BF2S Forums Gay pride

golgoj4 wrote:

Sadly, plenty of people care if one is 'a homosexual' because they feel its their place to define whats acceptable. Just as you just did in your post. Its warped according to you. Once they dont have to deal with people who cant get past judging and discriminating against them, you wont see any parades.

Guess what? Homosexuality isn't normal. I hate to break it to you, but Evolution didn't design peeps to reproduce with their assholes. So no, it's not just Christians, it's atheists against it as well. Guess something else? I just passed judgment on a group of people with a different sexuality, you judged me on it. Can't win can you?
Sadly ( for homosexuals) nobody cares about them, because they're making a big deal out of their sexuality. What if I started something called "Straight Pride"? Would I get much of a following? No I wouldn't because it's normal, it's not a big deal. The only people making a big deal out of this are liberal idiots who have nothing else to do, except create a big fuss about people's "rights" when they shove each other in the ass. These same people feel obligated to make gay parades and make a big deal out of their sexuality. Congrat-the-fuck-ulations, why the big deal?
Here's something homosexuals will have to accept: Nobody cares about your loose ass.
And where's the discrimination Mr "I won't pass judgment on you because I am teh holier than thou"? It's discrimination that I don't give a flying rat's ass about them shagging each other's bums?

Your argument phails.

Because gay people think that they have to make us accept their bull shit so then they can feel special about how they shag each other and how that's oh so special. The rest of us who have sex the normal way evolution intended live such mundane lives compared to them, the oh-so great homosexuals. If you're homosexual, good for you, God/ Darwin Bless You, but it's time for you to realize, no one gives a shit up the arse.

RedTwizzler wrote:

You, sir, fail.

Wrong. I didn't write an essay, if you call that an essay, your English teacher needs to be slapped. I felt like putting substance in my post; something your post--and most likely your brain--lacks.

As long as they don't block the streets when I'm trying to get somewhere, I don't give a shit. Of course, the same thing goes for any other group. By God you can have your stupid get-together in a stadium or at a theme park, or in bars, but stay the fuck off the streets. It's real hard for me to get where I'm going by driving through a bar. You CAN use the bar, I can't. Stay off my fucking roads for your "we're so desperate for you to recognize us we're going to inconvenience the fucking city to rub your nose in our deal" parade. Do your bullshit on private property and stay out of my way. Have a 1,000,000 man circle jerk if you want, just don't cost me 30 extra minutes of drive time for your shit. And that goes for whatever your dumbass cause is.

iamangry wrote:

1.  Individuals do what they want.  If they want to use gay as a pejorative, thats their choice.  Just like I can legally call a black man a nigger to his face.  I wouldn't, because I like living, but that's not the point.  To say that violates a gay man's rights is ridiculous.

Of course that's ridiculous. But I didn't just talk about slurs did I?  I talked about assault and murder and attempting to codify discrimination and bigotry into our laws. I talked about how people in this country take it as a matter of course to refer to homosexuals as sick deviants and constantly portray them as such.

iamangry wrote:

Unless the government is killing them or assaulting their rights, or if the people in general were assaulting their rights, I don't see how you can call them oppressed.  There are no sexuality discriminating rights in this country.  You're a guy and you want to be married?  Marry a woman.  A straight man can't marry a straight man, so how is a gay man's rights assaulted if he can't marry a gay man.  Love isn't part of the law buddy.

I see, so because they have the right to make the same choices as you and only the same choices as you, their rights aren't infringed? How the fuck does that work? Shit, how does anybody even manage to seriously arrive at that conclusion? And whether you like it or not, I'll point out that a few decades ago, I could probably find some fuckwit telling people "Blacks are free to marry other blacks, they're not oppressed if they can't marry whites. Love isn't part of the law buddy.".

iamangry wrote:

2.  Fuck you sir.  You don't know what I've been through, so don't you dare presume to think you do.  Maybe I'll start a thread one day about how I'm persecuted, when I'm ready to be laughed out of this forum because almost EVERYONE persecutes for what I'm "guilty" of (Note: for those of you wondering, its nothing sexual in nature).

