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Do you hate or like Bush ???

hate50%50% - 122
like28%28% - 69
Dont Give A Fuck16%16% - 40
Dont Know4%4% - 12
Total: 243
2006-03-23 22:05:33
Spark
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Horseman 77 wrote:

Torin wrote:

If the president wanted to be viewed as  moderately intelligent, he could have started by

A) Learning how to use the english language and
B) Seeing a speech therapist who could teach him to not constantly trip over his own tongue.

I mean, how can you respect any american as an intellectual if they don't even speak the native language properly.

The rest is just icing on the cake as to why most of the population consider him "dumb". I mean, you'd think for the highest profile public speaker in the country, we could expect a little more.
You are well out of your depth, as a friend I would ask you to find something else to occupy your time.
Stop saying that!
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2006-03-24 05:45:54
Horseman 77
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just trying to help, becuase it seems so sad.
2006-03-24 07:21:01
unnamednewbie13
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Torin wrote:

If the president wanted to be viewed as  moderately intelligent, he could have started by

A) Learning how to use the english language and
B) Seeing a speech therapist who could teach him to not constantly trip over his own tongue.

I mean, how can you respect any american as an intellectual if they don't even speak the native language properly.
He's pretty legible compared to the majority of southerners I've heard, and has coined new and interesting words like strategery.
2006-03-24 09:29:01
Horseman 77
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So people who " sound like you are smart " and people who don't sound like you are stupid.

Have you ever heard a recording of Einstiens voice? or Nikoli Tesla, Yeager, Skorsky, Rickenbacher Jimmy Carter, clinton, Cumo.

Sometimes it stings to learn a lesson
2006-03-24 09:40:48
cpt.fass2
Member
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Horseman 77 wrote:

Spark wrote:

We measure intelligence using scores etc. Also we use his performance intellectually in office.
We, ?  Ahem....

" Also we use his performance intellectually in office. "

How about just judging his ( performance ) period?

The War started for America in 1993, after 6 or more separate attacks in the previous administration. Since Bush took office They have not attacked us after again after 911.
Bush is fighting a War that was ignored by others and ignoring it cost the USA dearly.

WWII took about 6 years to complete the last Japanese soldier finally surrendered in 1972.
Look at the time and effort we put into Japan and Germany after the war. Are these people not worth it? and if not why ?

Can you imagine the world today if we had lost or nerve before WWII was won.

Cancel the " We " stuff and think for yourself. That's all I ask of anyone.
Define "attacked us" because my understanding is that the american troops are an extention of america, and it seems that they are getting attacked everyday. So it's not as if there not attacking us, there attacking a different group of us.   Also Bush's approval ratings aren't looking that good as of right now, because everyone in america can see that the inaction in aspects other then the war are going to effect us horrible in the future.
2006-03-24 09:42:36
cpt.fass2
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Horseman 77 wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

You have no clue and NYC is Really quite now... hmm  I guess they fuked with the wrong guy. 

Bush does your butts dry and laughs about it,  He hee !
What does that second part mean??  NYC is really quit now and you know why cause the econimy there is dying, I stoped and a ton of people I know stoped going there as well. And you know what that means, there's probably at least a few hundred thousand people who stoped dumping there money into your stores and bars. NYC is not the great city it once was, it's a tourist trap for all the europeeions that come here, and sooner or laterly there going to relize it's just not that interesting anymore. All the stuff that made NYC great has been bought out by disney and other retail chains that majority of the people can get in there own strip malls down the block for cheaper. And now we get to have a middle east company run our ports, there's great security.
Dry means  no lube ..

Hey I live here its cool now, Booming but no attacks  They never came back and now we have them killing eachother,
Yup your right horseman bush does all of our butts dry and laughs about it. had to change my name cause I couldn't log in for some reason.
2006-03-24 09:43:52
cpt.fass2
Member
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Horseman 77 wrote:

pokerplaya wrote:

Politics aside I think Bush is probably an ok guy.But to me he seems to be always out of his depth and is just not the type of person who I would like to be leading my country.It is wrong to hate someone because of their beliefs.I find it hard to even dislike someone who has opposing views to my own.If anything he makes me laugh.
Clinton and Bush are comedy gold.
the biggest difference between Bush and clinton is When They attacked WTC in clinton's administration, clinton only jerked off  ( after all 6 or 8 attacks ). Sadly, I am speaking literally about the guy.

Bush hit back, Hard, and quickly... not one more attack.
I think all the missles he fired into there training camps in afganistan after the attacks is something.
2006-03-24 09:45:41
unnamednewbie13
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cpt.fass2 wrote:

had to change my name cause I couldn't log in for some reason.
Bush must've stolen your name too. I bet he had a laugh over it with Cheney while spawn-camping pigeons with patriot missiles.
2006-03-24 09:53:00
cpt.fass2
Member
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hahaha unnamed spawn camping pigeons with patriot missilies wouldn't work if cheney was there, bush would get hit in the face. Old people hunting good stuff
2006-03-24 16:27:55
Horseman 77
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You all don't know JACK about the Cheney " Hunting accident "

I am getting tired of spoon feeding you all, Once and for all...heres the real deal.

