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Shouldn't schools teach tolerance for everything, not just that being gay is the ideal they should aspire to?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2021-06-14 06:42:52)

Dilbert_X wrote:

Now nerdzique is confused between bestiality and furryism.

Not having a great day with words eh.

Also no, I don't confuse homosexuality with people who aren't, so yes it is about 1% of the population.

How did nerdziques tedious worldview infect yet another thread?

you think gay people make up less than 1% of the world
population. that doesn’t accord with any statistical picture at all. the U.K. literally has an OFFICE OF NATIONAL STATISTICS that polls things like this. it’s 2% of the population at a minimum — and that’s people who self-identify as ‘homosexual’ on a census ffs. many many more people are on the spectrum of bisexuality or curiosity, without it being their avowed ‘orientation’ and public lifestyle.

the fact you think furries and homosexuals are equatable and equally popular is hilarious. one is an ultra-niche internet subculture; the other is a sexual orientation with thousands of years of cultural histories across multiple continents. but i’m sure bronze age man thought aurochs were totally hot. you pathetic bastard.

Last edited by uziq (2021-06-14 11:11:01)

the rhetorical line dilbert is taking is standard homophobic stuff. the notion that homosexuality is a 'perversion' and thus opens the floodgates to all forms of degradation and sinful behaviour. it's an 'open the floodgates'-type argument.

the fact he doesn't understand the objectives of teaching sex-ed in a balanced, neutral way, so that young human beings can discover their sexuality amongst other human beings in a respectful, consensual, and most importantly safe, way, is not surprising. turning animals into objects of sexual desire is not the same thing. human beings enter consensual relationships; sexuality is an expression of their humanity. finding cats a turn on, not so much.

i'm very live-and-let-live about anyone's lifestyle choices, on the broad liberal grounds that, so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, it's strictly the individual's business. but this is not an argument about tolerance. this is one of those hoary old christian-moralist arguments about turning society into a valueless, amoral hellscape as soon as you open the door to let 'the gays' in. dilbert's animal kinks here are merely a rhetorical dogwhistle. he still can't see homosexuality as anything other than an aberration -- which is why he tries to make out its a statistical rounding error. same old bullshit from him, couching his petty views in a sheen of scientism.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation … ityuk/2017

In 2017, an estimated 93.2% of the UK population (49.2 million people) identified as heterosexual or straight, continuing the decline from 2012 (94.4%).

and, again, this is self-reporting and self-identifying, with all of the inherent biases and sensitivities involved, on an official government poll. under-reporting is surely the norm.

Last edited by uziq (2021-06-14 20:37:39)

uziq wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Now nerdzique is confused between bestiality and furryism.

Not having a great day with words eh.

Also no, I don't confuse homosexuality with people who aren't, so yes it is about 1% of the population.

How did nerdziques tedious worldview infect yet another thread?

you think gay people make up less than 1% of the world
population. that doesn’t accord with any statistical picture at all. the U.K. literally has an OFFICE OF NATIONAL STATISTICS that polls things like this. it’s 2% of the population at a minimum — and that’s people who self-identify as ‘homosexual’ on a census ffs. many many more people are on the spectrum of bisexuality or curiosity, without it being their avowed ‘orientation’ and public lifestyle.

the fact you think furries and homosexuals are equatable and equally popular is hilarious. one is an ultra-niche internet subculture; the other is a sexual orientation with thousands of years of cultural histories across multiple continents. but i’m sure bronze age man thought aurochs were totally hot. you pathetic bastard.

LMAO

While every major religion has equated homosexuality with bestiality and decreed the enthusiasts of either are to be put to death, furryism has a long and noble tradition stretching from the dawn of time to the present day.

Do I really have to educate you on this?

lmao dilbert thinks ancient egyptians were furries.

pantheism and the belief that animals have 'spirits' or embody certain deities, or human ancestors, is NOT the same thing as finding a cuddly fox a turn-on.

you fucking kook. hahahah. all those ancient egyptians getting hot n heavy over their pet cats whilst the jews built the pyramids outside. you LITERALLY cannot make this stuff up. it's almost as if reading history is a good idea.

next he'll be telling us that ganesha and other hindu gods with animal forms are evidence of a long history of mixed-species breeding. and what was all that about leda and the swan in the ancient greek pantheon ... egads!

someone explain to dilbert once more the difference between myth/mythopoeic symbolism and history please. i'm going to get vaccinated.

