BF2S Forums iSuppli predicts that 38 million PS3s will be sold by 2011

Vilham wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

i really don't see what makes the 360 games so much better than the ps3.

enlighten me.

(I'm including everything that's both 360 only and 360/PC only)

Alan Wake
Bioshock
Gears of War
C&C3
Left 4 Dead
Mass Effect
Shadowrun
Crackdown
Dead Rising
Halo 3
Halo Wars
PGR3/4
CoD2
Forza Motorsport 2

Motorstorm, Uncharted and Resistance are the only PS3 only titles I can think of that are good. And in all honesty, I didn't like the Resistance demo, which is why I got Burnout Paradise instead.

However, PS3 will be coming up with a lot of good PS3 only titles. Haze, MGS (even though I don't care for MGS), etc. But seeing as Microsoft is a developer of the most used (and best, stfu mac fanboys) PC operating system, you have to figure that a computer company with one of the richest men on the planet as CEO (or, was) is going to make better games overall than an electronics company like Sony.

First mistake... did you just say Microsoft makes the "best" OS? Ever heard of Linux, no? Well fooking use it! Ubuntu is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR better than any MS OS, MS OS's are designed for things like word, excel, etc etc, MS programs, and whats funny, its not even good at that. That makes it just about the WORST OS out there, for christsake mac OS has better MS Word than MS OS's and I fuking HATE macs.
Second mistake, thinking because MS is rich it makes good software, see above... and please explain the total flop that was the xbox... ill say this once. 120 million to 26 million... Sony make better consoles, period.
Third mistake, thinking because a console has lots of exclusives it means something, seeing as half those exclusives, arent EXCLUSIVES, as they are on the PC, and a quarter more of them are pure shit.. that really doesnt leave much reason for buying an xbox360 over the PS3, be it that I did actually buy one before the PS3, but that wasnt because of the long list of exclusives, it was because it was cheap.

/rant

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2008-04-23 02:54:09)

Last edited by Machine_Madness (2008-04-23 04:40:52)

SamTheMan:D wrote:

$t@ll0wn3d!!

Machine_Madness wrote:

WHO CARES!!!

people buy Xbox360s and PS3 for different reasons. I bought a 360 cause I don't like the PS3 controller and the games that are on it.

People may have bought the PS3 for blu ray and other reasons, same with 360, seriously I don't give a flying fuck. ^^^And your statistics are stupid because half those games come with consoles when you buy them or they are crappy Asian games that Asians play.

Last edited by Vilham (2008-04-23 15:59:21)

Vilham wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

First mistake... did you just say Microsoft makes the "best" OS? Ever heard of Linux, no? Well fooking use it! Ubuntu is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR better than any MS OS, MS OS's are designed for things like word, excel, etc etc, MS programs, and whats funny, its not even good at that. That makes it just about the WORST OS out there, for christsake mac OS has better MS Word than MS OS's and I fuking HATE macs.
Second mistake, thinking because MS is rich it makes good software, see above... and please explain the total flop that was the xbox... ill say this once. 120 million to 26 million... Sony make better consoles, period.
Third mistake, thinking because a console has lots of exclusives it means something, seeing as half those exclusives, arent EXCLUSIVES, as they are on the PC, and a quarter more of them are pure shit.. that really doesnt leave much reason for buying an xbox360 over the PS3, be it that I did actually buy one before the PS3, but that wasnt because of the long list of exclusives, it was because it was cheap.

/rant

To each his own. I loved XP and I love Vista 10x more.

And yes, Xbox was a pretty big flop...but so what? It also started quite possibly one of the most successful franchises of all time (Halo). 360 is excellent. Do you have both a 360 and a PS3? No, you don't. Not anymore, atleast. I have both, and normally someone likes a new product compared to their old one, but the 360 is superior in so many ways. The PS3 interface is shit compared to how easy it is to navigate on the 360 interface, PSN loads as slow as hell, and the Wi-Fi's not that great.

Want more games? Sure. I just added the ones that I personally liked.

Ninja Gaiden II (coming in June)
Blue Dragon
Too Human (coming this year)
Perfect Dark Zero
Fable 2 (also coming this year)
Ace Combat 6
Saints Row

Compare the list I have to the list of PS3 only titles. There's like 4.

lol... actually i do have both, as ive stated... and sorry to say, but the interface on the 360 is diabolical. And the simple fact is technically, Sony is better at producing software and hardware, so your claim is wrong. The wifi is incredible on the PS3, it gives me more signal than my tower network card and its further from the router than my PC. PSN does admittedly load quite slow, but the only thing on PSN atm is the shop so what does that matter? and to set it clear, i never thought the 360 was very good, because its not. It got bad hardware, and its got bad software.

