unnamednewbie13
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I forget you live in a blue state. I would guess any new federal sick requirements would not go as far as what Washington probably already has.

I am fairly certain you own a workshop that builds and repairs trannies.
It would be a nice source of income but it's not really within the company's scope. Whatever keeps your imagination afloat on thoughts that don't involve killing the family dog, though.
unnamednewbie13
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uziq wrote:

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1238837158007447558

it's just flu guys
I was annoyed awhile back at people who were acting hyper aware of the potential danger of this thing, when their attention spans just let it drop off their radar. Now the same elements are taking it seriously again. Like, welcome back to the party?

Except for the stubborn "it's just the flu" Jays out there I guess. Drifting through this whole ordeal with the unshakable confidence of Steamboat Willie.

"I lived through SARS! That means this will definitely be nothing."
Larssen
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Larssen wrote:

What irks me about this crisis is how extremely unstable our 'economic recovery/boom' is. It seems that a month without maximum productivity will instantly topple countless business. Where on earth is the liquidity? Does the private sector have 0 in savings/resilience? It's unbelievable to me that, in my business too, job cuts, removal of all temporary personnel  & work restrictions have already been announced after just one week. Even in the good times the message from above was always 'if we look 2 months ahead we're bankrupt!'. What happened to all those profits...
For a number of businesses, profits get sunk into cost of operation. Not the yacht club. And a number of businesses still haven't completely recovered from the "great recession."
I was referring net profits, not gross. Some industries have done very well in the last 9 years, yet it seems corporate savings were not or barely built up. For companies that have barely turned net profits, yes I understand.

The economic situation returned to growth in most parts of the world from 2013 on. If 6-7 years of healthy market conditions wasn't enough to recover, it stands to reason the economy of the past is no longer the problem.
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"He has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them"
Amazon cracked down on coronavirus price gouging. Now, while the rest of the world searches, some sellers are holding stockpiles of sanitizer and masks.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/tech … llers.html

“It’s been a huge amount of whiplash,” he said. “From being in a situation where what I’ve got coming and going could potentially put my family in a really good place financially to ‘What the heck am I going to do with all of this?’”
I love it. Trying to tug at our heartstrings with how his family has been robbed of the potential for riches. Sad looking profiteer next to his racks upon racks of sanitation supplies.
unnamednewbie13
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Larssen wrote:

I was referring net profits, not gross. Some industries have done very well in the last 9 years, yet it seems corporate savings were not or barely built up. For companies that have barely turned net profits, yes I understand.

The economic situation returned to growth in most parts of the world from 2013 on. If 6-7 years of healthy market conditions wasn't enough to recover, it stands to reason the economy of the past is no longer the problem.
I guess it makes more sense in terms of companies that have been reporting record profits over the course of several years. You could cynically imagine where that money goes after the celebratory layoffs and probably be close to accurate.
Jay
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uziq wrote:

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1238837158007447558

it's just flu guys
He's a moron
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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You people all know you are dead, right?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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^ Oh look, Jay's an expert on epidemiology now.
Your kids will likely kill you
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a … 462030067X

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETBx9F_WkAEyoLG.jpg

Looking at the data it seem clear China has a vaccine, an effective treatment, or probably both.

Guangdong: 1356 cases, 8 deaths (0.6%) 1299 recovered
Italy: 21157 cases, 1441 deaths (6.8%) 1966 recovered

This the same for every region outside Hubei.

Suspicious no?

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SuperJail Warden
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China is lying about what is going down in Wuhan.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1238837158007447558

it's just flu guys
He's a moron
an academic who has been modelling disease spreads at UCL?

l o l
uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

China is lying about what is going down in Wuhan.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/opin … china.html
Dilbert_X
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Yeeeaaah can you copy and paste the first few paragraphs for those of us without a Times account?
That'd be greeeaaat thanks.

But without reading it, the world should have cut off travel from China and quarantined every international arrival from anywhere months ago, like what NZ is doing now.

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uziq
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reading dilbert go full-retard on conspiracy theory in this thread really is something.

same guy who 3 weeks ago was excoriating china for its 'authoritarian' response is now in disbelief that they've stamped out transmission.

can't possibly be to the credit of their health workers, or the immense sacrifices and efforts they've made.

no, they developed this as a weapon to ruin white civilisation and had a secret vaccine all along!

consuming too many Marvel movies. proof that it rots the adult mind.

