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So does jewish ideology, jews are the greatest and come first and you can't be jewish unless you're genetically jewish on your mother's line.

At least Islam allows converts.

As cults go its not top of my list.

Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

sounds like you're describing your precious northern/western european cultures from 1600–1950...

Its human beings in general, at the extreme end they're about the same, Nazis, jews, muslims, there's no real difference. Except the last two have been around a lot longer - you'd think they would have progressed a little.

so you've essentially reversed your original statement entirely. good o.

and shouldn't it be the other way around? white europeans in 1935 should have known better? after all, they had a cultural renaissance, a major religious reformation, the dawning of the scientific enlightenment, several political revolutions – all this within their cultural heritage. but no, they still made up a bunch of silly cults, dressed as pagans and pranced around the woods at summer solstice, built lots of modern housing in the manner of rustic 16th cottages, took norse names as alternatives to their christian-baptised names (good little peter becoming Odin or Hermann), released pamphlets encouraging citizens to fuck in the graveyards of war dead so the 'souls of the fallen' would be reborn in their fresh stock, based their headquarters at castles that lie on ancient ley lines (himmler's SS), sent off pseudo-scientific expeditions to the himalayas to try and find dressed up evidence of the link between aryan cultures and germanic ones (hitler also said that ancient greeks and romans, latin and mediterranean cultures, were 'nordic aryans'), and, finally, of course, blindly shipped off 8 million people to industrialised factory-line murder based on a bunch of ancient superstitions (oh and a terribly written fake book, the protocols...)

so shouldn't your great white hope have known better? seems like a terrible regression to me. so much for those effortlessly superior north european cultures. at least the abrahamic religions can claim to merely be following a tradition that has two and a half millennia of weight behind it.

Last edited by uziq (2017-03-05 02:43:25)

what an edge lord pointing out that religious belief is akin to superstition. wow wow wow wowwww. move over dennet and dawkins.

so what about all those nazi superstitions? a few of them still cling today. like all that stuff about 'aryan supremacy'. you can't seriously say for one minute that there's any truth or scientific credibility in that. it was a complete waste of time even trying to construe a link between the mongrel dogs of germanic tribes with an aryan civilisation.

one of the german rocket scientists said that he lost two years of his career trying to prove that the earth as we knew it was a middle realm inside a giant hollow planet ... with another upper world above the sky. these really are projects that the nazi state funded. those rational westerners!

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you mean those three tiny countries who were second-rate imperial powers through the entire industrial phase of European civilisation, largely retaining their peasant-agricultural culture and traditions (denmark is essentially a country of pious pig farmers), and now are shooting way out ahead in the last century's development indexes because they have huge reserves of state-owned oil? okay, super advanced culture there.

and you do know those nordic countries are much more religious in their everyday life, right? they are very christian countries in their everyday traditions and mores. a lot of superstition. the nordic states were considered to be barbarians for much of european history. pagans, warlike, nomadic, the opposite of civilisation as it was occurring elsewhere on the continent. introducing christianity to them was considered a bumper upgrade for their civilisation.

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it's not the best available for any reasons tied to their culture or fucking race, dilbert. it's the same social democracy as has been tried and implemented in many other countries at various junctures. their social democratic experiment is easier than most – low populations, huge reserves of state wealth thanks to oil, relatively homogeneous cultures due to their remoteness, little or no post-colonial legacy to deal with. they're playing the game on the 'easy' difficulty setting. don't start rhapsodising 'nordic peoples' like they are some super-race. that's just confirming your little wet dream fantasies because you're scared of brown people and asian women won't sleep with you for anything less than $2000 AUS.

