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2025-02-01 00:42:06
unnamednewbie13
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No survivors expected after air ambulance carrying 6 crashes in Philadelphia, aircraft company says
Among the people on board was a child who had come to the U.S. for "life-saving treatment" and was going back home, a spokesperson for Jet Rescue Air Ambulance said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ph … rcna190262

don't watch the videos if you don't want to see real-life lawn-darting.

https://i.imgur.com/4y7htDp.jpeg
when people posted this meme, others replied "just give it some time." the 31st delivers more horrible carnage. in these trying times, i would not be surprised to see trump telling aviation safety to further tighten its belt.

to balance out recent parts of this thread, commentary on the blackhawk-involved collision:

2025-02-01 00:49:26
Dilbert_X
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I think the solution is deregulation because thats the solution to everything.

For the blackhawk thing it seems we've already made it to:

But this is how we've always done it - apart from increasing usage of the airport well beyond design capacity

But we've never had a problem - apart from multiple near-misses including one the day before

Literally no-one could have foreseen this - apart from the multiple people who did foresee it but got howled down
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2025-02-01 00:54:01
Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

https://i.imgur.com/4y7htDp.jpeg
when people posted this meme, others replied "just give it some time." the 31st delivers more horrible carnage. in these trying times,
Thank god Trump is a financial genius and can re-order the world and its economy through the simple tool of blunt sanctions.

I mean, having bankrupted his own businesses at least six times (not counting the times his father bailed him out) he must have learnt something along the way right?

https://img.ifunny.co/images/2c6971aa8f3b62a1cc6a49f2361579e3dc671e1ca2643010b851523b7e519f22_1.webp
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2025-02-01 01:14:17
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people just feel like they identify with him more for this scumminess tho.
2025-02-01 01:45:39
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january just won't end

Exclusive: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency, sources say
By Tim Reid
January 31, 20252:20 PM PSTUpdated 10 hours ago

Musk, the billionaire Tesla (TSLA.O), opens new tab CEO and X owner tasked by Trump to slash the size of the 2.2 million-strong civilian government workforce, has moved swiftly to install allies at the agency known as the Office of Personnel Management.

The two officials, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation, said some senior career employees at OPM have had their access revoked to some of the department's data systems.

The systems include a vast database called Enterprise Human Resources Integration, which contains dates of birth, Social Security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades and length of service of government workers, the officials said.

"We have no visibility into what they are doing with the computer and data systems," one of the officials said. "That is creating great concern. There is no oversight. It creates real cybersecurity and hacking implications."

Officials affected by the move can still log on and access functions such as email but can no longer see the massive datasets that cover every facet of the federal workforce.

Musk, OPM, representatives of the new team, and the White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

OPM has sent out memos that eschew the normal dry wording of government missives as it encourages civil servants to consider buyout offers to quit and take a vacation to a "dream destination."

Don Moynihan, a professor at the Ford School of Public Policy at the University of Michigan, said the actions inside OPM raised concerns about congressional oversight at the agency and how Trump and Musk view the federal bureaucracy.

"This makes it much harder for anyone outside Musk's inner circle at OPM to know what's going on," Moynihan said.

[…]

more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-a … 025-01-31/
i can't even think of what to say to the next trump voter who complains to me about the price of eggs.
2025-02-01 09:11:25
SuperJail Warden
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The Egg People, distinct creatures from Pig People, won't be able to understand any of this administrative stuff. Instead of trying to understand it or do the work they will just disregard it. At worse they will default to blaming Democrats/DEI.

...

The Republican party's majority in the House is too slim to pass any major legislation. I don't think they will be able to even pass a tax cut bill through reconciliation.

The Trump administration seems to want to do everything with Executive Orders because they know they can't get anything through Congress in the traditional way. In the meantime Trump and Musk will collapse the Federal government. I would say they plan to rebuild it with their supporters but I don't think it that will happen. It is too hard to rebuild something that big.

Instead everything will get a bit worse collectively until the midterms or Trump gets July 20th.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-02-01 11:55:25
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Q&A with Former Navajo Nation Vice President on Incoming 2nd Trump Administration 

What is your reaction to this election?