Last edited by uziq (2021-06-15 06:01:44)

uziq wrote:

you think gay people make up less than 1% of the world
population. that doesn’t accord with any statistical picture at all. the U.K. literally has an OFFICE OF NATIONAL STATISTICS that polls things like this. it’s 2% of the population at a minimum — and that’s people who self-identify as ‘homosexual’ on a census ffs. many many more people are on the spectrum of bisexuality or curiosity, without it being their avowed ‘orientation’ and public lifestyle.

But how many people are furry-curious?

the fact you think furries and homosexuals are equatable and equally popular is hilarious. one is an ultra-niche internet subculture; the other is a sexual orientation with thousands of years of cultural histories across multiple continents. but i’m sure bronze age man thought aurochs were totally hot. you pathetic bastard.

Right so what is the tipping point for a minority to be acceptable and mainstream instead of derided?
0.1%?
1%?
10%?

I'm sure there aren't anywhere near as many gays as they'd like us to think there are.
AFAIK it does really hover around 1%.

Shouldn't kids be taught tolerance for minorities, not just gay-worship?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2021-06-16 07:05:42)

Dilbert_X wrote:

All nonsense.

Furryism has been central to humanity since before the beginning of civilisation.
It predates religion

The problems of the modern world are due to people turning away from the true path and adopting gay worship, amongst other depravities.

It's amazing to me that you edited this post, then sat back and thought "yeah that still looks good." You really are a furry, or an ironic furry, who doesn't understand his own fandom. Cranking out some of the strangest ascriptions I've ever seen, and misrepresenting religion and myth in the process.

Even the wacky neopagan stuff about spirit animals and totem quests doesn't really go into furries and being sexually attracted to demihumans and animals. My description was correct. I'll ask you for advice on CAD stuff but certainly not history and human thought.

I am not an "expert" in religion and myth. I took a few classes in college, and read the rest of my way through it. But nowhere have I ever found a description of Neolithic man yiffing it up in a hotel orgy after a hot and sweaty day at the Baltimore convention.

Animism/etc. != "furryism" is something dilbert is just going to have to have a breakthrough with on his own, I think.

The history of the furry fandom is the collective history of science fiction, cartooning, animation, tabletop gaming, role-playing, costuming, and countless other fan communities. Anthropomorphic, or human-like, characters have existed since the earliest examples of human artwork. However, dedicated fans to this genre, in the context of modern fandom, have only come into being in the last forty years.

Fans of funny animal characters, such as those seen in Disney animation and comics or underground comics such as Fritz the Cat, formed the first organized groups in the mid-1970s as artist-centric Amateur Press Associations. Concurrently with the independent comic book boom of the early 1980s, numerous titles featuring anthropomorphic characters rose to prominence, including Albedo Anthropomorphics, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and Usagi Yojimbo.

As a result of the popularity of these works, fans outside of the preexisting funny animal artist groups organized the first general fan parties in the mid-1980s. Based around the shared appreciation of animal characters, the gatherings initially took place at room parties at science fiction conventions, but notably consisted of fans of comics, media such as Star Trek, or even literature such as Watership Down. The diverse population of attendees at these early general parties was the first to dub themselves furry fans.

I mean, there it is described by a furry wiki. I was even going to mention Star Trek as something more on the furry wavelength than ancient history.

What even are they supposed to be?

dilbert is the best (worst) example of bloody-mindedness i have ever seen. he is 'mr. double down'.

the sad joke is that he likes to present himself as the most 'rational' and 'scientifically minded'. i don't think there's much about the enlightenment's scientific values that involves doubling down in the face of contrary or new evidence. if he even cares for evidence at all, that is.

Last edited by uziq (2021-06-16 11:15:00)

All nonsense again.

Furryism has been around in various noble forms all the way from this:



Through this:



Right up to this:



Its you guys who are weird frankly