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2009-04-22 15:49:11

#276

TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6791

Mekstizzle wrote:
TC.Troy wrote:
Lola looking to make an F1 return?

This, from F1 technical:
http://www.f1technical.net/news/12210?s … amp;vo=145

Back in the day (60's and 70's) these guys had some really quick cars that were also quite unique. I should look forward to them returning, always nice to have fresh blood in a series.
Now to convince everyone else to accept and stick to a $30,000,000.00 cap...
hold the phone there johnny we're still waiting for USF1 (or whatever the team name is) to come into the slaughterhouse

indeed, it could very well be. but really...don't you see those team principles watching what Brawn are doing right now? they are learning from example. not from Ross, but from...well, kinda like a "how too" on running a successfull F1 team on a budget. add to that, they are watching the rules for 2010 very, very carefully (see again BrawnGP...09' car sorta in late 08'...get it? :p ).
it should be interesting at least...perhaps if not singularly for the purpose of comic relief (aka Ferrari 09'...omg lol).

2009-04-22 20:26:33

#277

eskimo_sammyjoe: Did someone say tea?; +112|6452|S.A. Australia

Plus Prodrive were looking into getting an F1 team up and running for next year too if I remember rightly.

Serious Flex

2009-04-26 13:55:24

#278

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6950|St. Andrews / Oslo

eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
Plus Prodrive were looking into getting an F1 team up and running for next year too if I remember rightly.

ya, maybe even with Aston Martin

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png

2009-04-26 13:56:15

#279

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6850

Jenspm wrote:
eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
Plus Prodrive were looking into getting an F1 team up and running for next year too if I remember rightly.
ya, maybe even with Aston Martin

Holy Fucking AWSM if that happens.

2009-04-26 14:08:22

#280

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6664|Amsterdam‫

and lola

https://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/menzo2003/fredbf2.png

2009-04-26 14:09:16

#281

csmag: Member; +92|6664|Canada

An Aston Martin team would tickle my fancy.

2009-04-26 14:09:48

#282

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6850

csmag wrote:
An Aston Martin team would tickle my fancy.

it would tickle my fucking scrotum

2009-04-26 14:11:33

#283

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6767|UK

Gooners wrote:
csmag wrote:
An Aston Martin team would tickle my fancy.
it would tickle my fucking scrotum

Defecting already mistar beee emmm?

2009-04-26 14:13:16

#284

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6850

Bell wrote:
Gooners wrote:
csmag wrote:
An Aston Martin team would tickle my fancy.
it would tickle my fucking scrotum
Defecting already mistar beee emmm?

i go both ways

2009-04-26 14:15:26

#285

csmag: Member; +92|6664|Canada

Gooners wrote:
Bell wrote:
Gooners wrote:

it would tickle my fucking scrotum
Defecting already mistar beee emmm?
i go both ways

2009-04-29 04:12:55

#286

TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6791

Judgement day for McLaren. Its reported that Mr. Whitmarsh has gone to Paris alone, without even so much as a lawyer. Throwing himself at the feet of the court, so to say.

What say you?
2 race ban?
monetary fine?
exclusion?
a combination of the above?

Daimler/Benz have made their position clear, as well as McLaren's other sponsors...with good reason and effect I think.
The waiting is almost over, without a doubt this will be a big wieght from the teams shoulders, simply to have it finished.

A 3 strike rule is being mulled as well...I think I dont like that for it could have massive implications in the future.

2009-04-29 04:13:51

#287

Kez: Member; +778|5921|London, UK

Already been decided.

Spoiler (highlight to read):
3 race suspension

2009-04-29 04:27:59

#288

TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6791

Kptk92 wrote:
Already been decided.

Spoiler (highlight to read):
3 race suspension

hehe

Kp...its a suspended 3 race ban...not a 3 race suspension

2009-04-29 04:29:28

#289

Kez: Member; +778|5921|London, UK

There's no difference, is there?

2009-04-29 04:40:29

#290

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6664|Amsterdam‫

if they do wrong again in the next 12months they get a 3 race ban
now there is nothing

2009-04-29 05:49:49

#291

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6838|London, England

Kptk92 wrote:
There's no difference, is there?

*appropriately facepalms then slaps Kez*

3 race suspension = banned for 3 races

suspended 3 race ban = banned for 3 races, but that ban is suspended itself until further notice or if McLaren break the rules again then it'll immediately come into effect, or something like that. So basically that 3 race ban is hanging over McLarens' head and they can effectively drop it whenever they want

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2009-04-29 09:52:18

#292

Snake: Missing, Presumed Dead; +1,046|6783|England

McLaren have been lucky, but it is the correct decision given the resignations of high-level officials and their complete open-ness of it (after being found out ). Anything else, and it could have fucked up the season like when they got docked all Constructors points.

