coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6925|England. Stoke

War Man wrote:

coke wrote:

War Man wrote:


Fine for me, didn't have any trouble.

Edit: Oh, and I hate the panzer II as it has shit gun options.
Panzer 2 is an awesome tank, you just gotta use it right i.e. support/sniper tank.
I use it as an light assault tank considering that the autocannon is more of a close quarters type of weapon. I personally hate autocannons except for the Russian 37mm autocannon.
Ah lol I misread and mistyped lol, thought you meant Panther 2 lol.
Still saying that the Panzer 2 is still awesome once it's fully upgraded in evenly matched battles quite often you can dominate.
Sturgeon
Member
+488|5157|Flintshire
If you struggle for money get a tier 5 arty, my M41 makes me on average 25K profit a round.

The M12 not so much, T34 just loses money altogether lol
https://bf3s.com/sigs/3dda27c6d0d9b22836605b152b9d214b99507f91.png
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6925|England. Stoke

Sturgeon wrote:

If you struggle for money get a tier 5 arty, my M41 makes me on average 25K profit a round.
True 'dis I used to rake it in with my Hummel, although I don't play any arty any more, suppose I might get one, as a money maker to replace something and free up a slot for another tech tree
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin

coke wrote:

War Man wrote:

coke wrote:

Panzer 2 is an awesome tank, you just gotta use it right i.e. support/sniper tank.
I use it as an light assault tank considering that the autocannon is more of a close quarters type of weapon. I personally hate autocannons except for the Russian 37mm autocannon.
Ah lol I misread and mistyped lol, thought you meant Panther 2 lol.
Still saying that the Panzer 2 is still awesome once it's fully upgraded in evenly matched battles quite often you can dominate.
Only when in tier 3 or lower battles, usually get in battles with high tiers due to failmaking at work.

Edit: And that t50 has a high tier curse on it.

Last edited by War Man (2011-09-15 17:45:22)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6925|England. Stoke

War Man wrote:

coke wrote:

War Man wrote:


I use it as an light assault tank considering that the autocannon is more of a close quarters type of weapon. I personally hate autocannons except for the Russian 37mm autocannon.
Ah lol I misread and mistyped lol, thought you meant Panther 2 lol.
Still saying that the Panzer 2 is still awesome once it's fully upgraded in evenly matched battles quite often you can dominate.
Only when in tier 3 or lower battles, usually get in battles with high tiers due to failmaking at work.

Edit: And that t50 has a high tier curse on it.
In battles like that you must simply scout. Just keep moving, don't fire unless you have a good shot, you'll still get good "credit" for detecting.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin

coke wrote:

War Man wrote:

coke wrote:

Ah lol I misread and mistyped lol, thought you meant Panther 2 lol.
Still saying that the Panzer 2 is still awesome once it's fully upgraded in evenly matched battles quite often you can dominate.
Only when in tier 3 or lower battles, usually get in battles with high tiers due to failmaking at work.

Edit: And that t50 has a high tier curse on it.
In battles like that you must simply scout. Just keep moving, don't fire unless you have a good shot, you'll still get good "credit" for detecting.
Can't scout well with a shit starting engine and its upgraded engines happen to be different than other tanks so I have to do more grinding. Need more xp.

Last edited by War Man (2011-09-15 19:47:30)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6933|Riva, MD
Finally figured shit out, went for the tier 6 radio and now I make at least a thousand or two creds a around, and on occasion 900 if the team did fucking terrible.  Also enabled auto-repair after matching so I don't have to watch it go after I get it, lol.

Everything on my Panzer II is maxed out except I still don't have the tier 7 radio, but the Panzer III is expensive enough as it is so I'm just gonna skip it and go for that and then maybe get it with the Panzer III.

