Poll

Do you believe in Extra-Terrestrials?

Yes56%56% - 56
No11%11% - 11
I don't care4%4% - 4
Maybe7%7% - 7
I am an E.T. myself22%22% - 22
Total: 100
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6902|Canberra, AUS

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Spark wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:


You asking that on a thread like this is laughable.
No, its just that it looked as if you restated the exact thing I said,

I was merely expressing an opinion.
As was I. Are you saying that I can't speak if I agree with you on an entire point? That makes even less sense than your starting an argument over it.

Besides, the thread is a poll.
No, you can. 'Agreed' usually holds well with most people.

That post, however, was very strange, and partially pointless. It looked kinda like you agree with me but you're trying to attack me anyway...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6999|PNW

Spark wrote:

No, you can. 'Agreed' usually holds well with most people.

That post, however, was very strange, and partially pointless. It looked kinda like you agree with me but you're trying to attack me anyway...
Holy shit, you sure are prone to misinterpreting things. No, it wasn't an attack. I'm sorry if italics and underlines scare you.

[edit]Just because we disagree on other threads doesn't mean I'm going to spend time hunting you down and hounding your posts on others with non-stop, vicious verbal strikes.[/edit]

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+447|7075|Seattle, Washington, USA

OK, enough flaming now you two.

Anways, I think there are aliens out there somewhere, but I don't think they've ever visited Earth or made contact with us.
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6963|California
Lok at how we bitch at each other on the internet. You think aliens would really want to make themselves known?
wannabe_tank_whore
Member
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Major_Spittle wrote:

Of course there is other life out there.  I seriously doubt that they created spaceships to travel hundreds of light years to get here just to realize they have no brakes and crash into the plant.  Would they really be afraid to contact us???? What is their fasination with some rednecks anus????

Update: I was wrong. I just got back from Walmart and it was filled with aliens.  Walmart is a magnet for aliens and people with bad teeth, I must shop their no more. Now I'll have to go directly to China to get my fancy "almost wood" furniture.
Those are illegal aliens... not ET.
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+199|6971|Malaga, España
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jord
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+2,382|6906|The North, beyond the wall.

Xaritix wrote:

After I saw the new war of the worlds movie:

>I hear wierd noises
>I look outside every time I hear a foghorn
>I wear a tinfoil hat lol
>I eat a lot of sushi and raw meat (thats what killed the aliens, and why I have blood in my stool)
>I lock my doors at night
>I added rooms to my basement
>I rarely go outside
I watched war of the worlds i thoughtit was good but the ending was a load of shit.Why couldnt them genius's in holywood think of a better ending to that film.

And you should be locking your doors at night anyway not just because of aliens.
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|6874|Nova Scotia

jord wrote:

I watched war of the worlds i thoughtit was good but the ending was a load of shit.Why couldnt them genius's in holywood think of a better ending to that film.

And you should be locking your doors at night anyway not just because of aliens.
What part of the ending?  The aliens dying of the cold was as Wells originally wrote it, more or less (unless you mean Tom Cruise's character reuniting with his family).
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6890|USA

jord wrote:

Xaritix wrote:

After I saw the new war of the worlds movie:

>I hear wierd noises
>I look outside every time I hear a foghorn
>I wear a tinfoil hat lol
>I eat a lot of sushi and raw meat (thats what killed the aliens, and why I have blood in my stool)
>I lock my doors at night
>I added rooms to my basement
>I rarely go outside
I watched war of the worlds i thoughtit was good but the ending was a load of shit.Why couldnt them genius's in holywood think of a better ending to that film.

And you should be locking your doors at night anyway not just because of aliens.
War of the Worlds was shit. Orsen Wells would anal probe Tom Cruise if he saw that movie.
jord
Member
+2,382|6906|The North, beyond the wall.

Rygar wrote:

jord wrote:

I watched war of the worlds i thoughtit was good but the ending was a load of shit.Why couldnt them genius's in holywood think of a better ending to that film.

And you should be locking your doors at night anyway not just because of aliens.
What part of the ending?  The aliens dying of the cold was as Wells originally wrote it, more or less (unless you mean Tom Cruise's character reuniting with his family).
The way they die out.I think its a really good film but i didnt understand how they died[might of been gordan freeman talking smart that comfused me].I just thought that aliens that have mastered space flight,lasers and the art of the horn noise would of known that the cold could kill them.Or if i was the aliens general commander boss guy i would of sent in a scout to live on the earth for abit and see if he dies or not.
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|6874|Nova Scotia

jord wrote:

The way they die out.I think its a really good film but i didnt understand how they died[might of been gordan freeman talking smart that comfused me].I just thought that aliens that have mastered space flight,lasers and the art of the horn noise would of known that the cold could kill them.Or if i was the aliens general commander boss guy i would of sent in a scout to live on the earth for abit and see if he dies or not.
Ok, from a 'should have' point of view yeah, the aliens probably should (or would) have considered diseases and such, although the same can be said why the aliens in 'Signs' didn't do anything about their vulnerability to water other than park their cars in fields away from water bodies (I love that movie).  But, it IS a movie, so don't feel too bad.

