Ehhhhhh,
I'll be waiting for fucking weeks to play this game if I buy it from ozgame....
.......is 2 weeks of HELL worth 30 dowlah!?
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
I'll be waiting for fucking weeks to play this game if I buy it from ozgame....
.......is 2 weeks of HELL worth 30 dowlah!?
Why two weeks?
It's coming from the other side of the world?Jaekus wrote:
Why two weeks?
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
- globefish23
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Over at the Steam forums, two user contacted EA support chat, and were told that BF3 will also be released on Steam.
If those users are to be believed, then this is a good sign.
http://i56.tinypic.com/maylb9.png
http://i52.tinypic.com/6st5df.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/346ojy9.jpg
Hopefully this means that it's a standalone Steam release, not additionally requiring Origin too, like all the GFWL games on Steam.
If those users are to be believed, then this is a good sign.
http://i56.tinypic.com/maylb9.png
http://i52.tinypic.com/6st5df.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/346ojy9.jpg
Hopefully this means that it's a standalone Steam release, not additionally requiring Origin too, like all the GFWL games on Steam.
Oh, I thought it was localCheez wrote:
It's coming from the other side of the world?Jaekus wrote:
Why two weeks?
I might look at eBay a week before the release. I picked up BFBC2 on eBay, Limited Edition, paid for 3 days before the release date, posted from the Gold Coast for $46 inc. postage. Arrived the day after release.
BF3 will be availible on Steam if the company agrees to the terms set forth by EA. EA wants full control over distribution of content for its new games especially a game as big as BF3 is projected to be. Before this topic there were many topics asking for mod tools. We all know that isn't going to happen because less people will buy DLC if unlimited free content, better than what the developers is making, is being distributed. Just look at Euro Forces and Armored Fury for BF2. During its best days maybe 10 servers were populated out of 4000+.
Last edited by Evil_Black_Fox (2011-07-24 16:20:15)
sauce?
EA Policy on Selling Games on Third-Party Download Sitesjsnipy wrote:
sauce?
At EA, we believe in choice. We want our products in all the places gamers go to download the best games and services. To that end, we offer games to EVERY major download service including Amazon, Walmart, Gamestop, and Steam.
One of the most exciting aspects of games is that they just keep getting bigger and better. Both developers and consumers have evolved beyond the traditional model that used to limit us to 15-20 hours of play on a typical disc. Today, post-launch downloads of new maps, vehicles and other content extend the experience, adding hours of fun and a lot of value.
Every download site that hosts our games sets business terms for our relationship. These terms are often complex, but the goal is to provide a hassle-free experience for the gamer. Prices, content exclusives, and loyalty programs may differ from site to site. Consumers can pick the site that bests suits their needs.
Any retailer can sell our games, but we take direct responsibility for providing patches, updates, additional content and other services for the individuals and communities that play our games. These players are connecting to our servers, so we want to provide them with the very best service. This works well for our partnership with Gamestop, Amazon and other online retailers.
However, when a download service forbids publishers from contacting players with patches, new levels, items and other services – it disrupts our ability to provide the ongoing support players expect from us. At present, this is the case with only one download service. While EA offers its entire portfolio to this site, they have elected to not post many of our games. We hope to find a mutually agreeable solution to this issue soon.
Going forward, EA will continue to work with download partners and continue offering our games for sale on all major download sites.
The good news is: you’ve got plenty of choices.
Basically EA didn't pull anything from Steam. Steam dumped their products because they don't like EA's terms. Here is your sauce:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06 … -decision/
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Steam- … 13054.html
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/07/21/ea-st … on-origin/
http://www.gamefront.com/ea-pulls-crysi … igin-only/
Last edited by Evil_Black_Fox (2011-07-24 16:36:07)
Seeing that Origin seems to be mandatory, I´m not even sure I´m gonna miss steam.
