BF2S Forums Is a life relegated to end in prison worth maintaining?

to me, life sentence is better for three reasons :

1. as Kuntpunch said, it costs more money to execute someone than to keep him in jail for the rest of his life
2. the majority of criminals prefer to die than to stay in prison for the rest of their life. so lets give them the worst of the 2, so they can get punished for what they did. In France, a group of murderers made a petition in order to get the death sentence back, because they couldnt tolerate staying in jail.
3. as someone said above, its possible to release innocents if its been proven they are. Not as easy with a dead person...

Last edited by -=raska=- (2006-07-19 22:01:21)

send them all to Auswitch, they know how to take care of people they hate

dhoar4 wrote:

-=raska=- wrote:

send them all to Auswitch, they know how to take care of people they hate

Auswitch (sp.) is in Poland.  Poland never did anything like that...It was the Germans

yeah sry I meant the bad guys that were there during WWII

dont worry I know there are no longer Germans waiting for Jewish people there...

Maybe only give them one or two appeals. 

Why not put prisoners in uber small rooms with a hook on the wall and give them all ropes.  Those who want to die can and those who don't, won't use the rope.

I just don't want to left with his tab while he is rotting in jail.  As I will soon be a tax paying citizen, I feel that the death penalty alleviates not only the taxes but also it allows more space in jails for other prisoners with not so terrible crimes.  Don't get me wrong, it is still a touchy subject about taking the life of another human, but this is just my opinion.

Life IS still life.They should be staring at four walls,a toilet,and a bed for 23 hrs. a day for as long as they're there.No television.No Rec. centers so they can get super beefy and ready for more antics when/if they are released.No pin-ups of their favorite fellow inmates,NOTHING.The less they have access too,the less we as hard working,law abiding(for the most part),tax paying citizens have to pay for.Why should we have to pay so they can sit around and not contribute to society while eating smores and talking about they're favorite crimes w/ Bubba and Twink from cell block 7.


Or the guvment could step in and draft fit criminals for front line battles.Then if they get 400 hrs. in a tank and 20 kills on foot,they could get a Get Out of Jail Ribbon.lol.

Actually,convicted criminals on the battlefield might not be such a good idea.First they would be representing a country that is forcing them to fight.And second,they might  teamkill each other before they even see action.So i take that back.

Last edited by BrOk_MoRdU (2006-07-19 22:39:49)

Yeah, I agree with you Mordu, on life being a life.  I don't know, my opinions are still forming at this age but as I see it, we will never get something like that so why not push the extreme of the death penalty.  I figure if you push the death penalty maybe we can end up at what you are talking about.

Right now in Indiana we have prisoners suing the state because state congress ruled that prisoners can not have their magazines while in prison.  They are saying prison is a place of punishment and not of enjoyment.  So the prisoners are suing to get their playboy back.  How pathetic is that?

i honestly dont think the death penalty should even exist, or that it should be a choice of the man being given a sentence...
think about it, is it like they really NEED to die....its not like they'll do more harm to the community if they're getting the life sentence....
i mean, with the death sentence, why is it so stressed that they need to die...

state sanctioned murder is wrong. How can the state say "dont kill" but they kill themselves?

The punishment should fit the crime and be a deterrence to committing the crime.

If someone is thinking of committing a murder, then the punishment should be enough for them to think "this ain't worth dieing for." But if they know they have a good chance to beat the system and they are only going to jail and can get out, it is not a deterrence. We are primal beings. We like to think of ourselves as civilized. But when it comes down to it, our actions are primitive and civilization is just a thin layer. Criminals prey upon those they can take advantage of and see as weaker. They don't use reason, have compassion, or think of their or the victims dignity. These criminals are not civilized and have forfeited their right to remain in civilization.

-=raska=- wrote:

to me, life sentence is better for three reasons :

1. as Kuntpunch said, it costs more money to execute someone than to keep him in jail for the rest of his life

Really?  A rope only costs a few bucks, and it is even reusable.  A bullet only costs a few cents.  I do not understand the current fetish with 'cruel and unusual punishment' applying to people being executed.

-=raska=- wrote:

2. the majority of criminals prefer to die than to stay in prison for the rest of their life. so lets give them the worst of the 2, so they can get punished for what they did. In France, a group of murderers made a petition in order to get the death sentence back, because they couldnt tolerate staying in jail.

Really?  I would grant their request.  be less of a burden to our society if they were serving as fertilizer.  I have absolutley ZERO sympathy or compassion.

-=raska=- wrote:

3. as someone said above, its possible to release innocents if its been proven they are. Not as easy with a dead person...

Okay, this is actually a valid argument.  Obviously, there has to be every attempt to make sure the scum we are putting on the express route to hell really deserve to be there.  Everyone sentenced to death automatically get an appeal to check for just that sort of thing.  And, with modern science and modern views, there is less of a chance of convicting an innocent person.  I did not say NO chance, just that it is less.  I can live with that.  Just make sure the guy is really guilty before you stretch his neck.

I still think it's wrong.

lol, when I see (on TV actually, but I'll assume it's accurate) the prisons in USA I feel sorry for the prisoners, prisons here are more like hotels, they have big rooms with a comfy bed and even TVs.

Instead of punishing people by making them life in crap, we try to rehabiliate them.

Oh, and I believe the utter heaviest sentance you can get here is 17 years in prison, which I think sucks, some people deserve life sentance.

Alexanderthegrape wrote:

We take everyone on death row in America ( proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt with DNA where possible ) and give them a number. Once a week we draw a number. That person gets it a sunrise.

I think I read that book.  Wasn't it the Lottery?  ;-)

Again, I am not arguing for our present implementation of the death sentence.  Nor am I disputing the fiscal facts which are a direct result of that present system.  I am speaking of the principle behind each approach.