what about dual graphics cards? I have heard it does not make a difference in BF2 as the game does not support dual....but what about this game? I have been looking for an excuse to buy another 7900gt!
see this linkluckeydogg wrote:
Anyone know what the specs for this game is? I know I can run it, but just curious to what the minimum requirements are???
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=40042
We'll see - remember the specs listed are minimum specs...majorassult wrote:
I am sorry scorpion but you got OWNED.
Scorpion - you have no facts at all to support your claims. The biggest thing you have going against you is that it is self admitted by the developers, that this game is essentially the same F**KING game. Graphics changes is all... 15 years programing experience I am not dough-ting you, but when the developers say something about THEIR game I tend to believe THEM over someone who has NO involvement with 2142 at ALL!
You keep going on about something that is completely different from what the developers of this game has to say about it. Thanks for your personal opinion, but we all have one of those! It is the same game with SKIN changes and more play-ability!
EVIL_STYX OUT!!!
You keep going on about something that is completely different from what the developers of this game has to say about it. Thanks for your personal opinion, but we all have one of those! It is the same game with SKIN changes and more play-ability!
EVIL_STYX OUT!!!
I tell you what, wait till the game is actually out and people are playing it, and then we'll see how many posts to forums like this we get of people saying "My system played BF2 and SF with such-and-such settings but with 2142 I have to turn my settings down!" or "My system handled BF2/SF on low, but 2142 is unplayable!" - If that doesn't happen, then come back and tell me "this game is essentially the same F**KING game".
Oh, and how poeple d'u know that play BF2 on a 1.7 Ghz CPU, 512 Mb RAM and a 9500/5800?
Oh, and how poeple d'u know that play BF2 on a 1.7 Ghz CPU, 512 Mb RAM and a 9500/5800?
The ram shouldn't be a big problem at all, but your video cards do cause an alarm. I can run everything highest in vBF2 and get 70 FPS in huge firefights, and get 40(Warlord)-50 in BF2SF with everything high in firefights, with a GeForce 7600GTOC. Really the only thing ram would affect is if you have other programs open and your loading time.
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Scorpion wrote:
Oh, and how poeple d'u know that play BF2 on a 1.7 Ghz CPU, 512 Mb RAM and a 9500/5800?
Actually about 3 people and they run it with less then that... mostly AMD processors and ATI cards. I know a total of 11 people in person that play and they don't run much over that. I personally have three comps hooked up to networking now and I have just resently upgraded two of those three. Before that I was still running the game on one of my comp's with 1 GHz Athlon CPU with 512 Mb RAM and a 9250 ATI... It was a E-Machines to boot, Thats my old rig, there again no facts to back up your claims dude. Give it up. My two new rigs are fire breathing dragons but the E-Machines is where I started to play BF2 in the first place, didnt do that bad at it either.
My question to YOU scorpion would be how in the hell are you going to argue with the developers game?? You keep saying the exact oppisite from what there saying. So it is you that needs to come back when the game comes out. Oh by the way it's in Beta testing now and I have not read a pep out of any one that says it runs any different! So until you get facts to back up your claims you need to back up a hair, and STFU!
I am not flaming you per say, Your just the only one that keeps going on about something with NO facts in your favor!
EVIL_STYX OUT!!!
Oh, and how poeple d'u know that play BF2 on a 1.7 Ghz CPU, 512 Mb RAM and a 9500/5800?
Actually about 3 people and they run it with less then that... mostly AMD processors and ATI cards. I know a total of 11 people in person that play and they don't run much over that. I personally have three comps hooked up to networking now and I have just resently upgraded two of those three. Before that I was still running the game on one of my comp's with 1 GHz Athlon CPU with 512 Mb RAM and a 9250 ATI... It was a E-Machines to boot, Thats my old rig, there again no facts to back up your claims dude. Give it up. My two new rigs are fire breathing dragons but the E-Machines is where I started to play BF2 in the first place, didnt do that bad at it either.
My question to YOU scorpion would be how in the hell are you going to argue with the developers game?? You keep saying the exact oppisite from what there saying. So it is you that needs to come back when the game comes out. Oh by the way it's in Beta testing now and I have not read a pep out of any one that says it runs any different! So until you get facts to back up your claims you need to back up a hair, and STFU!
I am not flaming you per say, Your just the only one that keeps going on about something with NO facts in your favor!