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- +334|6551|Graz, Austria
Knowing EA, they probably wanted direct control over Gaben's secret pizza vault. You don't do that.Evil_Black_Fox wrote:
Basically EA didn't pull anything from Steam. Steam dumped their products because they don't like EA's terms.
tldr Steam wish for EA not to be able to sell the DLC for a game purchased on steam, anywhere but steam...
read a full article here: http://games.on.net/article/13302/The_D … Lock_Horns
read a full article here: http://games.on.net/article/13302/The_D … Lock_Horns
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
Could you use EA Downloader DLC in a Steam game?
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Or it could be that Steam and Origin are direct competitors.tazz. wrote:
tldr Steam wish for EA not to be able to sell the DLC for a game purchased on steam, anywhere but steam...
read a full article here: http://games.on.net/article/13302/The_D … Lock_Horns
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Tried EA's Origin with the BF3 Alpha.
Origin sucked syphilitic donkey dong.
Uninstalled both.
Buggy, laggy, slow. Like a half-assed attempt at a WebKit derived Steam copycat, as done by a hung-over intern, in 45 minutes, on a Monday morning before the 9:00am conference call.
I'm sure I've picked up dogshit with printouts of better code than Origin.
Origin sucked syphilitic donkey dong.
Uninstalled both.
Buggy, laggy, slow. Like a half-assed attempt at a WebKit derived Steam copycat, as done by a hung-over intern, in 45 minutes, on a Monday morning before the 9:00am conference call.
I'm sure I've picked up dogshit with printouts of better code than Origin.
- globefish23
- sophisticated slacker
- +334|6551|Graz, Austria
This.FEOS wrote:
Or it could be that Steam and Origin are direct competitors.
IMO, it's EA's own fault or lack of foresight to establish their own online distribution sytem that does not suck.
Valve, apart from their own games, only live from distributing 3rd party ones, so it's understandable that they try to increase their share from the pie.
Seeing the recent implementation of a handful of F2P/microtransaction games which allow payments via your Steam Wallet, this seems to confirm this.
The whole BF3 Alpha experience has been unpleasant thus far, all around.rdx-fx wrote:
Tried EA's Origin with the BF3 Alpha.
Origin sucked syphilitic donkey dong.
Uninstalled both.
Buggy, laggy, slow. Like a half-assed attempt at a WebKit derived Steam copycat, as done by a hung-over intern, in 45 minutes, on a Monday morning before the 9:00am conference call.
I'm sure I've picked up dogshit with printouts of better code than Origin.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Obviously why EA don't want to have their DLC limited to JUST steam fi the game is bought on steam.FEOS wrote:
Or it could be that Steam and Origin are direct competitors.tazz. wrote:
tldr Steam wish for EA not to be able to sell the DLC for a game purchased on steam, anywhere but steam...
read a full article here: http://games.on.net/article/13302/The_D … Lock_Horns
Fucking hurr durr....... that part was obvious -.-
anyway, no BF3 on steam confirmed
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/06/battl … e-restric/
EA's big holiday release, Battlefield 3, apparently won't be available via Valve's ubiquitous PC game download service, Steam, as previously hinted. Taking to Twitter and its own forums, EA announced as much with some interesting, if not inflammatory, claims. "BF3 will not be available on Steam as the service restricts our ability to directly support players," the Twitter account says.
The forum post goes a bit further in explaining the publisher's position, though it doesn't go so far as to explicitly explain the schism. "Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content," the forum post reads. "No other download service has adopted these practices." As with Dragon Age 2, this is in reference to one specific part of Steam's Terms of Service agreement, which forces games to deliver DLC and patches through Steam rather than through a game-specific client. EA claims this to be restrictive, and thus refuses to sell some titles through the service.
It remains unclear why EA -- who, in the past, has offered a variety of games through Steam, regardless of the Terms of Service -- refuses to offer DLC and patches through Steam suddenly, but it certainly appears to be a stance the company is staying firm on. The forum post also notes EA's inclination towards resolving the issue with Valve, saying, "We hope to work out an agreement where Steam can carry Battlefield 3; meanwhile, gamers can pick from the more than 100 digital retailers."