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jord
Member
+2,382|6906|The North, beyond the wall.

Rygar wrote:

jord wrote:

The way they die out.I think its a really good film but i didnt understand how they died[might of been gordan freeman talking smart that comfused me].I just thought that aliens that have mastered space flight,lasers and the art of the horn noise would of known that the cold could kill them.Or if i was the aliens general commander boss guy i would of sent in a scout to live on the earth for abit and see if he dies or not.
Ok, from a 'should have' point of view yeah, the aliens probably should (or would) have considered diseases and such, although the same can be said why the aliens in 'Signs' didn't do anything about their vulnerability to water other than park their cars in fields away from water bodies (I love that movie).  But, it IS a movie, so don't feel too bad.
Sorry i get confused easily.Signs is good as well good ending the way it all comes together at the end with the boy having an asma attack that closes his lungs so he doesnt get poisened and that the other guy who played baseball remembers his mums last words "swing away".

But my favourate alien film has got to be .....ALIEN 1,2 not 3 that was really shit and 4!!!!
MooseRyder
Member
+37|6883|Montréal, Canada

jord wrote:

Rygar wrote:

jord wrote:

The way they die out.I think its a really good film but i didnt understand how they died[might of been gordan freeman talking smart that comfused me].I just thought that aliens that have mastered space flight,lasers and the art of the horn noise would of known that the cold could kill them.Or if i was the aliens general commander boss guy i would of sent in a scout to live on the earth for abit and see if he dies or not.
Ok, from a 'should have' point of view yeah, the aliens probably should (or would) have considered diseases and such, although the same can be said why the aliens in 'Signs' didn't do anything about their vulnerability to water other than park their cars in fields away from water bodies (I love that movie).  But, it IS a movie, so don't feel too bad.
Sorry i get confused easily.Signs is good as well good ending the way it all comes together at the end with the boy having an asma attack that closes his lungs so he doesnt get poisened and that the other guy who played baseball remembers his mums last words "swing away".

But my favourate alien film has got to be .....ALIEN 1,2 not 3 that was really shit and 4!!!!
Is mum???

man it wasnt his mum it was the wife of his brother , You sure you paid attention to the movie? jk
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6883|United States of America
Aliens don't have suction cups on the ends of their fingers.
jord
Member
+2,382|6906|The North, beyond the wall.

MooseRyder wrote:

jord wrote:

Rygar wrote:


Ok, from a 'should have' point of view yeah, the aliens probably should (or would) have considered diseases and such, although the same can be said why the aliens in 'Signs' didn't do anything about their vulnerability to water other than park their cars in fields away from water bodies (I love that movie).  But, it IS a movie, so don't feel too bad.
Sorry i get confused easily.Signs is good as well good ending the way it all comes together at the end with the boy having an asma attack that closes his lungs so he doesnt get poisened and that the other guy who played baseball remembers his mums last words "swing away".

But my favourate alien film has got to be .....ALIEN 1,2 not 3 that was really shit and 4!!!!
Is mum???

man it wasnt his mum it was the wife of his brother , You sure you paid attention to the movie? jk
It was his mum becuase it shows her getting hit by that car and the truck is keeping her aliv pinned next to the tree and she says "tell geroge....Swing away".
agwood
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No question in my mind...
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|6874|Nova Scotia

jord wrote:

It was his mum becuase it shows her getting hit by that car and the truck is keeping her aliv pinned next to the tree and she says "tell geroge....Swing away".
Nah, it was Mel Gibson's character's wife (Joaquin Phoenix' character's (Merrill) sister in law).
duk0r
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+306|6895|Austin, TX

They are out there

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Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6918|Tampa Bay Florida
I read somewhere that it's almost impossible that life ISNT out there, the universe is so huge.  It's out there, whether they've got a civilization, or they are just little microbes, it's out there.
=Robin-Hood=
A stranger in the dark
+213|7048|Belgium

If it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space.

R

(Sounds better when Jodie says it)
duk0r
Administrator
+306|6895|Austin, TX

=Robin-Hood= wrote:

If it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space.