EVIL_STYX OUT!!!
Last edited by EVIL_STYX (2006-08-21 16:03:08)
Like I said, we'll see, when the actual full game is actually out and being played.
Actually, I'm not saying "the exact oppisite" from what the developers are saying - What I am saying is that I believe you have a subtly incorrect view of just exactly what it is the developers are saying.
I'm also not flaming you. 'Cos I don't you're way off the mark. Just, probably, not correct.
As I said before, my facts come from 15 years experience of these things - I do know what is involved in developing any game and I also know what is involved in implementing any one of the many new features and additions in 2142. And so I know that, for example, implementing the motion-sensing-seeking mines has involved more than just creating some skins. Where are the motion sensing mines in BF2 for them to re-skin? Answer: They don't exist - so, at the very least, these will need to have been scripted. And that's just one of the new features.
On the performance question - you may be right, I may be right. Again, my experience, and what I've seen of the game so far, tells me that on the same system, with the exact same settings (if indeed they're even comparable) I would expect to get lower frame-rates with 2142 than with bf2.
But anyway, this discussion is pointless - which was kinda my whole point form the start - no-one, except DICE, can say for sure how it will compare to bf2/sf (and all DICE are saying so far is "this is what hardware it will run on - nothing about actual performance) - we won't know that until the game is out - if you actually read, and comprehend, what I posted, you'll see that I make no definite predictions - only offer an opinion, based on my experience and what I've seen of the game - that opinion may be wrong, but I'll be surprised if it is.
You keep saying I should 'do some research' and 'watch the interviews' - quite apart from the fact that I have, maybe you, should go to college for 5years to get a degree in software engineering and then we'll discuss it some more - or you could stick to gambling machines - which I'm sure, from your experience, you know a hell of a lot more about than me, right? See - that's the way it is - if I started making definite statements about gambling machines, I'm sure you'd jump on me and tell me where I'm getting it wrong - and, personally, I would respect your greater experience in that matter - in this case we're talking about something that I have that degree of experience in.
Actually, I'm not saying "the exact oppisite" from what the developers are saying - What I am saying is that I believe you have a subtly incorrect view of just exactly what it is the developers are saying.
I'm also not flaming you. 'Cos I don't you're way off the mark. Just, probably, not correct.
As I said before, my facts come from 15 years experience of these things - I do know what is involved in developing any game and I also know what is involved in implementing any one of the many new features and additions in 2142. And so I know that, for example, implementing the motion-sensing-seeking mines has involved more than just creating some skins. Where are the motion sensing mines in BF2 for them to re-skin? Answer: They don't exist - so, at the very least, these will need to have been scripted. And that's just one of the new features.
On the performance question - you may be right, I may be right. Again, my experience, and what I've seen of the game so far, tells me that on the same system, with the exact same settings (if indeed they're even comparable) I would expect to get lower frame-rates with 2142 than with bf2.
But anyway, this discussion is pointless - which was kinda my whole point form the start - no-one, except DICE, can say for sure how it will compare to bf2/sf (and all DICE are saying so far is "this is what hardware it will run on - nothing about actual performance) - we won't know that until the game is out - if you actually read, and comprehend, what I posted, you'll see that I make no definite predictions - only offer an opinion, based on my experience and what I've seen of the game - that opinion may be wrong, but I'll be surprised if it is.
You keep saying I should 'do some research' and 'watch the interviews' - quite apart from the fact that I have, maybe you, should go to college for 5years to get a degree in software engineering and then we'll discuss it some more - or you could stick to gambling machines - which I'm sure, from your experience, you know a hell of a lot more about than me, right? See - that's the way it is - if I started making definite statements about gambling machines, I'm sure you'd jump on me and tell me where I'm getting it wrong - and, personally, I would respect your greater experience in that matter - in this case we're talking about something that I have that degree of experience in.
That is fine and I have not doubted your experience in the programing industry not once! In fact the reports of Beta testing are coming in now. Like I said before not a pep about performance being worlds apart from BF2. I would say that performance would without a doubt be the first thing the people in Beta testing would say about it. Your argument about the full game is ridiculous as well, if you think the actually game is going to be worlds apart from the beta, you are defiantly wrong about that.
