BF2S Forums Great Wall vs Karkand!

Yep I like the Great wall better.

Less blind charging to book a room at the Karkand Hotal.

i like great wall is better because there is more ways to go and it is better for stealth (sniper spec ops)

I vote karkand cause i hit 7 AT mines on GW yesterday, which i normally see, they were the only ones that have ever killed me


i can see them on karkand

Karkand sucks...

Played GW 16player for the first time last night.... HATED it! You had to play either Sniper, or super noob toob (AT). The map is only infantry, so there is no hiding the fact that the AA is to be used on infantry only.

I broke even, but that was only because I had to play their game (sniping)... it was just boring. No one wanted to move for a flag, because any movement (outside of the AA) was giving away your position.

Karkand doesn't have as much sniper cover, and is much more squad based.

Great Wall offers a multi-winning strategy.

Karkand has become too familiar and a very "easy" map. Great Wall offers a "see-saw" of battle. From hitting the enemy from the ground, from the Wall, and from the outside walls. It focues, heavily on infantry battle, and the use of vehicles are purposeful, but very quickly thwarted. Unlike in Karkand where Vehicles are virtually a must and therefore AT's and Engineers and Spec Ops are more heavily played. On Great Wall I have seen a great mix of Support, Medics, Snipers, Assult, and Spec Ops. Enginners and AT's take a bit of a back seat.

Lt_Santiago wrote:

Enginners and AT's take a bit of a back seat.

In the 16 player map, I agree. In the 64 player though, the Ordinance badge is an easy win using mines at the gates; it's dark and many players try to fly through in vehicles.

I need more time with the map before I make my final opinion, but for now, I would say hell no to the 16 player. It's just spawn camping 101.

In case you didn't know I am on a crucade AGAINST Karkand, so great Wall all the way! Cheack out my "Strike on Karkand thread!"

Lt_Santiago wrote:

Great Wall offers a multi-winning strategy.

Karkand has become too familiar and a very "easy" map. Great Wall offers a "see-saw" of battle. From hitting the enemy from the ground, from the Wall, and from the outside walls. It focues, heavily on infantry battle, and the use of vehicles are purposeful, but very quickly thwarted. Unlike in Karkand where Vehicles are virtually a must and therefore AT's and Engineers and Spec Ops are more heavily played. On Great Wall I have seen a great mix of Support, Medics, Snipers, Assult, and Spec Ops. Enginners and AT's take a bit of a back seat.

I agree for the most part, but there are still plenty of engineers roaming around. Those AT mines are very effective on the Great Wall, and it prevents tank whores from just sweeping in and killing everyone on the ground. Only good thing is that people on the walls are virtually protected from armor, which can be good if some tank whore thinks he can just pwn all the noob fates because of his l33t skill, even though he is nine. You've got that problem on Karkand, and that's enough for me to frown at it.

Although I love great wall, I think Karkand is better

I prefer GW much more, because i have not seen any baseraping on this map.