2009-04-30 06:11:58

#293

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6838|London, England

Some new stuff emerging for next season, mainly about budget caps. The cap will be a somewhat flexible £40m

Formula One teams will be encouraged to operate within a £40m budget cap from 2010 under new cost-cutting measures announced by governing body the FIA.

Those who comply will gain greater technical freedom and unlimited out-of-season testing.

Expenditure such as driver salaries, engine costs (for 2010 only), fines, penalties and marketing and hospitality will not come under the £40m budget.

The maximum number of cars in the championship will rise from 24 to 26.

At the moment there are 20 cars, two for each of the 10 teams, but the budget cap could attract new entrants and F1 commercial rights holder Bernie Ecclestone has stated that he envisages up to three new teams in 2010.

The sport has not seen 26 cars on the grid for 15 years.

There will be an annual payment of $10m (£6.75m) to each team, plus free transportation of two chassis, freight up to 10,000kg in weight, as well as 20 economy-class tickets for each race outside Europe.

The WMSC has also confirmed the ban on refuelling during races, to save on costs of transporting refuelling equipment and increase the incentive for engine builders to improve fuel economy, and on tyre warmers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp … 025566.stm

@ ban on refueling during races. That changes so much in terms of strategy and weight and performance and... everything. It'd probably be abit like that season where they banned tyre changes during a race (unless it had to be done like wet/dry, I think)

2009-04-30 09:42:48

#294

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6838|London, England

bump

I didn't feel like making a new thread, but does anyone know about the Le Mans 24 hours circuit aptly named "Circuit de la Sarthe"

Such an epic track, better than Nurburgring (although no way near as big) imo. It used to have a huge straight using French motorway/highway roads (by the looks of it) until the FIA added two evenly spaced chicanes to make it less crazy.

It was called the Mulsane straight or something, check out this live video of a Porsche 956 going down it in 1983 before they chicane'd it.

I remember first seeing it when doing the GT4 Driving mission, the sense of speed and noise was staggering, this video sums it up well:

2009-04-30 09:44:46

#295

Snake: Missing, Presumed Dead; +1,046|6783|England

Mekstizzle wrote:
The WMSC has also confirmed the ban on refuelling during races, to save on costs of transporting refuelling equipment and increase the incentive for engine builders to improve fuel economy, and on tyre warmers.

Hmmm, thats a good one. I was just thinking what would be the point of a pit-stop, but then I assume the current tyre-regs will still be in place next year, so each team will still have to pit at least once. It just means the pitstop itself will be a LOT shorter. So, the leader who pulls out a 30second lead and pits is actually gaining an advantage with this (with regards to 2nd/3rd/4th places catching them), surely?

I wonder how this will affect the likes of Q3 fuel loads...

I like the idea to promote fuel economy, but really, no refuelling is pretty crap since it means the cars will have to be full to the rim which makes them very heavy from the race start, meaning a slower overall race.

2009-04-30 10:24:06

#296

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6838|London, England

It'll probably mean closer races though. I think all the cars will be much closer to each other throughout the race, especially at the end. You probably won't see 30 second leads opening up and things like that, we'll see how it goes. It's a step towards making the drivers race more on the track and making strategies much less important. Also even though there's an engine freeze until 2013 (I hate that rule) there'll probably be some good developments coming out of this rule change.

It's not just about fuel economy, it's to make things cheaper overall, they won't have to transport those crazy super fast refuler rigs that they do now.

I always thought it was gay seeing a heavy car come out from the pit stop and then hold up the rest of the pack whilst the car in front flies forward

2009-04-30 10:44:58

#297

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6711|N. Ireland

Pit stops were so fun, and often different fuel strategies won the race. I don't like that one bit

Noting the maximum cars on grid has expanded by two. Lola AM, perhaps?

2009-04-30 11:13:30

#298

Snake: Missing, Presumed Dead; +1,046|6783|England

Mekstizzle wrote:
I always thought it was gay seeing a heavy car come out from the pit stop and then hold up the rest of the pack whilst the car in front flies forward

Actually, thats a good point. Seeing that go would be a good thing.

@ kyle, I did read somewhere that Aston Martin were putting in a team

2009-04-30 11:15:23

#299

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6718|so randum

you can drive down a part of the c.d.l sarthe, its part of the autoroute system in france. been there.

Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella

2009-04-30 12:55:41

#300

TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6791

The no gas rule will put Bridgestone on the hotseat. I gotta believe they will have to alter the compounds yet again if they are to keep the rule of using multiple compounds during a race. As it is now, the option tire is lasting what, 12-20 laps...the prime a bit more obviously. If they are to keep this rule, we'll go back to hard and harder compounds...omg what that will do to a car full of fuel...
2010 and beyond will be very interesting to see.

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Bell wrote:

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Bell wrote:

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