I can actually make a kill or two(sometimes three) every now and then with the Panzer II but I haven't figured many weak spots on anything at all: one successful hit, you think you've found a weak spot, the next one, you penetrate less than a virgin's penis.  Very obnoxious, I'm also constantly having my kills stolen when the target has like 6% left while I'm reloading, just the way the cookie crumbles I guess, can't say I haven't stolen a few myself already anyway.
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6655|Brisbane, Australia

_j5689_ wrote:

As it is, I only make like 1300 a round from the Light Tractor or whatever, unless we win, which almost NEVER happens.  Only time I ever made more than that was when I won a round with two kills, three damaging hits on enemy tanks, and a capture assist.  Almost not sure how I even pulled that off tbh

There's gotta be a better (free) way
By light tractor you mean the T1 German tank? Of course you dont make much money being crap in starter tanks. Tanks get more profitable up until tier 5 and then begin having higher repair/ammo costs. Everything up to T5 is easily profitable if you arent completely terrible even without premium. I dont see how spending $10 is so unreasonable, surely they deserve some kind of income for making a pretty fun game.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/5e6a35c97adb20771c7b713312c0307c23a7a36a.png
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6933|Riva, MD

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

As it is, I only make like 1300 a round from the Light Tractor or whatever, unless we win, which almost NEVER happens.  Only time I ever made more than that was when I won a round with two kills, three damaging hits on enemy tanks, and a capture assist.  Almost not sure how I even pulled that off tbh

There's gotta be a better (free) way
By light tractor you mean the T1 German tank? Of course you dont make much money being crap in starter tanks. Tanks get more profitable up until tier 5 and then begin having higher repair/ammo costs. Everything up to T5 is easily profitable if you arent completely terrible even without premium. I dont see how spending $10 is so unreasonable, surely they deserve some kind of income for making a pretty fun game.
Yeah, the T1 German tank thing.  And I also am starting to see that the Panzer II is much more profitable just by having a purpose as a radio scout.  I just initially thought that after the first round with the Panzer II, I made squat, but I either did the math wrong or really did make almost nothing at all from my team being so shit that round.  Only problem I have right now is that the credits can't come fast enough to get me to the 79.5K needed to get the Panzer III.  I really dislike having to use a tank that can only use automatic guns, I'd much rather make one solid noticeable hit than have to work with a gun that has to make hits in volume and still barely penetrates unless you're hitting a weak spot or a weak tank.  But it has to be done to progress the way I want to on the tank tree.

And it's not to say they don't deserve the money so much as the fact that I'm broke.  Even so, I would still feel get this dirty feeling buying stuff in a free to play game with real life currency although from the stuff I'm seeing that you can buy and just the way the game plays, everything is priced more fairly and works more balanced in the game with the exception of buying gold and just converting it into straight credits.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2011-09-15 21:18:40)

War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin
Now I'm loving the t50 ever since I equipped the 57mm cannon.

I dropped a panzer IV at full health down to zero by myself(guy was a fucking moron and wasn't shooting me, just looking at me)

Also killed a Panther at low health, my fun got spoiled when a fucking KV with a 152mm cannon shot me. I was hoping he would fire but I was planning on it being dodged by me, lucky bastard. I did do damage to the kv though, proud of that, shot his front armor and dropped 1/10 of his health with 1 shot.

Last edited by War Man (2011-09-16 07:25:07)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6925|England. Stoke

_j5689_ wrote:

I can actually make a kill or two(sometimes three) every now and then with the Panzer II but I haven't figured many weak spots on anything at all: one successful hit, you think you've found a weak spot, the next one, you penetrate less than a virgin's penis.  Very obnoxious, I'm also constantly having my kills stolen when the target has like 6% left while I'm reloading, just the way the cookie crumbles I guess, can't say I haven't stolen a few myself already anyway.
You don't get any more reward for an actual kill, just on how much damage you do, detecting the enemy (you get more if an enemy you have detected is damaged by allies), capping and defending your base. So if you kill an enemy tank that had 10% health left you will get the same reward in XP and credits as you would if you hit him at any time and did 10% damage, "stealing" kills doesn't matter.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6933|Riva, MD