On the "gambling machine's" have you seen the new slot machines? Yes, I "program" and "develop" Slot Machines on a daily basis. They are computers, nothing more, nothing less. My latest and greatest development is the new Novamatic machines that I am programing the OASIS SAS accounting systems on at the moment. Along with fine tuning bonus rounds and pay tables. So there your point is mute as well. I have not been doing it for 15 years, but I have been in the field for about 7 years. You see I take on new slot machine company's and fine tuning them for certain jurisdictions! After that the program sets are sent in for state inspection and then released to the gaming industry. That is not all, but one of many of my job duty's!
I'm right, Your right! We will see! I have been reading the reports about Beta Testing and Nata has been said about performance!
EVIL_STYX OUT!!!
On the "gambling machine's" have you seen the new slot machines? Yes, I "program" and "develop" Slot Machines on a daily basis. They are computers, nothing more, nothing less. My latest and greatest development is the new Novamatic machines that I am programing the OASIS SAS accounting systems on at the moment. Along with fine tuning bonus rounds and pay tables. So there your point is mute as well. I have not been doing it for 15 years, but I have been in the field for about 7 years. You see I take on new slot machine company's and fine tuning them for certain jurisdictions! After that the program sets are sent in for state inspection and then released to the gaming industry. That is not all, but one of many of my job duty's!
I'm right, Your right! We will see! I have been reading the reports about Beta Testing and Nata has been said about performance!
EVIL_STYX OUT!!!
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That was kinda my point - obviously I've seen some of the more modern gambling machines, but to me, to a certain extent, they're still just simple 'mechanical' devices, and there's not really that much difference between the latest electronic machines and the old skool truely mechanical machines. Which of course isn't the case.EVIL_STYX wrote:
On the "gambling machine's" have you seen the new slot machines? Yes, I "program" and "develop" Slot Machines on a daily basis. They are computers, nothing more, nothing less. My latest and greatest development is the new Novamatic machines that I am programing the OASIS SAS accounting systems on at the moment. Along with fine tuning bonus rounds and pay tables. So there your point is mute as well. I have not been doing it for 15 years, but I have been in the field for about 7 years. You see I take on new slot machine company's and fine tuning them for certain jurisdictions! After that the program sets are sent in for state inspection and then released to the gaming industry. That is not all, but one of many of my job duty's!
Just as, to some, games can seem to be similarly simple and that there's not really any difference between PacMan and BF2 - it's just better graphics and running around a much bigger 'maze' with guns instead of away/after ghosts, right? Which is also not the case.
I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one - we're both basing our opinions on valid information sources and either of us could be right, but we won't know for sure until we've got the game installed on our HDDs...
If you are right, I'll be one of the first to say "Good Job DICE!"...
And, I must admit, the reports (or rather the lack of reports about poor performance) I've seen about the beta do add weight to you arguments...
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Jesus Christ
BRAIN
This thread posted: 2006-08-14 01:53:46
That thread posted: 2006-08-18 20:32:46
Find it difficult to so?
Dont post then.
i got a 5500 and i can play battlefield2 fine can i be able to play 2142?
Good job scorpion - zimmer92 you just GOT OWNED BAD my friend!
Landcaster - that would be what scorpion and I where debating in this thread, at this point there are no reports about performance change's in 2142. Scorpion and I have agreed to wait and see how it goes on that end.
Scorpion - I just wanted to add ( I am not arguing ) That the new video slot machines are exactly what a personally home computer is right down to the P/S... Just wanted to say that. Yes the new REEL games are just a step up from the old days, but the NEW video games are nothing less then a PC!
EDIT: they run P4 CPU's for a example!
Landcaster - that would be what scorpion and I where debating in this thread, at this point there are no reports about performance change's in 2142. Scorpion and I have agreed to wait and see how it goes on that end.
Scorpion - I just wanted to add ( I am not arguing ) That the new video slot machines are exactly what a personally home computer is right down to the P/S... Just wanted to say that. Yes the new REEL games are just a step up from the old days, but the NEW video games are nothing less then a PC!
EDIT: they run P4 CPU's for a example!
Last edited by EVIL_STYX (2006-08-22 18:55:20)
I know I did
Was not denying anything my dear friend
Yup, I didnt care to notice that small detail.
Was not denying anything my dear friend
Yup, I didnt care to notice that small detail.