Halo is also far from the most successful franchise. Smash bros has been out for what? a month? Its already got similar sales to Halo which was out for years. Just because 1/5th xbox owners own one of the halo games doesnt mean its massive selling because xboxs make up about 1/5 of the market... I mean nintendogs sold 17 million, thats the same as all the halo games combined.

Most successful games:

1.     Pokémon Red, Blue, and Green (Game Boy – 20.08 million approximately, 10.23 million in Japan,[43] 9.85 million in US)[18]
2.     Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES – 18 million)[40]
3.     Nintendogs (DS – 17.79 million)[70]
4.     Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2 – 17.5 million,[24] may include PC and Xbox versions)
5.     Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (PS2 – 14.87 million)[103]
6.     Pokémon Gold and Silver (Game Boy Color – 14.51 million approximately, 7.6 million in US,[18] 6.91 million in Japan)[43]
7.     Grand Theft Auto III (PS2 – 14.5 million,[24] may include PC and Xbox versions)
8.     Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (DS – 14.17 million)[70]
9.     Super Mario Land (Game Boy – 14 million)[40]
10.     New Super Mario Bros. (DS – 13.14 million)[70]
11.     Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (GBA – 13 million)[79]
12.     Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2 – 12 million)[115]
13.     Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (DS – 11.71 million)[70]
14.     Super Mario 64 (N64 – 11 million)[43]
15.     Gran Turismo (PS1 – 10.85 million)[103]
16.     Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen (GBA – 10.66 million)[63]
17.     Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES – 10 million)[40]
18.     Gran Turismo 4 (PS2 – 9.92 million)[103]
19.     Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! (DS – 9.841 million)[70]
20.     Final Fantasy VII (PS1 – 9.8 million, includes Final Fantasy VII International)[104]

Dont see halo on there... /end of need for argument.

Spidery_yoda you generally buy the console for the exclusives, if there arent any exclusives you like dont buy the PS3, you would merely be wasting your money. Coz its a lot of money to waste. Thats my advice for you.

Vilham wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

lol... actually i do have both, as ive stated... and sorry to say, but the interface on the 360 is diabolical. And the simple fact is technically, Sony is better at producing software and hardware, so your claim is wrong. The wifi is incredible on the PS3, it gives me more signal than my tower network card and its further from the router than my PC. PSN does admittedly load quite slow, but the only thing on PSN atm is the shop so what does that matter? and to set it clear, i never thought the 360 was very good, because its not. It got bad hardware, and its got bad software.

Halo is also far from the most successful franchise. Smash bros has been out for what? a month? Its already got similar sales to Halo which was out for years. Just because 1/5th xbox owners own one of the halo games doesnt mean its massive selling because xboxs make up about 1/5 of the market... I mean nintendogs sold 17 million, thats the same as all the halo games combined.

Most successful games:

1.     Pokémon Red, Blue, and Green (Game Boy – 20.08 million approximately, 10.23 million in Japan,[43] 9.85 million in US)[18]
2.     Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES – 18 million)[40]
3.     Nintendogs (DS – 17.79 million)[70]
4.     Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2 – 17.5 million,[24] may include PC and Xbox versions)
5.     Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (PS2 – 14.87 million)[103]
6.     Pokémon Gold and Silver (Game Boy Color – 14.51 million approximately, 7.6 million in US,[18] 6.91 million in Japan)[43]
7.     Grand Theft Auto III (PS2 – 14.5 million,[24] may include PC and Xbox versions)
8.     Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (DS – 14.17 million)[70]
9.     Super Mario Land (Game Boy – 14 million)[40]
10.     New Super Mario Bros. (DS – 13.14 million)[70]
11.     Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (GBA – 13 million)[79]
12.     Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2 – 12 million)[115]
13.     Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (DS – 11.71 million)[70]
14.     Super Mario 64 (N64 – 11 million)[43]
15.     Gran Turismo (PS1 – 10.85 million)[103]
16.     Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen (GBA – 10.66 million)[63]
17.     Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES – 10 million)[40]
18.     Gran Turismo 4 (PS2 – 9.92 million)[103]
19.     Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! (DS – 9.841 million)[70]
20.     Final Fantasy VII (PS1 – 9.8 million, includes Final Fantasy VII International)[104]

Dont see halo on there... /end of need for argument.