coke wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

I can actually make a kill or two(sometimes three) every now and then with the Panzer II but I haven't figured many weak spots on anything at all: one successful hit, you think you've found a weak spot, the next one, you penetrate less than a virgin's penis.  Very obnoxious, I'm also constantly having my kills stolen when the target has like 6% left while I'm reloading, just the way the cookie crumbles I guess, can't say I haven't stolen a few myself already anyway.
You don't get any more reward for an actual kill, just on how much damage you do, detecting the enemy (you get more if an enemy you have detected is damaged by allies), capping and defending your base. So if you kill an enemy tank that had 10% health left you will get the same reward in XP and credits as you would if you hit him at any time and did 10% damage, "stealing" kills doesn't matter.
Maybe I just like to make actual kills just for the satisfaction of myself having done it, but I definitely didn't know about the points system for that.  I knew the way the spotting system worked just from googling what exactly the radio was supposed to do and why it was beneficial to upgrade, sure enough my income just about doubled after that Tier 6 radio upgrade.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin
Yeah, kills may not earn you any bonus xp, but they satisfy you.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin
Goddamn repair costs on t34 heavy plus getting a shit team every round.

Last edited by War Man (2011-09-16 09:23:35)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Sturgeon
Member
+488|5157|Flintshire
T-34 as in the russian med or T34 as in the US heavy?

If the latter, I feel your pain War Man, worth it when it gets made a premium tank though (I hope)
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin

Sturgeon wrote:

T-34 as in the russian med or T34 as in the US heavy?

If the latter, I feel your pain War Man, worth it when it gets made a premium tank though (I hope)
Edited my post when I forgot that there was a second t34(was too pissed to remember), the latter of course. Yes, too bad the t34 won't be made a premium for a fucking long time, even then I don't know how bad they(the devs) will nerf the t34. They tend to nerf things unnecessarily.

Last edited by War Man (2011-09-16 09:47:12)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6925|England. Stoke

War Man wrote:

Sturgeon wrote:

T-34 as in the russian med or T34 as in the US heavy?

If the latter, I feel your pain War Man, worth it when it gets made a premium tank though (I hope)
Edited my post when I forgot that there was a second t34(was too pissed to remember), the latter of course. Yes, too bad the t34 won't be made a premium for a fucking long time, even then I don't know how bad they(the devs) will nerf the t34. They tend to nerf things unnecessarily.
It will be nerfed when made a premium, but it's necessary a premium tank tank that good with the credit making ratio of a premium tank would totally unbalance things.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin

coke wrote:

War Man wrote:

Sturgeon wrote:

T-34 as in the russian med or T34 as in the US heavy?

If the latter, I feel your pain War Man, worth it when it gets made a premium tank though (I hope)
Edited my post when I forgot that there was a second t34(was too pissed to remember), the latter of course. Yes, too bad the t34 won't be made a premium for a fucking long time, even then I don't know how bad they(the devs) will nerf the t34. They tend to nerf things unnecessarily.
It will be nerfed when made a premium, but it's necessary a premium tank tank that good with the credit making ratio of a premium tank would totally unbalance things.
I know, but how bad of a nerf? How will it compare to the lowe or kv5? Will it keep its 120mm?

Last edited by War Man (2011-09-16 10:10:57)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Sturgeon
Member
+488|5157|Flintshire
I think they'll make it the equivalent of a tier 8 tank so pretty much the same as a Lowe/KV5
https://bf3s.com/sigs/3dda27c6d0d9b22836605b152b9d214b99507f91.png
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6925|England. Stoke

Sturgeon wrote:

I think they'll make it the equivalent of a tier 8 tank so pretty much the same as a Lowe/KV5
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin
How will they balance it though is basically what I'm saying? Decrease health, lower rate of fire of the 120mm(it'd be stupid of them to get the 105mm)? What is the max speed and horsepower?

Last edited by War Man (2011-09-16 14:37:58)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6655|Brisbane, Australia

It is supposedly changing from a Heavy to a TD when that happens, so less HP and less turret traverse at the very least.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/5e6a35c97adb20771c7b713312c0307c23a7a36a.png
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5574|London, England
So I take it that this game doesn't follow historical accuracy at all?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6925|England. Stoke

Jay wrote:

So I take it that this game doesn't follow historical accuracy at all?
Not really, there are plenty of real tanks, but also plenty of "blueprint only" and prototype ones. Think they will be doing "historical battles" though where only real tanks from correct time periods etc. will be playable.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

It is supposedly changing from a Heavy to a TD when that happens, so less HP and less turret traverse at the very least.
That's the t30, not the T34.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

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