Awwwww, should we have a big pity party for iamangry, because the persecution he's subject to is the most awful special persecution in the world? Tell you what, sir, if the persecution you experience lends you no insight into the plight of others who, like yourself, are treated like shit because of something about you that is an integral part of who you are, if it does not give you a window into the world of other people who are trod under by society for no good godsdamn reason, then I don't have an ounce of sympathy for you. I have a pretty good idea what it is you're speaking of. I'm also pretty sure that people aren't banned from marrying, adopting children, assaulted or murdered for it. That doesn't mean you or anyone like you deserves to be treated like shit, but you've ironically managed to find the other position that deprives you of the support of other people, that being "My oppression is worse because (insert reason here)". You know what, pal? I get treated like dirt constantly for my appearance. People look at me with suspicion. Sometimes I get hassled by the cops. Employers don't think I'm competent. I know for a fact that all of it would go away if I changed how I dress, cut my hair, covered up my tattoos. However unlike you, that doesn't make me say "Oh you homosexuals, if only you'd behave like society says you should, you know, the society that says you're all sick filthy deviants, then people would treat you better.". It makes me understand that someone like me, I have it easy. I can make some simple alterations to my appearance and I'd never have another problem again. Other people don't have easy options like that. So not only do I not take the easy way out, I damn sure don't demand that other people make radical changes to their life when I don't have to do the same.

iamangry wrote:

3.  I can safely say I've never seen two people "dry humping" in public.  Ever.  If I saw two gay guys dry humping in public I wouldn't be offended.  I would be offended if they clogged a major thoroughfare with a thousand of them dry humping.  Then again, I'd be offended if a bunch of straight people did that too.  Only thing is, straight people don't do that.  Again, you can't force people to like you.  If someone at work assaults you because you're gay, that's his choice.  That's part of your battle with the common ignorant man.  What I tried to say previously was that you don't win that sort of battle by flaunting your differences in their faces.

So there's no difference between a permit-holding parade on a planned route and "they clogged a major thoroughfare with a thousand of them dry humping", gotcha. Because that's all a pride parade is really, especially if you're talking out your ass because your only experiences with one are what you hear second-hand from people who want to shove homosexuals right back in the closet and aren't above lying to accomplish that goal. As far as the "battle with the common ignorant man", you don't win that by following the advice of the common ignorant man. The common ignorant man considers "flaunting your differences in our faces" as an acceptable definition for "you exist".

iamangry wrote:

We are a pretty tolerant people when not antagonized.

Sure, just ask the Africans, Native Americans and oh yeah the homosexuals too. This country was amazingly tolerant of all those groups. As long as they knew their place and didn't do things to upset the common ignorant man.

iamangry wrote:

I don't mean conformity by the numbers- clones and such.  I mean conformity by letting your differences show themselves, and being who you are, just like anyone else.

Now you're just being confusing. So they can let their differences show themselves and be who they are, but only if it's within comfortable guidelines set by the common ignorant man?

iamangry wrote:

That's how you gain acceptance from other individuals.  If they cannot communicate comfortably with you, they will not like you.  That's just the way people are right now, hopefully one day we move past that.

We'll never move past it as long as people excuse it.

iamangry wrote:

I think most in America have.

Many in America have. Most? I'd believe that if people in Oregon hadn't listened to a nutjob religious fanatic who claims that American courts have no jurisdiction over him because they fly a military flag in courtooms when he said that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry because it would destroy the foundation of marriage in America.

iamangry wrote:

I don't have a problem with drag queens, transsexuals, gays, lesbians... I'm friends with people from all these disciplines, because they have good personalities and are down to earth.

Do your friends know that you don't consider any of their rights to be infringed on? Do you tell any of them, if any of them express frustration at not being able to legally marry, that "Love isn't part of the law"? Do you tell them that they need to act more "normal" if they want to be accepted?

iamangry wrote:

I did meet a gay guy who was flamboyant about being gay, and tried to make me gay several times.

Obviously he's an idiot, since he couldn't make you gay anymore than he could make you a mailbox.

iamangry wrote:

I was not friends with him because he was off in ass-rail land.  He was rude, crude, stupid, and impossible to be comfortable around (because he was a groper ... and he thought the sun was mostly iron because he read it on a website on the internet ).

Jesus Tapdancing Raptor Christ, are you saying that you met one idiot and you're allowing his behavior to override any experiences you've had with the friends you previously mentioned? Seriously man, think about that for a minute will you?

iamangry wrote:

All I was trying to say was that you don't get accepted by showing how your different.  You get accepted by making people comfortable with you.  And gay parades aren't going to do that for you.