Last edited by uziq (2017-03-05 04:01:39)

uziq wrote:

it's not the best available for any reasons tied to their culture or fucking race, dilbert. it's the same social democracy as has been tried and implemented in many other countries at various junctures. their social democratic experiment is easier than most – low populations, huge reserves of state wealth thanks to oil, relatively homogeneous cultures due to their remoteness, little or no post-colonial legacy to deal with. they're playing the game on the 'easy' difficulty setting. don't start rhapsodising 'nordic peoples' like they are some super-race. that's just confirming your little wet dream fantasies because you're scared of brown people and asian women won't sleep with you for anything less than $2000 AUS.

fuck me 2k for an asian prostie? dilbs must be on some blacklist then.

but yeah dilbs raving on about the nords is hilarious considering hes living in the #2 country in HDI.

if you dont like it you can fuck off dilbs.

Norway is #1 in HDI, I rest my case. I guess Sweden has been pulled down by all the muslims.

Getting back on topic, no I've never paid $2000 for an Asian.

I didn't bring up HDI you mong.

Why would I hate living there? I already pay tax here believe it or not.

I think I may have to start posting my girl-problems to get this thread back on track.

Maybe your ancestors were sent away, they were costing the state too much with their slacking.

i actually think america CAN learn a lot from the nordic countries. i am not criticising social democracies. i think they are the best form of government we have available so long as capitalism is the basic and necessary driver of the world. but it would be naive and ignorant to suggest they don't have advantages that, say, the UK with its high population density does not have. considering the other forms of government they could have with all that wealth, i think there's something to be celebrated that they're distributing it according to a social ideal. i also don't have a problem with the segregated education systems – the uk used to have it, germany still does; france has an attenuated version of it – because i think a huge amount of harm is done in the 'consumer-oriented' anglo-american world when we send every precious little darling to university when they're really not intellectual.

americans are probably too quick to dismiss the nordic countries because they show that another version of society under capitalism is possible.

dilbert on the other hand celebrates them for entirely disingenuous reasons. there's nothing special about nordic cultures. they are friendly enough people but the cultures are extremely narrow minded, limited, and infected with a very major and very real groupthink. they are christians and just as superstitious as any catholic-latin countries (i'd say the uk and germany are pretty reasonable in comparison; we are empirical peoples and only tend to believe what we see before our eyes). everyone in scandinavia has the same furniture, the same cashmere-cotton sweaters in several shades of taupe, the same liberal and enlightened views on everything. all pretty inoffensive, as far as it goes, but i don't think they're this exemplar of western culture; they are very sheltered and oddly divorced from the modern global order and economy that they have so benefitted and cocooned themselves from. dilbert uses their successful economic model (read again: huge oil reserves) as some sort of validation for his islamophobia.

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uziq wrote:

i actually think america CAN learn a lot from the nordic countries. i am not criticising social democracies. i think they are the best form of government we have available so long as capitalism is the basic and necessary driver of the world. but it would be naive and ignorant to suggest they don't have advantages that, say, the UK with its high population density does not have. considering the other forms of government they could have with all that wealth, i think there's something to be celebrated that they're distributing it according to a social ideal. i also don't have a problem with the segregated education systems – the uk used to have it, germany still does; france has an attenuated version of it – because i think a huge amount of harm is done in the 'consumer-oriented' anglo-american world when we send every precious little darling to university when they're really not intellectual.

americans are probably too quick to dismiss the nordic countries because they show that another version of society under capitalism is possible.

dilbert on the other hand celebrates them for entirely disingenuous reasons. there's nothing special about nordic cultures. they are friendly enough people but the cultures are extremely narrow minded, limited, and infected with a very major and very real groupthink. they are christians and just as superstitious as any catholic-latin countries (i'd say the uk and germany are pretty reasonable in comparison; we are empirical peoples and only tend to believe what we see before our eyes). everyone in scandinavia has the same furniture, the same cashmere-cotton sweaters in several shades of taupe, the same liberal and enlightened views on everything. all pretty inoffensive, as far as it goes, but i don't think they're this exemplar of western culture. dilbert uses their successful economic model (read again: huge oil reserves) as some sort of validation for his islamophobia.

If you had been paying attention to his posts over the years, that sameness is what he craves. He prefers a well ordered society to chaos. From that perspective, they are superior.