If you watch the whole, REAL, uncut tape,

You can clearly see and hear Cheney saying. 

" I Thought I told you I wanted that jacket ? give it up. "

Then when the old guy gives Cheney a Really Cool Fubu or Enyce Jacket ( the Kind Spark Ekrutu and Kinerio long for )

Cheney says " Next time dont make me ask twice, GW sends his regards  ! " and zaps him.

Later that Day congress passed three separate bills that would give Bush special powers to spy on Liberals and Jail minorities.

Read between the lines, It was a discipline thing. They made an Example out of the Guy.
2006-03-24 16:50:52
unnamednewbie13
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I really hope you weren't referring to me, Horse.

Well, at least Dick didn't flee from the scene of the accident like everybody's good old pal Teddy.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-03-24 16:51:59)

2006-03-25 08:42:52
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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Horseman 77 wrote:

My feelings on Bush can be summed as this,

He has been constantly attacked from Day 1 for un quantifiable qualities.

He is mean. how do you measure that. ?

He doesn't care about blacks. how do you measure that. ?


He is Dumb ? how do you measure that. ?
The very crowd who are so quick to toss around the word "uneducated" as an insult   
chooses to ignore his GPA as a yard stick.

Its like " The Emperors Cloths " everyone mimics everyone else's opinion.

Story...

A local Dejay " Howard Stern " Was saying how he thought "Jackson Pollack"  was a shitty artist.
He immediately was attacked almost unanimously by one and all as 

" ignorant and lacking of the keen ability to see the genius of Jackson Pollack's work. "

         so

He went home Cranked out a few paintings, had them photographed, had some  " Jackson Pollack " paintings Photographed as well, displayed them side by side and not one of the very vocal and condescending art critics could discern a " Stern from a Pollack " Yet they all had been very eager to acknowledge the Genius they could observe in a Jackson Pollack  painting. My feeling is each and everyone of them didn't have the guts to stand up and say

"  It looks like some one spilled some paint on a Canvas "

It takes some fortitude to form your own opinions and not parrot the loudest  voice.
Perhaps he was attacked from day one because his election was bullshit . And perhaps since day one he was obsessed with Iraq and clawed , scratched and dug up every excuse to go to war with Iraq .

I don't need to follow anyones mass opinion . I was happy when Bush got elected - at first . Since then he has proven to be the worst president we have ever had . This is the first time I ever HATED a president .
IMHO the look on his face at the school when he was first notified of the 9/11 attacks showed me he has not one ounce of leadership skills - none whats so ever . And the fact that he STILL gets all flustered with his words in front of a live audience after 4 years of practice - I rest my case .
2006-03-25 14:40:45
unnamednewbie13
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jonnykill wrote:

Perhaps he was attacked from day one because his election was bullshit . And perhaps since day one he was obsessed with Iraq and clawed , scratched and dug up every excuse to go to war with Iraq .

I don't need to follow anyones mass opinion . I was happy when Bush got elected - at first . Since then he has proven to be the worst president we have ever had . This is the first time I ever HATED a president.
IMHO the look on his face at the school when he was first notified of the 9/11 attacks showed me he has not one ounce of leadership skills - none whats so ever . And the fact that he STILL gets all flustered with his words in front of a live audience after 4 years of practice - I rest my case .
How do you suppose he's any "worse" than presidents who drug the US into any other war? And Clinton's election wasn't bullshit? What a media circus of dividing conservative vote that was...not that it's never happened before that, Oh, no. And people get upset when it's turned around on them? The infamous "look on his face" was slowed down on tape to achieve a filmaker's desired effect. And you try going for as little sleep as a president for so many years as one and see how glib you are, unless you're some sort of communications genius like Reagan. It's alot easier to write, where you can fix typos, rather than address a whole planet now, isn't it? The job tears people appart to the point where it's actually visible in the rate they've aged.
2006-03-25 15:33:00
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

Perhaps he was attacked from day one because his election was bullshit . And perhaps since day one he was obsessed with Iraq and clawed , scratched and dug up every excuse to go to war with Iraq .

I don't need to follow anyones mass opinion . I was happy when Bush got elected - at first . Since then he has proven to be the worst president we have ever had . This is the first time I ever HATED a president.
IMHO the look on his face at the school when he was first notified of the 9/11 attacks showed me he has not one ounce of leadership skills - none whats so ever . And the fact that he STILL gets all flustered with his words in front of a live audience after 4 years of practice - I rest my case .
How do you suppose he's any "worse" than presidents who drug the US into any other war? And Clinton's election wasn't bullshit? What a media circus of dividing conservative vote that was...not that it's never happened before that, Oh, no. And people get upset when it's turned around on them? The infamous "look on his face" was slowed down on tape to achieve a filmaker's desired effect. And you try going for as little sleep as a president for so many years as one and see how glib you are, unless you're some sort of communications genius like Reagan. It's alot easier to write, where you can fix typos, rather than address a whole planet now, isn't it? The job tears people appart to the point where it's actually visible in the rate they've aged.
How do I supose ? First off this is the first time America has ever attacked premptively so It kind of stands out a little bit don't you agree ? Secondly the reasons we did so turned out to be wrong , false , ignorant and inept . As it stands today we still don't have any solid evidence of Iraq making WMD's nor the plans to attack America .
The look on Bushes face wasn't slowed down on live TV when I saw it . He simply had a look of not knowing what to do at all . Not a freaking clue . I dunno , call me crazy but any other human being let alone a President should have excused himself and quicky gotten up and haul ass back to the white house and do his job . Bush didn't do shit for 20 minutes . He just sat there looking stupid holding a book upside down .
2006-03-25 15:34:22
unnamednewbie13
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jonnykill wrote:

