has there even been a ps3 vs. 360 thread in like 2 years? ...Miggle wrote:
ITT: PSN Has a problem, 360 kids who always say "Stay out of my thread with your anti-xbox whining" come in with anti PS3 whining.FatherTed wrote:
hear ye, hear ye, god of the gaming MIGGLE has come down to give us the following information;Miggle wrote:
ITT: Idiots.
seriously you could be less of a vague aspie twat in your post jus' sayin
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Wow. Um, shit?
Checking your own credit report is considered a 'soft inquiry' and doesn't affect your credit rating.eleven bravo wrote:
thats bad for your credit scoreaerodynamic wrote:
i check my credit report like once a week, you can never be sure.
http://www.equifax.com/credit-informati … t-glossary
Soft Inquiry:
An instance in which your credit report is accessed without affecting your credit rating. Soft inquiries include your own requests for your credit report, promotional inquiries by credit card companies, and "checkup" inquiries by your existing creditors. Compare hard inquiry.
Hard Inquiry:
An indication on your credit file that a lender has obtained a copy of the report in order to evaluate your loan or credit application. An excess of hard inquiries within a six-month period may lower your credit rating.
Credit cards definitely have their place. When traveling or purchasing large ticket items, items over the phone or on the internet. Credit cards provide you with a level or protection that doesn't exist with cash, checks or money orders. You can also prove ownership with a statement or transaction record in the event you have a theft or fire and need to prove to your insurer what item(s) you owned. Some credit cards even extended the warranty of the item you purchased. Many offer rewards (cash back, store credit, gift cards) that can really add up. As long as you get one with no fees and pay it off monthly it doesn't cost you anything. The credit cards companies still make their money. They charge the store/company a fee for every credit card transaction. That's why they offer you the incentives like cash back, store credit and gift cards to get you to use your card for as many transactions as possible. There's plenty of money in just the transaction fees, when they add in those who pay monthly interest they're really making a killing. Because of these transaction fees some stores/companies offer a 'cash discount' of 3 to 4%, which actually violates some credit card processing agreements.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
i don't even own a credit card anymore. mortgage/car loan is enough fucking debt to worry about.
Many debit cards can be run as credit, but since they're linked to your checking account I treat them different and never use them for phone or internet orders. I also don't use a debit card in situations in which my card leaves my site, like bars and restaurants.
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I've been reading comments on other message boards from people who want Sony to give them a free PSN game or something to make up for the outage. Fucking leeches I swear. It's a free service, they owe you nothing. Outages happen anyway.
I admit though I almost went to the store to pick up a single player game but this went and happened instead
I admit though I almost went to the store to pick up a single player game but this went and happened instead
Yeah no shit. People always expect something for free. If it was a paid service, like XBL, it'd definitely be a bigger issue. I suspect some PSN users will stop using their credit card for PSN Store purchases and start purchasing the Amazon codes or PSN cards from their local stores.Macbeth wrote:
I've been reading comments on other message boards from people who want Sony to give them a free PSN game or something to make up for the outage. Fucking leeches I swear. It's a free service, they owe you nothing. Outages happen anyway.
If I would have bought a 360 instead of the PS3 the XBL fees would have already cost me about $132. That's more than 2 full price games in 3-years. I can live with the service being down for a week or so.... I'll just load more ammo
I bought an xbox a few months ago and only played it twice. In the short time span I played it I can honestly say the PSN community >>>>>> XBL community. You would have to pay me to play on that network tbh.west-phoenix-az wrote:
If I would have bought a 360 instead of the PS3 the XBL fees would have already cost me about $132.
Still seems like there are more of the annoying little bastards.
This sucks, I recently got Killzone 3, and I'm dieing to try the multiplayer.
I find this whole "hacker/geohotz/anonymous vs. Sony" thing retarded. Both sides are fighting a war neither side is going to win, and in the meantime it fucks with loyal PSN users and customers with downtime and security breaches. The hackers need to move on, and Sony needs to fix their network and its security problems, period.
As for the XBL/PSN debate, I personally prefer having less users with mics in games, as I don't have to hear as many little kids and spend the time muting them.
I find this whole "hacker/geohotz/anonymous vs. Sony" thing retarded. Both sides are fighting a war neither side is going to win, and in the meantime it fucks with loyal PSN users and customers with downtime and security breaches. The hackers need to move on, and Sony needs to fix their network and its security problems, period.
As for the XBL/PSN debate, I personally prefer having less users with mics in games, as I don't have to hear as many little kids and spend the time muting them.
Nope, it's actually a development group. The group the media perceive as "anon" actually have nothing to do with this one.HaiBai wrote:
nice job anon
And people though piracy on the PC was bad. x_xTopHat01 wrote:
I find this whole "hacker/geohotz/anonymous vs. Sony" thing retarded. Both sides are fighting a war neither side is going to win, and in the meantime it fucks with loyal PSN users and customers with downtime and security breaches.
I lol'd at geohotz getting swat through his windows... twice.