R

(Sounds better when Jodie says it)
I was about to quote that and you beat me to it! Good movie btw.
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InviSniper
The first true Sniper.
+95|6871|Cumberland, MD, USA
I know I shall be flamed for saying this, but "aliens" do exist.

1. The universe is infinite, as in it goes on forever. Forever. There is no end. Remember this.
2. The possibility of matter arranging itself into a cell is a 1 followed by a few million zeros.

Since the universe goes on forever it will happen sometime or another. Sure, maybe not even remotely close, but it will, or already has, happen.

Hence, aliens are/will be real.

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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6902|Canberra, AUS

InviSniper wrote:

I know I shall be flamed for saying this, but "aliens" do exist.

1. The universe is infinite, as in it goes on forever. Forever. There is no end. Remember this.
2. The possibility of matter arranging itself into a cell is a 1 followed by a few million zeros.

Since the universe goes on forever it will happen sometime or another. Sure, maybe not even remotely close, but it will, or already has, happen.

Hence, aliens are/will be real.
The chance of life somewhere else in OUR GALAXY is pretty high.

Life should be stuck about 200 light years apart.

The conditions are ripe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murchison_meteorite

Especially interesting is this passage:

'The meteorite, a type II carbonaceous chondrite, was found to contain common amino acids such as glycine, alanine and glutamic acid but also unusual ones like isovaline and pseudoleucine [1]. The initial report stated that the amino acids were racemic supporting a theory that the source is extraterrestrial. A complex mixture of alkanes was isolated as well which was similar to that found in the Miller-Urey experiment. Serine and threonine are usually considered earthly contaminants and these compounds were conspicuously absent in the samples.

More research found that some amino acids were present in enantiomeric excess [2]. Homochirality is considered a unique biological property. The claims were challenged on the grounds that the protein amino acids were non-racemic but the other amino acids were [3]. In 1997 research showed that individual amino-acid enantiomers from Murchison were enriched in the nitrogen isotope 15N relative to their terrestrial counterparts, which confirmed an extraterrestrial source for an L-enantiomer excess in the Solar System [4]. The list of organic materials identified on the meteority material was extented to polyols [6] by 2001.'

BTW, the 'Miller-Urey' experiment is one where a simulation of the conditions in the very early stages of earth's life were recreated in a test-tube, some electricity added and bingo! you have a few chemicals that are absolutely ESSENTIAL to making life.

Last edited by Spark (2006-03-29 21:38:05)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7069|Cologne, Germany

Well, I am not a math genius, but I figure although the chances of life developing outside our galaxy are slim, they do exist. And since the universe seems to extend into infinity ( which is just another way of saying "we haven't figured out yet how big it is" ), it is well possible, if not likely that there is extraterrestrial life.

In what stadium of development, remains to be seen. some planets/civilizations might be further developed, others might be in a early stage.

Remember this though. Every planet will seize to exist at some point, including earth ( most likely when all natural resources have been used up ). So even if there is extraterrestrial life outside our galaxy, we might never get to "meet" it. Right now, we don't have the capabilities to allow manned spaceships to leave our galaxy and come back in reasonable time. It is well possible that the rock we live on seizes to exist before we even develop that capability. And that will be the end of that.

That's why I believe that the only chance we have to ever meet "aliens" is by them finding us.
=Robin-Hood=
A stranger in the dark
+213|7048|Belgium

B.schuss wrote:

"we haven't figured out yet how big it is"
Hmmm, that comes dangerously close to the border where people can’t cope with ‘not’ knowing and thus fall back to religion…
The most difficult things to comprehend (besides the why questions ) are the infinity of the universe and the nothingness between atoms / atomary particles. Either you “believe” in science and you just accept that at the moment all knowledge points towards an infinite space or you believe in “a” god who is waiting at the stop sign

But as a previous poster mentioned.
1. The universe is infinite
2. The possibility of matter arranging itself into life as we know it in the same time-frame as we are, are more zeros than the chance of seeing a chair draw energy from its surroundings and starting to levitate, yet it is a finite number. (both the chair and the aliens are)

Thus there must be life like ours in the universe at the moment.

But the question is rather; is it physically possible to traverse an infinite universe to allow a happenstance meeting between two equally developed populations? This goes 2 ways, we finding them, or they finding us. Although the latter should be easy, considering our technology for the past 50 years, we MUST be the noisiest planet in the galaxy…

Me? I would rather calculate the chance on winning the Euromillions 10 times on a row, without buying a single ticket

Cheers,
R

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