Yeeeaaah can you copy and paste the first few paragraphs for those of us without a Times account?
That'd be greeeaaat thanks
i don't have a times account/log-in. the article is free for me.

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SuperJail Warden
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If you didn't read it, why link it?

I have a NYT account since I am not a cuck.
https://i.imgur.com/O7W3X8W.png
The article is cucked and from a pedophile. White guy living in Asia. An obvious pedo.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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i did read it. my point was it's not behind a paywall. that was dilbert's complaint. are you dumb?
SuperJail Warden
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Why did you link a cucked article?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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it's an article which states that western inaction has been shocking.

much the same as dilbert has been saying.

unfortunately the cognitive dissonance of acknowledging china, or even a south korea or a taiwan, might have had a good idea by going 'full nuclear' on treatment seemingly also leads people to start saying things like 'cucked' and 'china are keeping secrets'.

keep drinking the kool-aid you literal nut.
Larssen
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You have to be impressed with the force and speed with which the Chinese government can mobilise itself & its people in a time of crisis. I detest the information control and repression they engage in (which we can thank for the spread of this disease as well), but their mix of autocratic and technocratic rule is certainly effective if nothing else. Now that it's in Europe it's also China sending masks, medical equipment and other necessities.
Dilbert_X
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Once you've read more than X articles a month you get blocked, small beer.

I don't remember criticising China except for their revolting habits and secrecy, you must be confusing me with someone else, you accused me of being a fascist in fact.

uziq wrote:

it's amazing how much dilbert has come to sound like a fascist ninny. this could be a Hitler-the-vegan quote.

so there should be a blanket ban on all flights into and out of china, is that what you're saying? international students, foreign workers, tourists, etc, shouldn't be repatriated? just to be clear, here. most countries have tried to localise their travel bans to hotspots/clusters of identified transmission, rather than banning an entire country.
Clearly we should have done more to limit travel, you know like we are now.

I'll copy a map in when I get round to it.
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Dilbert_X
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This is fun
A few people out of Wuhan plus a stupid fucking religion.

https://graphics.reuters.com/CHINA-HEAL … index.html

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On a lot of sites you can mash esc to cancel loading nag screens if you choose.
uziq
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https://theintercept.com/2020/03/14/dis … ronavirus/

has jay ever been more wrong about anything?

also, look! dilbert! the scaremongering about 'evil chinese with secret vaccine' goes both ways!

https://twitter.com/mqmq_mmqq/status/12 … 76801?s=20

there's another story in the german press today about Trump offering germany's top vaccine developers bundles of money for exclusive supply, too.

wow! it's almost as if china aren't a Marvel super-villain!

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Jay
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uziq wrote:

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/14/dispatch-from-an-american-nurse-on-the-frontlines-of-the-effort-to-contain-coronavirus/

has jay ever been more wrong about anything?

also, look! dilbert! the scaremongering about 'evil chinese with secret vaccine' goes both ways!

https://twitter.com/mqmq_mmqq/status/12 … 76801?s=20

there's another story in the german press today about Trump offering germany's top vaccine developers bundles of money for exclusive supply, too.

wow! it's almost as if china aren't a Marvel super-villain!
We should shut down the world every year for two weeks in order to prevent the flu from spreading.

Confirmation bias, uzi. Right now you can find articles telling you the world is ending. People have lost their fucking minds.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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2,700 people have the virus among a population of 329,000,000. 0.0000082067 of the population. We were looking at what? 50,000 deaths, tops? That's how many die every year from the flu in this country. We don't panic, shut down the entire country and go into quarantine. This is the most absurd and irrational thing I've ever been apart of. And I don't know if it's just a function of the pathos of people who vote a certain way, but fuck, left leaning people have lost their entire fucking minds over this shit. Absolutely batshit. Maybe we do need an Obama president, someone to keep these irrational and entirely fragile people from running amock. It is par for the course though  when a conservative feels unsafe he'll go off in the woods by himself. When a liberal feels unsafe he makes the entire world around him change so he can feel safer. I feel hatred for my fellow man right now.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Larssen
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Larssen wrote:

So the entire country of Italy has just been placed in quarantine by its PM.

https://files.catbox.moe/3ns6c1.mp4
@jay, this was 5 days ago. I think the problem people have is that they can't believe it until it's visualised.

Even China quarantined and has a death rate close to 4% on its confirmed cases.

Last edited by Larssen (2020-03-15 04:16:35)

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