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2009-05-12 10:47:51

#326

Snake: Missing, Presumed Dead; +1,046|6783|England

I bet they wouldnt be saying that if they were leading the constructors and/or drivers championships this year.

If £40m is not enough for them to design their car...I wonder what it actually costs them? Holy hell.

TBH, why not just have an unlimited budget, but have an incremental affect on constructors points at the end of the season. For instance, if a team built a car for under £40m, they would have a constructors multiplier of x1 (i.e. as they are). If another team built a car for £50m, they might get a multiplier of x0.9 (i.e. 100 points x 0.9 = 90points).

This would allow budgets of whatever, but provide an incentive for designing at a lower cost to get maximum points out of the constructors, because, afterall, the constructors is a reflection of the design and build of the car, team effort, reliability, etc etc.

2009-05-12 10:49:44

#327

Kez: Member; +778|5921|London, UK

They threatened to do the same thing when the FIA were thinking of having the same engines in each car

2009-05-12 11:09:23

#328

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6867

What the fuck is this bullshit? I assume Sky are just printing bollocks as usual.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- … mpionship_

2009-05-12 11:11:00

#329

Kez: Member; +778|5921|London, UK

Yeah Sky are saying they've properly given up next year, which they haven't.

2009-05-12 11:12:45

#330

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6867

Seriously, Sky are such a fucking shit excuse for a media company.

2009-05-13 08:49:55

#331

CammRobb: Banned; +1,510|6348|Carnoustie MASSIF

Renault threaten to pull out...

BBC wrote:

Renault are the latest high-profile team threatening to quit Formula 1 unless proposals to adopt a £40m budget cap in 2010 are shelved.
On Tuesday, Ferrari joined Toyota and Red Bull in declaring their intention to pull out of F1 because of the plans.
And Renault boss Flavio Briatore has adopted a similar stance.
"If the decisions announced by the FIA are not revised, we have no choice but to withdraw from the world championship at the end of 2009," he said.
The FIA, the sport's governing body, want an optional £40m budget cap in order to encourage new teams to enter.
The plan would allow capped teams to operate with far greater technical freedom than those continuing with unlimited budgets.

Edit: Source

Last edited by SirSchloppy (2009-05-13 08:50:22)

2009-05-13 16:13:19

#332

maxwell777: Member; +27|6484|Doncaster, UK

Just to lighten the f1 mood atm...

Great fall.

I like schumis reaction, more like lack of.

2009-05-13 16:59:11

#333

CammRobb: Banned; +1,510|6348|Carnoustie MASSIF

maxwell777 wrote:
Just to lighten the f1 mood atm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yePx6BbpEsc

Great fall.

I like schumis reaction, more like lack of.

I could watch this for hours.

2009-05-14 07:49:30

#334

eskimo_sammyjoe: Did someone say tea?; +112|6452|S.A. Australia

I highly doubt Ferrari would pull out of F1...they get sooo much recognition and brand support out of it.

Serious Flex

2009-05-14 09:44:05

#335

Snake: Missing, Presumed Dead; +1,046|6783|England

eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
I highly doubt Ferrari would pull out of F1...they get sooo much recognition and brand support out of it.

Id be surprised if the current rules arent changed...with 5 teams now threatening to pull out, something has to be done. Had it been just 1 team, I think the FIA would have been like "ahh well, cya"

2009-05-14 11:48:45

#336

maxwell777: Member; +27|6484|Doncaster, UK

SirSchloppy wrote:
maxwell777 wrote:
Just to lighten the f1 mood atm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yePx6BbpEsc

Great fall.

I like schumis reaction, more like lack of.
I could watch this for hours.

I have.

2009-05-14 14:21:08

#337

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6711|N. Ireland

Lola stepping forward!

http://www.lola-group.com/newsstory.asp?NewsId=54

2009-05-14 14:21:31

#338

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6850

I WANT ASTON MARTIN

2009-05-14 14:23:33

#339

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6839|London, England

You know I wouldn't mind if Ferrari quit, if it means all these classic teams returning lol

Nah but really it would suck without Ferrari

2009-05-14 14:24:12

#340

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6850

Ferrari are like the heart of F1... They can't leave

2009-05-14 14:26:38

#341

TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6791

I dont expect Ferrari, or anyone else for that matter to leave F1...unless for monetary reasons. The FIA always come with some wierd off the wall shit and when FOTA balks, the FIA backpeddle.