Spidery_yoda you generally buy the console for the exclusives, if there arent any exclusives you like dont buy the PS3, you would merely be wasting your money. Coz its a lot of money to waste. Thats my advice for you.

All of your "facts" are your opinions. I like how you relate the two so closely. So no, your argument isn't as right as you say. And the Xbox 360 interface is amazing. It's easy to use, you can pop up your friends list whenever you want and see the friends of your friends, and play your own music in your games. "The simple fact is that Sony is better at producing hardware and software"? ROFL. You're funny. Too funny.

And Halo 3 has sold 8.1 million, Halo 2 sold 6.2 million (in the US alone), and 5 million sold for Halo: CE. That's 19 million copies sold. 19 million in the US alone! You don't want to consider that an extremely successful series?

Thats where your wrong, the playstation has superior hardware. that is a FACT. Its hardware is more powerful. MS software is conceptually week and implemented poorly. Now that is opinion, an opinion shared by programmers across the world.

And no i dont consider that extremely successful. GTA series 80 million copies, FF series 40+ million, smash bros 28+ million, those are succesful, and as to your figures, those are world wide sales. Not US only.

Vilham wrote:

I rest my case that Halo is the 36th most successful series. I rest my case on something called FACTS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_be … franchises

Ill also point out that you may say how long they have been out, but the only halo game that still sells many copies is Halo 3 and how long do you think it is before that stops shifting, I would say a year at max.

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

I rest my case that Halo is the 36th most successful series. I rest my case on something called FACTS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_be … franchises

Ill also point out that you may say how long they have been out, but the only halo game that still sells many copies is Halo 3 and how long do you think it is before that stops shifting, I would say a year at max.

And how many copies do the older version of the other franchises sell? I don't see what you're trying to say.

Only ONE of those games that are above Halo have been released after it, and that's Brain Age, which is rated E.

lol, brain age is beating halo, that's pretty sad.

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

And how many copies do the older version of the other franchises sell? I don't see what you're trying to say.

Only ONE of those games that are above Halo have been released after it, and that's Brain Age, which is rated E.

lol, brain age is beating halo, that's pretty sad.

You know it also beats Metal Gear right...

Yeah, suck on that one, Migs

Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

I rest my case that Halo is the 36th most successful series. I rest my case on something called FACTS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_be … franchises

Ill also point out that you may say how long they have been out, but the only halo game that still sells many copies is Halo 3 and how long do you think it is before that stops shifting, I would say a year at max.

And how many copies do the older version of the other franchises sell? I don't see what you're trying to say.

Only ONE of those games that are above Halo have been released after it, and that's Brain Age, which is rated E.

Vilham wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

I rest my case that Halo is the 36th most successful series. I rest my case on something called FACTS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_be … franchises

Ill also point out that you may say how long they have been out, but the only halo game that still sells many copies is Halo 3 and how long do you think it is before that stops shifting, I would say a year at max.

And how many copies do the older version of the other franchises sell? I don't see what you're trying to say.

Only ONE of those games that are above Halo have been released after it, and that's Brain Age, which is rated E.

So what your saying is in 2 years halo would reach 100 million sales? I think fucking not, so it really doesnt matter when a series was released, its the number of sales per year since release that matters, and guess what, that probably rates halo even lower.

Vilham wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

I never said it didn't, I personally have never played a metal gear game, I'm still looking forward to 4 though.


And halo sucks, throughout 7 years they have successfully added graphics and a shitty map editor and still made countless dollars off of reatarded fanboys and all their friends.

[23:07:43] [Miggle|Epic]: plus multiplayer is annoying as fuck
[23:07:53] [Miggle|Epic]: xbox360 = shit
[23:07:53] [+Heggs]: i found it to be a fun run and gun
[23:07:56] [+Heggs]: but that's just me
[23:08:05] [+Heggs]: and i spent lots of time with the co op
[23:08:06] [Miggle|Epic]: its decent
[23:08:06] [@Poseidon`]: dude
[23:08:08] [@Poseidon`]: miggle
[23:08:10] [@Poseidon`]: you're such a fanboy.
[23:08:12] [@Poseidon`]: seriously.
[23:08:13] [Miggle|Epic]: lol
[23:08:20] [@Poseidon`]: you're slowly becoming sam

lolsorrysam

He just said Halo coop is decent and hes a fan boy? Yeah coz that makes sense.