Probably. BF2142 is harder on your GPU for sure (I can't run 1600x1200 like I could in BF2, but then again it is a somewhat unoptomized beta still). If your video card is struggling at all min specs though in BF2, then no.landcaster wrote:
i got a 5500 and i can play battlefield2 fine can i be able to play 2142?
does any of you run Win2000 ? BF2 and all mods and ex packs run fine with Win2000 ( although it hadn't been tested on it ), but when I look at the specs for 2142, it still says that only Win XP is suported.
But since it is essentially the same engine/source code, I figure I might be able to run it on my Win2000 rig.
I really don't want to buy Win XP now, with Vista coming out this year ( supposedly ).
Opinions ?
But since it is essentially the same engine/source code, I figure I might be able to run it on my Win2000 rig.
I really don't want to buy Win XP now, with Vista coming out this year ( supposedly ).
Opinions ?
I'd bet $10 that you can.
cheers, mate. it looks like I'll be getting a beta key real soon, so I will find out
the only problem is the EA downloader, which will only work under XP. stupid EA. what the hell is that supposed to mean ?
I had to perform some trickery to get the two ex packs for BF2 onto my Win2000 rig, and I do hope the same will be possible for 2142. Did you get your beta via the downloader or from someplace else ?
the only problem is the EA downloader, which will only work under XP. stupid EA. what the hell is that supposed to mean ?
I had to perform some trickery to get the two ex packs for BF2 onto my Win2000 rig, and I do hope the same will be possible for 2142. Did you get your beta via the downloader or from someplace else ?
FilePlanet as that's where you enter your key, etc.
If I was a betting man....I would side with Scorpion on this one......I would be surpised if 2142 wasn't a least a tad harder on the system. Of course DICE/EA wants everyone to believe they can run the game on their existing system so they run out and buy it.....then they don't really care if they need to buy more ram etc. because they are so excited to play the game. Easier than telling people out of the gate that they are going to have to upgrade their software to run it......Scorpion0x17 wrote:
That was kinda my point - obviously I've seen some of the more modern gambling machines, but to me, to a certain extent, they're still just simple 'mechanical' devices, and there's not really that much difference between the latest electronic machines and the old skool truely mechanical machines. Which of course isn't the case.EVIL_STYX wrote:
On the "gambling machine's" have you seen the new slot machines? Yes, I "program" and "develop" Slot Machines on a daily basis. They are computers, nothing more, nothing less. My latest and greatest development is the new Novamatic machines that I am programing the OASIS SAS accounting systems on at the moment. Along with fine tuning bonus rounds and pay tables. So there your point is mute as well. I have not been doing it for 15 years, but I have been in the field for about 7 years. You see I take on new slot machine company's and fine tuning them for certain jurisdictions! After that the program sets are sent in for state inspection and then released to the gaming industry. That is not all, but one of many of my job duty's!
Just as, to some, games can seem to be similarly simple and that there's not really any difference between PacMan and BF2 - it's just better graphics and running around a much bigger 'maze' with guns instead of away/after ghosts, right? Which is also not the case.
I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one - we're both basing our opinions on valid information sources and either of us could be right, but we won't know for sure until we've got the game installed on our HDDs...
If you are right, I'll be one of the first to say "Good Job DICE!"...
And, I must admit, the reports (or rather the lack of reports about poor performance) I've seen about the beta do add weight to you arguments...
Personally - I would be a bit disapointed if it were not harder to run.....I don't mind upgrading here and there to see kick butt graphics etc.....
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Last edited by Tunacommy (2006-08-23 10:23:29)
So far the Beta has a lack of reports on performance changes. That would be the first thing the Beta testers on this forum would have mentioned was performance changes. Without any doubt at all they would have stated that by now...
On a side note Scorpion and I have agreed to see how it goes...
On a side note Scorpion and I have agreed to see how it goes...
^ hope you are right.
Glad you guys agreed to see how it goes.....
Glad you guys agreed to see how it goes.....
Just the lack of reports on performance issues is a pretty good sign that there is not a huge difference between the two, but like I say we will see how it goes...
Last edited by EVIL_STYX (2006-08-23 12:00:11)
Well, that's the first performance related beta report.Viper007Bond wrote:
Probably. BF2142 is harder on your GPU for sure (I can't run 1600x1200 like I could in BF2, but then again it is a somewhat unoptomized beta still). If your video card is struggling at all min specs though in BF2, then no.landcaster wrote:
i got a 5500 and i can play battlefield2 fine can i be able to play 2142?
What are you running it at Viper? 1280?