The average Trump voter made above the average median income.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46896849uziq wrote:
the perception of an order of capitalist elites who don’t understand the common man.
Goldman Sachs new boss has apologised to Malaysia for the role an ex-partner played in the corruption scandal at one of the country's wealth funds.
However, chief executive David Solomon also distanced the bank from the scheme, which saw billions embezzled from the state development fund, 1MDB.
He said Goldman, which had helped to raise money for the fund, had been deceived about details of the deals.
Malaysia filed criminal charges against Goldman last month.
Goldman helped raise money for 1MDB, by underwriting more than $6bn in bonds in three separate offerings between 2012 and 2013.
It earned $600m for that work, according to authorities.
Much of the money intended for the fund was allegedly embezzled and used to buy art, property, a private jet - and even to finance the Wolf of Wall Street film starring Leonardo DiCaprio.
Malaysia's former prime minister, Najib Razak is among those who have been accused of pocketing the money. He has pleaded not guilty. That case is scheduled for trial in Malaysia later this year.
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Only the Democrats ever do that.Jay wrote:
They brand themselves as champions of the people but only care about power.
Come on, I'm pretty sure he realizes there are plenty of Republicans that do that too. *cough* Mitt Romney *cough*Dilbert_X wrote:
Only the Democrats ever do that.Jay wrote:
They brand themselves as champions of the people but only care about power.
yes, but that's not what i was asking. you said "desiring a strongman absolute leader is very fucking pre-capitalist", yet even now, when capitalism is in its historical apogee, trumps still get voted in. how so? my point is, capitalism has nothing to do with "bourgeois-secular mindset" and stuff like that. in fact, ideologically capitalism is very much omnivorous - it will use anything out there to get in power and stay in power. a long time ago when bourgeois revolutions where overturning feudalism (and worse) around the world, the notions and ideals produced in the masses by developing economical systems played a huge role, but it's all but gone today in the information age, imo.uziq wrote:
economic depressions always create the same political patterns.Shahter wrote:
all fair ponts. but people who, supposedly, did have time to "develop a bourgeois-secular mindset organically" still elect trumps and bolsonaros today. wonder why?uziq wrote:
russian voters want a strong and authoritative leader because they are basically peasants who weren't given proper time to develop a bourgeois-secular mindset like the western countries did organically. putin is like stalin is like nicholas: tsars, gods-on-earth for the orthodox and credulous. funny that you blame capitalism for this problem with the agenda-driven ruling classes. desiring a strongman absolute leader is very fucking pre-capitalist.
but is it in reality all that responsive? outside of periods it time when so called "western democracies" play their "games of elections", when people are given a right to choose between a douche and a turd (both produced by the ruling class, of course), nobody gives a hoot about "social feelings and unrest". and during the elections those are only used to identify what kind of trump or clinton (or putin) will get the most votes to legitimize the whole shebang for another 4 years.i’d rather have a politics that is responsive to the market and expressive of social feelings and unrest
personally i don't give a damn. so, yeah, my fellow russians never gone through the motions of "proper" growth through all the stages of economical and political development - first they were lagging behind the west, then bolsheviks tried to push them forward, skipping a step of developing a proper capitalism for themselves, but failed, and now they've been thrown back into an ugly kind of "state capitalism" (which, tbqh, is starting to reek of blatant fascism) - yeah, it's all fucked up. but look at the west, at your trumps and clintons and all the crap going on in eu - you ask me, we are all equally screwed.than an authoritarian regime that lines the pockets of their family and friends and runs the entire country into ruin.
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Jay, the libertarian - people should be free to move to wherever they can work. If people can't find jobs in their own area, they need to move to where the jobs are!Jay wrote:
I particularly dislike her because she swooped into my state after Bill left office and decided she wanted to be my senator. An outsider from Arkansas as the state senator from New York. She's supposed to represent me? She was only representing her own ambitions. Garbage like that is why I don't vote Democrat. They talk out of both sides of their mouth. They brand themselves as champions of the people but only care about power. The guy she replaced, D'Amato, for all his faults actually gave off the impression that he cared about the people living here. She just bought a house in Westchester and lived out her power fantasies in DC.
I really hurt your feelings at some point, didn't I? You're starting to behave like coke.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Jay, the libertarian - people should be free to move to wherever they can work. If people can't find jobs in their own area, they need to move to where the jobs are!Jay wrote:
I particularly dislike her because she swooped into my state after Bill left office and decided she wanted to be my senator. An outsider from Arkansas as the state senator from New York. She's supposed to represent me? She was only representing her own ambitions. Garbage like that is why I don't vote Democrat. They talk out of both sides of their mouth. They brand themselves as champions of the people but only care about power. The guy she replaced, D'Amato, for all his faults actually gave off the impression that he cared about the people living here. She just bought a house in Westchester and lived out her power fantasies in DC.
Jay, also: fuck hillary for moving to New York to run for Senate.
Anything more specific?Shahter wrote:
many times.
I haven't which is why I was asking.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Has anyone here been to Russia either?
i like calling people out on their hypocrisy. You have a key trait of a bad leader - "do as i say, not as i do".Jay wrote:
I really hurt your feelings at some point, didn't I? You're starting to behave like coke.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Jay, the libertarian - people should be free to move to wherever they can work. If people can't find jobs in their own area, they need to move to where the jobs are!Jay wrote:
I particularly dislike her because she swooped into my state after Bill left office and decided she wanted to be my senator. An outsider from Arkansas as the state senator from New York. She's supposed to represent me? She was only representing her own ambitions. Garbage like that is why I don't vote Democrat. They talk out of both sides of their mouth. They brand themselves as champions of the people but only care about power. The guy she replaced, D'Amato, for all his faults actually gave off the impression that he cared about the people living here. She just bought a house in Westchester and lived out her power fantasies in DC.
Jay, also: fuck hillary for moving to New York to run for Senate.
I don't agree with a lot of democrat social policy but at least they are honest about what they want. Conservatives tend to lie or obfuscate about what they want. The GOP and their supporters also either live in an alternate reality or lie all the time. I like reading Conservatives online magazines but once I get to the comment section I am reminded how stupid or purposely deceitful the entire movement is.Dilbert_X wrote:
Only the Democrats ever do that.Jay wrote:
They brand themselves as champions of the people but only care about power.
no, but im thinking about going back to school for another undergraduate degree!SuperJail Warden wrote:
Ken did you just start a MBA class on executive leadership or are you an aspiring leadership coach?
Behaving like me in that he's pointing out when you're being a moron...KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
i like calling people out on their hypocrisy. You have a key trait of a bad leader - "do as i say, not as i do".Jay wrote:
I really hurt your feelings at some point, didn't I? You're starting to behave like coke.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Jay, the libertarian - people should be free to move to wherever they can work. If people can't find jobs in their own area, they need to move to where the jobs are!
Jay, also: fuck hillary for moving to New York to run for Senate.