I was featured on stage at a Trump rally in Albuquerque last week. I had just two, three minutes to really bring hope, provide encouragement, and let President Trump know that Indian Country is out there, and we have a lot of valid issues. We have a lot of history of the government failing us, and broken promises, broken treaties.

Have you been contacted by the Trump team soliciting your advice?

Yes, the contact is ongoing, collaborative, and, of course, I’m trying to garner more attention for all of our issues, all the plights of Indian Country. To recite a part of my speech in Albuquerque last week, the left wing and the right wing are of the same bird.

I fully expected Trump to win. Seeing the tide turn, and then it was revealed in those numbers. Even though we are 1 percent of the voting block in this great United States, 64 percent of the Native American voted red, voted for President Trump.

Biden-Harris, to their credit, they advanced Indian Country a lot. And now Trump can advance. They are in queue. Now it's their time. We need one another, getting messaging and policy recommendations, getting rid of the hierarchy of layers and layers of federal bureaucracy that has stymied advancement in Indian Country.

We have the land, we have the resources, if the federal government would let us tap into them more readily, we are sovereign. Who out there would use our sovereignty? Who would like to use our sovereignty as an unfair or a competitive advantage? That's what I'm interested in. Those are the discussions that I'm pursuing currently.

Have you been offered a position in Trump's administration?

There's been hints of it from various respectable and good sources. I'm standing there ready for what may come. I will be a strong advocate for Indian Country.

more: https://nativenewsonline.net/currents/q … nistration
Reports of Navajo people being detained in immigration sweeps sparks concern from tribal leaders
The DOJ argued in court that Indigenous people don’t have birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment, so neither should children of noncitizens born in the US

As U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement intensifies its efforts to apprehend and deport undocumented immigrants throughout the country, concern is rising among Indigenous communities residing in urban areas about reports of Indigenous people being detained in the Valley.

Since President Donald Trump issued his executive order for an increase in ICE raids, Navajo tribal leaders have received alarming reports that their tribal members are being detained, heightening uncertainties over the implications these actions have for their communities and the safety of their people.

“We now know that Navajo people and enrolled members of other tribes are being detained in Phoenix and other cities by ICE,” Navajo Nation Council Speaker Crystalyne Curley said during a committee meeting on Thursday. “The reports that we have received indicate that we need to coordinate an operation or some type of response to help our enrolled tribal members here on the Navajo Nation.”

more: https://azmirror.com/2025/01/24/reports … l-leaders/
in hindsight, drinking the leopard-brand koolaid was probably a bad idea
2025-02-01 12:06:26
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the problem is that the democrats have taken the vote of these groups for granted for quite a while now. even if they're voting to spite themselves, evidently they have become tired of being the pet minority or token feelgood demographic. i can see why a lot of african american or latin or native or arab or whatever voting blocs would prefer the more straight-shootin' form of republican motherfucker. at least they're open and unabashed with their racism.

in retrospect, having a number of dem senators professing their indian heritage after a navajo pubic hair got into their genealogy in 1873 was probably not the best optics.

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2025-02-01 12:15:14
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true, but it seems like a daring gambit jumping from the democrats, who hold you in barely concealed disdain, to the republicans. in 2024.
2025-02-01 13:16:30
SuperJail Warden
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MAGA is a bigger and more open political movement than whatever the Democrats are offering.

Let that sink in for a moment. All you need to do is wear the hat and say Trump is great and they will add you to the Latinos for Trump or Blacks for Trump group. The MAGA people have constant rallies, parties and events.

I am involved in organizing for the Democrat labor groups in what is supposed to be the center of gravity for Democrats in NJ, a blue state. The Democrat party is totally closed off. My only on is through the teacher Union. Otherwise they don't hold events or rallies. They don't do outreach or any of that. It is because the Italian and Irish politicians who run the Democrat machine in our blue state do not want to open it up. They are afraid they will lose control of it. They rather sit at the top of a minority party than be a supporting member of a winning coalition.