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
By directly support players, they really mean. We want to fleece them for as much money as they have, because we're greedy fucks.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
welcome to business.UnkleRukus wrote:
By directly support players, they really mean. We want to fleece them for as much money as they have, because we're greedy fucks.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
I work in retail, thanks for telling me something I already know dawg.tazz. wrote:
welcome to business.UnkleRukus wrote:
By directly support players, they really mean. We want to fleece them for as much money as they have, because we're greedy fucks.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
What I was getting at was that EA could have pulled out in preparation to put all their support behind Origin and to attempt to sully Steam's rep a bit in the process, hoping to boost Origin's market share.tazz. wrote:
Obviously why EA don't want to have their DLC limited to JUST steam fi the game is bought on steam.FEOS wrote:
Or it could be that Steam and Origin are direct competitors.tazz. wrote:
tldr Steam wish for EA not to be able to sell the DLC for a game purchased on steam, anywhere but steam...
read a full article here: http://games.on.net/article/13302/The_D … Lock_Horns
Fucking hurr durr....... that part was obvious -.-
anyway, no BF3 on steam confirmed
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/06/battl … e-restric/EA's big holiday release, Battlefield 3, apparently won't be available via Valve's ubiquitous PC game download service, Steam, as previously hinted. Taking to Twitter and its own forums, EA announced as much with some interesting, if not inflammatory, claims. "BF3 will not be available on Steam as the service restricts our ability to directly support players," the Twitter account says.
The forum post goes a bit further in explaining the publisher's position, though it doesn't go so far as to explicitly explain the schism. "Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content," the forum post reads. "No other download service has adopted these practices." As with Dragon Age 2, this is in reference to one specific part of Steam's Terms of Service agreement, which forces games to deliver DLC and patches through Steam rather than through a game-specific client. EA claims this to be restrictive, and thus refuses to sell some titles through the service.
It remains unclear why EA -- who, in the past, has offered a variety of games through Steam, regardless of the Terms of Service -- refuses to offer DLC and patches through Steam suddenly, but it certainly appears to be a stance the company is staying firm on. The forum post also notes EA's inclination towards resolving the issue with Valve, saying, "We hope to work out an agreement where Steam can carry Battlefield 3; meanwhile, gamers can pick from the more than 100 digital retailers."
But I thought that was hurr durr obvious...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Steam sucks arse, everything I buy/DL from there doesn't work.
This reeks of the same thing.
If I was in any way paranoid, I'd be wondering if it was a plot by console vendors to get rid of the PC gaming market.
Why is it impossible to by a PC game these days without installing some kind of malware on your machine?
This reeks of the same thing.
If I was in any way paranoid, I'd be wondering if it was a plot by console vendors to get rid of the PC gaming market.
Why is it impossible to by a PC game these days without installing some kind of malware on your machine?
It's called DRM and the industry thinks DRM works.cospengle wrote:
Steam sucks arse, everything I buy/DL from there doesn't work.
This reeks of the same thing.
If I was in any way paranoid, I'd be wondering if it was a plot by console vendors to get rid of the PC gaming market.
Why is it impossible to by a PC game these days without installing some kind of malware on your machine?
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
if you cant get steam games to work you probably shouldnt be on a pc
My experience has been the opposite since 2003. While whatever negatives exists for online distribution services in general, those negatives have been few and far between with Steam vs others.cospengle wrote:
Steam sucks arse, everything I buy/DL from there doesn't work.
This reeks of the same thing.
If I was in any way paranoid, I'd be wondering if it was a plot by console vendors to get rid of the PC gaming market.
Why is it impossible to by a PC game these days without installing some kind of malware on your machine?
Honestly with BF3 I'm going to take a wait and see attitude.