We'll see what happens, but truly, I think this is all a bunch of BS imvho.

But you take away the budget cap, and we'll be back to 20 or 22 cars, few if any new teams. These recent announcements were due to the proposed cap. This cap seems to be the big sticking point.
No cap, we keep the current teams, with cap, we may lose a few, and gain a few...time will tell.

Last edited by TC.Troy (2009-05-14 14:28:40)

2009-05-14 14:38:02

#342

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6711|N. Ireland

Gooners wrote:
I WANT ASTON MARTIN

Lola are Aston Martin..

2009-05-14 15:20:56

#343

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6950|St. Andrews / Oslo

kylef wrote:
Lola stepping forward!

http://www.lola-group.com/newsstory.asp?NewsId=54

great news!

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png

2009-05-14 15:22:11

#344

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6850

kylef wrote:
Gooners wrote:
I WANT ASTON MARTIN
Lola are Aston Martin..

wait what

2009-05-14 15:27:34

#345

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6950|St. Andrews / Oslo

Gooners wrote:
kylef wrote:
Gooners wrote:
I WANT ASTON MARTIN
Lola are Aston Martin..
wait what

I believe Lola is like the racing division of Aston Martin (kinda like McLaren is for Mercedes)

2009-05-14 15:29:36

#346

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6850

Jenspm wrote:
Gooners wrote:
kylef wrote:

Lola are Aston Martin..
wait what
I believe Lola is like the racing division of Aston Martin (kinda like McLaren is for Mercedes)

Really? I had no idea... Specially because they are separate teams in the Le Mans thinger. (thatrite?)

2009-05-14 15:33:15

#347

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6950|St. Andrews / Oslo

Gooners wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
Gooners wrote:

wait what
I believe Lola is like the racing division of Aston Martin (kinda like McLaren is for Mercedes)
Really? I had no idea... Specially because they are separate teams in the Le Mans thinger. (thatrite?)

Isn't the Le Mans car called Lola-Aston Martin?

after wiki'ing, Lola seems to be a private racing car company that have used different engines, but are atm using Aston Martin. So I guess it's comparable to Super Aguri, Force India, Red Bull, Torro Rosso, Brawn, etc; but they're not only in F1.

2009-05-14 15:42:37

#348

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6850

Jenspm wrote:
Gooners wrote:
Jenspm wrote:

I believe Lola is like the racing division of Aston Martin (kinda like McLaren is for Mercedes)
Really? I had no idea... Specially because they are separate teams in the Le Mans thinger. (thatrite?)
Isn't the Le Mans car called Lola-Aston Martin?

after wiki'ing, Lola seems to be a private racing car company that have used different engines, but are atm using Aston Martin. So I guess it's comparable to Super Aguri, Force India, Red Bull, Torro Rosso, Brawn, etc; but they're not only in F1.

Yeah, confused me D:

2009-05-16 08:20:35

#349

TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6791

Whoa...
The shit is about to hit the fan...fans

Ferrari take the FIA to court:
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954, … 60,00.html

good lord...like we need this bullshit after the way this season has unfolded.

AND...

Brawn have KERS at last:
http://www.f1technical.net/news/12422?s … ea7caf74e8

On the surface, this sounds like "too good to be true"...but think about what this could do to the car as it relates to balance and sheer drivability.
What would you do? You've already a car that runs Very well, do you keep it as is? Or do you run KERS, which could adversely affect the handling on the car, and or reliability?
Tough choice imo, but I'm sure Mr. Brawn will figure it out.

And for you Mek, just because I think you're special (:p ) ... wait for it... Go Brawn!

2009-05-16 08:22:35

#350

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6839|London, England

boo brawn

Everybody just likes them cos they're winning, if they were still Honda I'd be like fuck yeah, but cos it's Brawn and that idiot Branson is involved it's thumbs down for me

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