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Dilbert_X wrote:

"Assault and harassment", 8" 'butter knife', completely bemused why the police were called, no idea why you were put in the cells and bailed for a month, thrown out of your house over 'nothing'.

OK sure.

do you even know what bail is lmao

crazy isn’t it.

I mentioned that before. Uzique called me a mongrel in response.

am i supposed to somehow feel grateful that i didn’t get shot to death for doing nothing more antisocial than playing music loudly and having a domestic argument?

like i don’t know how to answer to americans who say ‘consider yourself lucky that your police force aren’t a murderous, racist and mostly unaccountable bunch of thugs’.

i could have been anywhere in europe or east asia or really anywhere else in the civilised world and not been at threat of being shot to death over a house call. this isn’t ’white privilege’, it’s the cops doing the job they’re trained for fucking properly.

very strong argument though guys. smugly clap yourselves on the back because you live in a failed police state.

You're lucky that you weren't in America making heart signs at our cops:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/129909067 … -us-police

uziq wrote:

if i had a more serious criminal rap sheet i wouldn't be ashamed of admitting it here to 4 regular readers. the simple fact is i don't. my very BEING resident in korea is a clear and obvious proof that i don't.

Thats not the issue, the question is what really happened -  and your story has changed multiple times now, that you don't have a criminal record is irrelevant.

you claiming i could 'pay' my way out of it or had 'special privileges' really is just such nonsense. yes, a 19-year-old drug-addled kid had the powers and influence to make a MURDEROUS KNIFE THREAT go away.

The point was that as a white kid in a leafy suburb you'd be treated differently to a black kid in Brixton.

I'm guessing your Oxford-reject housemates were happy to see you carted off, but then self-preservation kicked in and they decided or were advised they didn't really want to press charges, didn't really want to have to make statements, attend court etc. because that stuff doesn't get wiped away.

"So tell us again young Tarquin/Henrietta, how long did you know little uziq was taking what are now illegal mind-altering substances on an industrial scale? Six months you say? And right under your nose? And you weren't involved at all?"

With no statements, no willing witnesses and nothing at the time illegal found the Police probably didn't have a whole lot they could press even if they wanted to.

Dilbert_X wrote:

With no statements, no willing witnesses and nothing at the time illegal found the Police probably didn't have a whole lot they could press even if they wanted to.

yeah kinda how it works... "nothing illegal happened" the fuck you want them to do? waste tax payers money on non-existent charges?

ah yes, because when a person gets arrested for threatening GBH with a lethal weapon, they are bailed the next day and allowed to return to the exact same residential property.

again, don’t quit your day job, defective dilderp.

I've looked it up and (tentatively, because I'm not intimately familiar in depth with details for being allowed to take up residency, though I didn't see past convictions listed?) South Korea is one country a convicted felon may travel to. For a hypothetical American, so long as they finish probation, have no outstanding warrants, and possess a valid passport.

It seems more telling that zeek wasn't ejected from college over "threats of violent crime," and is now living abroad doing remote work at his leisure at all, than whether or not SK let him in.

So this line of questioning and nudgery seems pretty obnoxious to me, but hey you do you.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2022-09-22 09:34:08)

On that, I know a couple of people who have spooky ouija stories. It annoyed one person telling their story when I expressed doubt, but the planchette getting flung off the board still sounds like something startled players could do.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2022-09-22 10:11:07)

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I've looked it up and (tentatively, because I'm not intimately familiar in depth with details for being allowed to take up residency, though I didn't see past convictions listed?) South Korea is one country a convicted felon may travel to. For a hypothetical American, so long as they finish probation, have no outstanding warrants, and possess a valid passport.

It seems more telling that zeek wasn't ejected from college over "threats of violent crime," and is now living abroad doing remote work at his leisure at all, than whether or not SK let him in.