And frankly, the whole Democrat machine in our area is made up of Italian, and Irish older people. The Hispanic and Arabs which now makes up the majority of the population are shut out. No wonder MAGA made inroads with that group. The Italians and Irish won't even invite us to the party.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-02-01 13:26:36
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jimmy hoffa's revenge.
2025-02-01 16:16:15
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https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1885674587532222464/AzPqMZVi?format=jpg&name=small

wonderful atmosphere
2025-02-01 19:46:57
Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

MAGA is a bigger and more open political movement than whatever the Democrats are offering.
The Irish, Italians and jews self-segregate wherever they go.
Their backward looking lives are dead ends now, they will be replaced by hispanics and arabs who are already bored with hearing about 'the old country'.
If it was so great why did they leave?

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2025-02-01 23:22:54
unnamednewbie13
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

MAGA is a bigger and more open political movement than whatever the Democrats are offering.
topical, spotted elsewhere:
https://i.imgur.com/5mM7ID6.jpeg
fact-check as you will

and this golden oldie in the replies:
https://i.imgur.com/dXa956a.png


the two parties suck, but surely there are better decisions available than getting in bed with the face-eating leopards even as they're gnawing on human faces. this is something you do in a game only after hitting quicksave.

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2025-02-01 23:56:10
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

MAGA is a bigger and more open political movement than whatever the Democrats are offering.
The Irish, Italians and jews self-segregate wherever they go.
Their backward looking lives are dead ends now, they will be replaced by hispanics and arabs who are already bored with hearing about 'the old country'.
If it was so great why did they leave?
well, the irish mainly left because of a potato famine caused by your ancestors.

awkwaaaard!

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2025-02-02 01:03:41
Dilbert_X
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I don't know who my ancestors were, how do you know?
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2025-02-02 02:06:52
uziq
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the expat-in-australia bigot act is a very old one.
2025-02-03 04:44:52
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dilbert gets what he wants

The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk's Government Takeover
Engineers between 19 and 24, most linked to Musk’s companies, are playing a key role as he seizes control of federal infrastructure.

Elon Musk’s takeover of federal government infrastructure is ongoing, and at the center of things is a coterie of engineers who are barely out of—and in at least one case, purportedly still in—college. Most have connections to Musk and at least two have connections to Musk’s longtime associate Peter Thiel, a cofounder and chairman of the analytics firm and government contractor Palantir who has long expressed opposition to democracy.

WIRED has identified six young men—all apparently between the ages of 19 and 24, according to public databases, their online presences, and other records—who have little to no government experience and are now playing critical roles in Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) project, tasked by executive order with “modernizing Federal technology and software to maximize governmental efficiency and productivity.” The engineers all hold nebulous job titles within DOGE, and at least one appears to be working as a volunteer.

The engineers are Akash Bobba, Edward Coristine, Luke Farritor, Gautier Cole Killian, Gavin Kliger, and Ethan Shaotran. None have responded to requests for comment from WIRED. Representatives from OPM, GSA, and DOGE did not respond to requests for comment.

Already, Musk’s lackeys have taken control of the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) and General Services Administration (GSA), and have gained access to the Treasury Department’s payment system, potentially allowing him access to a vast range of sensitive information about tens of millions of citizens, businesses, and more. On Sunday, CNN reported that DOGE personnel attempted to improperly access classified information and security systems at the US Agency for International Development (USAID), and that top USAID security officials who thwarted the attempt were subsequently put on leave. The AP reported that DOGE personnel had indeed accessed classified material.

“What we're seeing is unprecedented in that you have these actors who are not really public officials gaining access to the most sensitive data in government,” says Don Moynihan, a professor of public policy at the University of Michigan. “We really have very little eyes on what's going on. Congress has no ability to really intervene and monitor what's happening because these aren't really accountable public officials. So this feels like a hostile takeover of the machinery of governments by the richest man in the world.”

more: https://archive.ph/QYBhK#selection-553.0-557.132
junior techbros
2025-02-03 05:33:00
uziq
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"no! not like that! i mean differently!"

[said to the last 17 times from world history in which engineers have been brought into government as know-it-alls and problem-solvers, with predictably bad results]
2025-02-04 01:04:34
Dilbert_X
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This is gold.

It seems like only yesterday having your rich daddy send you to an elite school followed by 3-4 years of louche lounging at Oxbridge reading 'Classics' or whatever automatically qualified people for any job they felt like having a go at.

