, who is only slightly better even though he has decked out Dwarven gauntlets, boots and helmet as well as Dragonbone armor.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6955|Toronto | Canada

i got completely destroyed by one of those huge crossbow things once, 2 massive spears through my chest
FloppY_
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+1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell
Hmm.. I've been setting off traps sometimes just because I didn't care if they hit me... The ones in Nord Dungeons (the ones you fight Draugr in) barely hurt you enough to show on your health bar

Dwemer traps tho'... ouch....
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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6717|so randum
the traps that slam you into the ceiling are the best kind
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
FloppY_
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+1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

FatherTed wrote:

the traps that slam you into the ceiling are the best kind
Too bad they move so slow you have to be asleep to get squashed by it
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6988|PNW

FloppY_ wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

They don't give a fuck...

I keep trying to help them but never get to the giant before they kill it, then they badmouth me for not helping despite holding my sprint key since they rendered
Shoot.
It.
With.
An.
Arrow.

It only takes one.
It moves every time I fire one at it, lol... hard to hit something that changes direction like a spastic because 3 people are beating it at once, not to mention I try to make sure I don't hit the Companions because somehow holstering your weapon doesn't stop them beating your ass off in Skyrim >.>
Aim at his midsection. If you shoot him from any distance, it should work, but the best is about the five-to-ten meter mark from where the gal's standing. Could be you don't even have to hit him...just have your weapon drawn and firing. Approaching it from the "wilderness" seems to work better for me than the road.

It really isn't difficult at all. Create a save point somewhere nearby but outside critical range (where the giant can die) if you're still having problems. Get close (within "aggro," for lack of a better term, distance from the NPC's) and spam arrows.
FloppY_
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+1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Shoot.
It.
With.
An.
Arrow.

It only takes one.
It moves every time I fire one at it, lol... hard to hit something that changes direction like a spastic because 3 people are beating it at once, not to mention I try to make sure I don't hit the Companions because somehow holstering your weapon doesn't stop them beating your ass off in Skyrim >.>
Aim at his midsection. If you shoot him from any distance, it should work, but the best is about the five-to-ten meter mark from where the gal's standing. Could be you don't even have to hit him...just have your weapon drawn and firing. Approaching it from the "wilderness" seems to work better for me than the road.

It really isn't difficult at all. Create a save point somewhere nearby but outside critical range (where the giant can die) if you're still having problems. Get close (within "aggro," for lack of a better term, distance from the NPC's) and spam arrows.
I'm way past the point now (like, 30 levels)... I walked along the road so Mr. Big was pretty much dead by the time they rendered... Don't really care that much if I helped them or not, is there even a reward?..

Last edited by FloppY_ (2011-11-24 12:13:11)

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unnamednewbie13
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+2,053|6988|PNW

No and I think you can join the companions without doing it anyway.

It's still really easy to do if you sprint to destination.

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