So this line of questioning and nudgery seems pretty obnoxious to me, but hey you do you.

i’m not american and we don’t have the same diplomatic relations with korea. very silly line of approach.

to get a working visa you have to submit a criminal background check. the embassy won’t even consider your application until you can provide a clean record and a clean bill of health.

the visas are competitive and limited in number each year. there is no way anyone could come out here from britain with a criminal record to find work. i doubt even a spent conviction would do. if at any point you want to interact with children, e.g. as a private tutor, you have to submit an enhanced CRB, which will literally printout every single thing the police database - not the public record - has on you, including times arrested and kept in jail, for instance. 

if they were to see that, your application would be summarily rejected. again, it’s limited in number; we don’t enjoy special travel privileges like americans (who could come to korea for almost all of the pandemic even when every other country had banned flights, for instance); there would no chance to call up an embassy worker and explain those minor indiscretions away. i wouldn’t be here if i had any police dirt on me. period.

not even that, but my background check had to be submitted to the bloody Foreign Office to be verified and apostilled. that is, i had to have a UK diplomat look over and approve my shit even before the koreans could look at it. i think they would have flagged the ‘assault with a lethal weapon’ thing at some point.

this whole convo is literally ludicrous. only one person here has gone through this whole process and yet i’m being told why the police didn’t press charges against me 10 years ago and why i managed to graduate and move abroad. lmao ffs. you lot must be reallllllly bored.

Last edited by uziq (2022-09-22 10:48:24)

Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

bailed the next day and allowed to return to the exact same residential property.

How do we know this is true though?

because i was posting on the forum practically the very next day as soon as i got my phone back lol.

how long do you think a person can legally be held in jail without charges being pressed dilbert? as i said, i’m not a terrorist or a risk to national security. there’s a very short and very finite limit on how long you can detain someone in a local jail. this isn’t the states. i wasn’t sent to rikers island for 400 days pre-trial.

in fact, i was only kept there overnight because they insisted i had a psych worker evaluate me for my drug intoxication and frame of mind before releasing me. i was arrested in the early hours and there were no ‘state defender’-type psych workers available until 8am the next morning. so i stayed overnight for that reason.

you can’t keep someone for days because of suspected drugs possession. that’s just not how it works.

and if i had been arrested because of a violent crime involving a weapon, they wouldn’t have let me go back home to the exact same living situation with the exact same person. they wouldn’t have ‘dropped the matter’ because my housemates ‘changed their mind’. are you seriously this dumb?

the funniest thing is that my ex-gf’s new boyfriend’s parents were both senior barristers, both very protective over their dah-ling boy, and both wanted to throw the book at me. pretty well the opposite of the scenario you propose (and which safely scotches the idea he could get in trouble for hanging around a party property with drugs in it). but they had literally nothing on me. about a week later i had a sharp knock at my bedroom door and opened it to find the father. i immediately asked him ‘what the hell do you think you’re doing?’ because it was pretty clear that he was trying to size me up or intimidate me somehow, which was of course extremely unprofessional. i was on bail at this point - just for a drugs offence that i knew i’d be let off for without hitch. so clearly in his frustration this guy thought he would come around to ‘give me a piece of his mind’. if those people wanted to press charges they could have at the very least had me cautioned or slapped with a restraining order. but Nada.

why do you think the girl is still texting me amiably, romantically even, 10 years later if i threatened to kill her with an “8 inch blade” and was stalking around a house, putting the fear of god into them? lol ffs.

makes my head hurt. you should read more detective fiction. you’re more inspector clouseau than sherlock holmes if i’m honest.

uziq wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I've looked it up and (tentatively, because I'm not intimately familiar in depth with details for being allowed to take up residency, though I didn't see past convictions listed?) South Korea is one country a convicted felon may travel to. For a hypothetical American, so long as they finish probation, have no outstanding warrants, and possess a valid passport.

It seems more telling that zeek wasn't ejected from college over "threats of violent crime," and is now living abroad doing remote work at his leisure at all, than whether or not SK let him in.

So this line of questioning and nudgery seems pretty obnoxious to me, but hey you do you.

i’m not american and we don’t have the same diplomatic relations with korea. very silly line of approach.

to get a working visa you have to submit a criminal background check. the embassy won’t even consider your application until you can provide a clean record and a clean bill of health.

the visas are competitive and limited in number each year. there is no way anyone could come out here from britain with a criminal record to find work. i doubt even a spent conviction would do.

this whole convo is literally ludicrous. only one person here has gone through this whole process and yet i’m being told why the police didn’t press charges against me 10 years and why i managed to graduate and move abroad. lmao ffs. you lot must be reallllllly bored.

I honestly don't really care about beyond making comment and spending five minutes casually looking stuff up (felons technically allowed, though saying nothing in my prior post about how it affects prioritization), because this convo is taking up multiple threads here for multiple days.

No issues here deferring to the testimony of the person who went on to finish college and is now living in a foreign country, because it makes more sense than people bending over backwards because you threw your teenage weight around ten years ago. I resent being lumped in with your "you lot," that's unfair.