I don't know, maybe they're not worried about making people comfortable who are going to dismiss them out of hand at first glance anyway. I know I'm not terribly concerned about that. I do think you're missing the point of the pride parades though. It's not about "Please, please like us and accept us!". It's about people saying "This is who I am. I like who I am. It's okay for me to be who I am. It's okay for you to be who you are too, without fear.". Like many other things in the world, it ain't about you man. It's people who've lived through some serious shit and other people made bold by their example. It's people who don't want to spend the rest of their lives dominated by fear and so they take one single solitary day out of each year and let go. It's people who are what they are and feel, rightly so, that they don't need to spend their entire span on this planet behaving in a fashion meant to pacify people who fucking hate them. That's why they call it "Pride" and not "Subservience".

Hunter why do you defend homosexuals so? Are you trying to hide something? And yes the same can be said about me and my opinions. But I have a personal reason, Whats yours? Is a friend or relative gay? I dont hate all gay's only the ones that showoff, Actually it applies to all people and groups. Be what you are just dont force it down our throats.

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Cougar wrote:

Homosexuals make me sick. 

Unless they are two very attractive, young females (18-30).  Then I can usually handle it, but honestly, how often does that happen?  Never.

Disgusting.

Uhm,.. ???

The new Superman, Jonathan Kent — who is the son of Clark Kent and Lois Lane — will soon begin a romantic relationship with a male friend, DC Comics announced Monday.

That same-sex relationship is just one of the ways that Jonathan Kent, who goes by Jon, is proving to be a different Superman than his famous father. Since his new series, Superman: Son of Kal-El, began in July, Jon has combated wildfires caused by climate change, thwarted a high school shooting and protested the deportation of refugees in Metropolis.

“The idea of replacing Clark Kent with another straight white savior felt like a missed opportunity,” Tom Taylor, who writes the series, said in an interview. He said that a “new Superman had to have new fights — real world problems — that he could stand up to as one of the most powerful people in the world.”

The coming out of Superman, perhaps the most archetypal American superhero, is a notable moment even in an age when many comics have embraced diversity and are exploring pressing social issues. Batman’s sidekick, Robin, recently acknowledged romantic feelings for a male friend (not Dick Grayson — who was Batman’s partner for over four decades — but Tim Drake, a later replacement; there are multiple Robins just as there are multiple Supermen). And a new Aquaman comic stars a gay Black man who is positioned to become the title hero.

Oh no. They can't keep making characters gay. This will make a lot of men very uncomfortable. You spend all day at the Nebraska ammo factory and come home to relax in your comic book room only to be assaulted by seeing this.

DesertFox- wrote:

On the one hand, superheroes have always been pretty gay, and the continual re-invention of story arcs and reboots and resurrections make it less of a problem to say "there's a Blaquaman now". I also get that seeing themselves represented is important to some LGBT people, but it does strike me as a hollow, hacky direction and make me roll my eyes. I don't read comics though, and realistically, the people I know who are into them are way more likely to not be conservative.

We will see how you feel about this in 15 years.

A lot of people who get worked up about stuff like this would probably be less angry if they had a purple haired twink to talk to.

I think enough of them care to make noise about it that it looks that way, but probably isn't. Probably shares a large part of a Venn diagram with the unwashed demographic of people who will make thousand-page threads angrily deconstructing Harry Potter fanfiction. Of course they get worked up about stuff like Muslim superheroes and "blackwashing" rofl.

It is too bad though that so many roles are hand-me-down. Comic books too unimaginative to write something new for various ethnic minorities and lgbtx.

Also too bad that there's infighting between people who dress like superheroes at convention centers, and gays. Both of whom are frequently targeted by sensationalist rags.

uziq wrote:

nerds and misfits getting precious over their ‘safe spaces’.

Ah, its OK to insult, abuse and disrupt the comfort zone of 'nerds and misfits' but not gays obviously.

Hey I know, lets rewrite the classics with engineers, scientists and technologists in the major roles, and rejig the stories accordingly, if some stupid hipsters cry who cares?

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dilbert: islam is a backwards monkey religion, look at them getting upset over a simple cartoon of their prophet!
also dilbert: how DARE these fucking INFIDELS portray MY superhero in such a disrespectful way? this isn't canon reeeEEEeeee!