How do I supose ? First off this is the first time America has ever attacked premptively...
Uh, huh...keep going.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-03-25 15:34:31)

2006-03-25 16:10:34
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

How do I supose ? First off this is the first time America has ever attacked premptively...
Uh, huh...keep going.
So your FOR the war ?
2006-03-25 16:28:42
unnamednewbie13
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jonnykill wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

How do I supose ? First off this is the first time America has ever attacked premptively...
Uh, huh...keep going.
So your FOR the war ?
Right now, I'm wondering why you think this is the only "preemptive" attack in American history.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-03-25 16:29:05)

2006-03-25 19:21:45
jonnykill
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:


Uh, huh...keep going.
So your FOR the war ?
Right now, I'm wondering why you think this is the only "preemptive" attack in American history.
OK name the other preemptive war we've had . (Grabs pop corn sits back ) .........
2006-03-25 19:56:53
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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http://www.dumpalink.com/media/11374965 … 1_and_Iraq
2006-03-25 19:59:02
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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Nothing like randomly killing civillians ....

http://www.dumpalink.com/media/11336942 … _Civilians
2006-03-26 05:56:49
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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jonnykill wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jonnykill wrote:


So your FOR the war ?
Right now, I'm wondering why you think this is the only "preemptive" attack in American history.
OK name the other preemptive war we've had . (Grabs pop corn sits back ) .........
I'm still waiting Skippy ! While we are all waiting here is an article I'm sure you have heard about .
It's about how a mole in our central command was leaking info about our war plans to a Russian spy who sifted the info to Saddam's regieme . This doesn't bother me at all compaired to the fact that :

  "There were no national plans to transition to a guerrilla war in the event of military defeat," the report states.
    This fact helps explain why commanders did not predict, nor plan for, the robust insurgency and al Qaeda terrorists now spreading violence.

Why was there no plan for an insurgency ? Why was there no plan to deal with Al Quada ? Just another example that the Bush administration has no idea when it comes to " Middle East policies " .
2006-03-26 06:15:43
unnamednewbie13
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jonnykill wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:


Right now, I'm wondering why you think this is the only "preemptive" attack in American history.
OK name the other preemptive war we've had . (Grabs pop corn sits back ) .........
I'm still waiting Skippy ! While we are all waiting here is an article I'm sure you have heard about .
It's about how a mole in our central command was leaking info about our war plans to a Russian spy who sifted the info to Saddam's regieme . This doesn't bother me at all compaired to the fact that :

  "There were no national plans to transition to a guerrilla war in the event of military defeat," the report states.
    This fact helps explain why commanders did not predict, nor plan for, the robust insurgency and al Qaeda terrorists now spreading violence.

Why was there no plan for an insurgency ? Why was there no plan to deal with Al Quada ? Just another example that the Bush administration has no idea when it comes to " Middle East policies " .
Skippy? I don't exactly watch the forums day and night at your beck and call...

Let's see where we've got pre-emptive strikes...OH! Vietnam, Libya, Lebanon, Nicaragua, Sudan, Somalia...

Enjoy your popcorn, if it isn't already cold or eaten.
2006-03-26 07:20:45
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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All of thoes wars had international backing and or genocide was taking place .
2006-03-26 07:21:23
(T)eflon(S)hadow
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Nitaro02 wrote:

To be honest with you, he apparently isn't hated as much as some people believe.

Abe Lincoln was hated, he got assassinated.  James Garfield was hated, he got assassinated.  JFK got assassinated.  Bush is obviously hated by many people, but apparently he hasn't pissed people off too bad if 1. He got re-elected; and 2. He hasn't gotten shot yet.

The thing many people seem to have a problem is with his domestic spying deal and the fact that he can have the government tap in on conversations and things.  Personally, I could care less about that because unless you have something to hide you shouldn't be worried.

I mean, I was in Europe for about months travelling through many countries when they had problems (bombings in London, bombings in Spain, etc.), so I mean realistically the American government could have been spying on my conversations I had over e-mail with my family.  The point is, whether or not they were (most likely not), I could care less because all they would get is recap of the few days after the previous e-mail.

And no matter what, he'll be gone in like 2 years so if you hate him it'll be your chance to try to get somebody that is, in your opinion, the best candidate for the job in there.
QFE
2006-03-26 08:58:09
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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So all the problem Bush caused will just go away in one day ? The day he leaves office ? Riiiiiiiight.

 

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