Also this:
Source (lol reddit)I'm a moderator over at PSX-Scene.com - The real reason PSN is down. wrote:
Ok, I've seen a bunch of speculation of why people think PSN is down, and I thought I should just post what the community knows in comparison to what Sony is telling everyone. The truth is, there was a new CFW (custom firmware) released known as Rebug (http://rebug.me). It essentially turns a retail console into a dev console (not fully, but gives you a lot of the same options that usually dev's only have access to). Anyway, this new CFW was quickly figured out by 3rd parties (not Rebug) to give CFW users access to the PSN network again via the dev networks. With a little manipulation of the URL's through a proxy server you could get your hacked console back online. Not that big of a deal, right? Well, it also turns out that some people over at NGU found out that you could provide fake CC# info and the authenticity of the information was never checked as you were on Sony's private developer PSN network (essentially a network that Sony trusted). What happened next was extreme piracy of PSN content. Sony realizing the issue here shut down the network. Now, before you go freaking out about the latest information posted about Kotaku, no ones personal information was accessible via this hack. Not to say they couldn't get it, but no one is admitting to it being available. Anyway, that's the real reason for the PSN downtime. Sony is now rebuilding all of it's PSN servers to be more secure and (hopefully) make sure the CFW users cannot get online anymore.
Edit #1: To those of you saying that this is speculation, you are correct. But, it is speculation based on a lot of facts and the outcome seems to make the most sense.
1. Rebug was released on 3/31/11.
2. First guides of how to use the dev network to get back on COD games on 4/3/11. 3. Word of "shady" sites finding a way to pirate PSN content via the dev networks on 4/7/11 (basing this on posts I had to delete on the website). 4. PSN goes down on 4/20/11
Now, you can believe Sony's PR team which has kept you completely in the dark, or you can see the list of events above and come to your own conclusion. Now, this isn't the first time Sony has fought back against the PS3 modders from getting on PSN. A couple of months ago we had a utility called f*ckPSN that changed the necessary header information that was being sent to Sony to allow modified consoles back online. We were able to use it for about a month. Then came the new TOS, the mass e-mail to PS3 customers, and software update 3.56 and 3.60. So, once again, yes this is all speculation, but it is speculation based on previous actions and known facts.
Edit #2: Mathieulh just mentioned that he has been in contact with someone that has official access to the SCE devnet servers and it was posted to them today that only 3.60+ debug firmwares will be allowed on the dev network anymore. All earlier versions will be cut. If you want to retain your access you need to contact Sony and upgrade to 3.60 debug firmware.
Edit #3: Ok, it looks like some various news sites have picked up this story and taken it out of context. Once again, this is all speculation and information gathered from various devs in the PS3 scene. It might very well not be the real reason PSN is down, but as the timeline fits, it's a reasonable explanation. Now, as to Rebug directly allowing this to happen, that's not the case at all. Different CFW's have had access to the dev network the whole time. This is not new news for people in the PS3 scene. It's what people have figured out what to do with the said network that has caused all the recent issues. Saying that Rebug is what did this is like saying a gun manufacturer is responsible for every death that happens with a gun.
Edit #4: Looks like Sony is finally admitting that people have been able to get into their network and users personal info has possibly be compromised. See: Official Sony Blog for the latest update.
This was posted a couple of days ago now, prior to the press release by sony.
Overall, it's pretty fucking derp, and surprising that a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
watOverall, it's pretty fucking derp, and surprising that a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.
Security breaches happen all the time...
credit card information?Macbeth wrote:
watOverall, it's pretty fucking derp, and surprising that a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.
Security breaches happen all the time...
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
and surprising that a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.
Just nitpicking about the whole "it's surprising that a company got breached" thing. Off the top of my head I also rememberthat a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/158003/m … orted.htmlA payment processor responsible for handling about 100 million credit card transactions every month disclosed today that thieves had used malicious software in its network in 2008 to steal an unknown number of credit card numbers.
The company's information site on the incident, http://2008breach.com/, attempts to downplay the loss of data by asserting that no Social Security numbers, unencrypted PINs or other types of data were stolen.
It's not uncommon that's all.
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Total anarchy
Saying that I'm surprised sony had a breach does not warrant that I said that the cases are uncommon. You are inadvertently drawing conclusions based on slight connotations.Macbeth wrote:
and surprising that a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.Just nitpicking about the whole "it's surprising that a company got breached" thing. Off the top of my head I also rememberthat a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.http://www.pcworld.com/article/158003/m … orted.htmlA payment processor responsible for handling about 100 million credit card transactions every month disclosed today that thieves had used malicious software in its network in 2008 to steal an unknown number of credit card numbers.
The company's information site on the incident, http://2008breach.com/, attempts to downplay the loss of data by asserting that no Social Security numbers, unencrypted PINs or other types of data were stolen.
It's not uncommon that's all.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
Sure I am.
How is it surprising that the video game division of a hardware company got breached when you admit that data breaches (especially those that occur to data firms who are entrusted to protect said data) are not uncommon?Overall, it's pretty fucking derp, and surprising that a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.
It is surprising that sony had such a breach. The extent of the breach is what surprises me, for sony.Macbeth wrote:
Sure I am.How is it surprising that the video game division of a hardware company got breached when you admit that data breaches (especially those that occur to data firms who are entrusted to protect said data) are not uncommon?Overall, it's pretty fucking derp, and surprising that a corporation such as sony has had such a breach.
I did not say, or intent do imply that they are uncommon among other divisions.
Again, You are inadvertently drawing conclusions based on slight connotations.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
when something happens once every 3 years i wouldnt exactly say its common
It happens more frequently on data that is not from a business as powerful (well funded) as sony.Winston_Churchill wrote:
when something happens once every 3 years i wouldnt exactly say its common
This is exactly why, for me, it is surprising. for sony.
x_x
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
as in something on this scale. definitely not common
exactly.Winston_Churchill wrote:
as in something on this scale. definitely not common
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
http://www.privacyrights.org/data-breach/newWinston_Churchill wrote:
as in something on this scale. definitely not common
200 != millions.Macbeth wrote:
http://www.privacyrights.org/data-breach/newWinston_Churchill wrote:
as in something on this scale. definitely not common
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