And why is it assumed engineers can't do any job they turn their hand to? It seems everyone else believes they can, even people with MBAs.

The worm has turned, the boot is on his foot now, this can only be amazing.
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2025-02-04 01:15:58
uziq
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why do you keep conflating very different things?

i don’t think the payrolls department that musk has installed his little autistic a-team inside was formerly staffed by yale WASPs, dilbert.

why is musk stripping USAID, a tiny department that isn’t exactly draining the state’s coffers? could it be because of its historical involvement in the last days of apartheid south africa? make u think.

but yes, ‘the worm has turned’. dilbert’s life-long imaginary foes are getting their comeuppance and the world’s richest man has been given the keys to delete the federal government. how awesome!

it really is a big tell that all the men - and it is invariably men - who are squealing with delight over this are such fucking dweebs. every stereotype about bootlicking authoritarian types is true. ‘nnnhgggg nnnyes! show those louche and overconfident payrolls people who is boss!!!’

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2025-02-04 01:28:02
Dilbert_X
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No I mean the sort of people who ran government - triggered a coup here, enabled a dictator there, sat back and let a famine happen elsewhere, destroyed an industry or way of life somewhere else to 'stick it to the proles', and all before tea, were invariably arts toffs.
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2025-02-04 01:50:47
uziq
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again, you're conflating the 'deep state' and intelligence services or some half-imagined idea of the mandarinate with, erm, the fucking payrolls department and bog-standard day-to-day administration.

for a STEM rational ruler of the universe, you are oddly vulnerable to logical fallacies. 'eye cancer is bad. as a treatment, we just gave you herpes. but hey, eye cancer is bad remember!'

and, besides, what qualifies an unelected rich autistic man to start firing FBI agents? apparently 100s of agents who were investigating jan. 6th have basically been fired or sidelined. this sort of unaccountable mafioso behaviour is 'good' to you, just because it flips a V to all those establishment princeton types?

triggered a coup here
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EksIy3aW0AEIsK-.jpg

???

destroyed an industry or way of life somewhere else to 'stick it to the proles'
who is this in relation to? none of the leading republicans/democrats or 'toff' conservatives who oversaw the rapid deindustrialisation of the USA/UK were snobby art collectors. that stuff took place under reagan/thatcher (economics and chemistry by way of years in industry) and through into the clinton/blair years (lawyers), you absolute midwit.

and you're really defending the right of billionaires to run the government as a closed shop of nepotism and personal preference because ... you hate it when people treat the working-class proles badly? hahahahahahah. take a look again at the front row of guests at trump's inauguration. your STEM lords like jeff bezos, and their suicide-factory 'fulfillment centres', are far more damaging to the nobility of the western worker than anything an effete snob has cooked up.

grow up. you have a teenager's marvel movie fash brain.

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2025-02-04 02:02:30
Dilbert_X
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Musk is a genius, everything is going to be great.
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2025-02-04 02:12:05
uziq
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musk can't tell the difference between communism and fascism, he's a ketamine addict who wouldn't pass a mandatory drug-screening like any other public servant, and he's expressly going after tiny and irrelevant organs of the state like USAID because they ruined his little childhood paradise in south africa with their 'woke mind virus' that said, erm, racial apartheid states were bad.

again, you live in comic book fantasy world where your ‘good’ guys are going to wipe away the corrupt and decadent. not realising that the billionaire CEO class and tech-goons are far worse, far more liable to corruption, far more interested in their own SF version of hedonism and decadence, than the old lot.

the idea that musk is delivering a hammer of retribution to ‘those who would coup and oppress the little man’ is fucking hilarious. musk has been globetrotting his entire career paying fealty to any form of political power that will serve his ends. you’re projecting all sorts of principles onto ‘engineers’ that they don’t necessarily have any more or less of than any other type of graduate (as if it needs to be said).

this exact playbook - of hiring a ‘crack team’ of ‘global talent’ for the inner sanctum of unaccountable governance - was tried before by dominic cummings. both times it turned out to be a form of shadow governance by a highly idiosyncratic and crankish individual with a bunch of 20-year-olds around him. very odd dynamic. and that worked so well during the boris-cummings years, didn’t it? he sure showed the corrupt whitehall establishment!

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