oug wrote:
USAFDude_1988 wrote:
oug wrote:
Its funny how the americans think they made Europe a favor in WWII. Know that it was your involvement in this war that made you the dominant power in the world today, and that if you had stayed out of it Hitler would've kicked your asses as well. So enough with all that bitching about how you saved us and how good people you are and how grateful we should be.
Its time to realize that you are today what Germany was back in '39. So do your thing, and the rest of us will do our thing. At least the Germans weren't looking for sympathy while trying to conquer the world.
Well Hitler never managed to kick the UK's ass. A country that was only 25 miles away from German-occupied France... so how could Hitler even manage to pull off an assault across thousands of miles of Atlantic water?!
Germany in 1939:
- Annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia.
- Invaded Poland.
So if the United States is what you say it is.. we should have annexed Mexico by now and around the first of September we're gonna start an invasion of Canada?
Let's also not forget the fact that us Americans take our freedoms seriously. I'm insulted that you relate our government to the horrific nightmare that was the Third Reich. President Bush might not accept homosexuality.. but he respects human life enough that he's not systematically killing them off at prison camps across the country. If this government was anything like the Third Reich, people like Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan would've lost their lives years ago.
Why don't you go down to the suburb of Glyfada in Athens and take a look? It's obvious your feelings of anti-Americanism isn't shared by your fellow citizens. Every time I'm down there I see that T.G.I. Friday's and Applebee's - both American restaurants - are completely packed. I suggest that you eat at one of them.. they both have good food!
It is generally difficult to say what would have happened in WWII, because the timing of the Germans' fall was critical in many ways. For example, at that point the missile technology was being perfected by the Nazis. If they had a little more time, it is said they could have changed the face of warfare as it was known back then. But that is besides the point.
Do not forget that you have helped dictatorships into power all over south America, and thus the US controls the whole area with the exception of Castro's Cuba and Chavez's Venezuela. Generally you must realize that times have changed and that the USA will not invade Mexico and Canada the way Germany invaded Poland. So long as Mexico and Canada do as they are told by the US, that's the way its going to be. Invasion is not the only means of control now days. There's far more "civilized" and subtle ways which it seems, you choose not to see.
As far as concentration camps go, the most famous is Guantanamo, but there are others in small tropical islands as well.
You spoke of freedom... Well I'm not sure how free you people are lately. In my humble opinion the average American was never "more" free than the average European for example, although you Americans tend to think so (on what grounds I don't know). Lately though, fear has guided you people into voting several legislations whose goal is none other than to limit your freedom, based on the excuse that there are terrorists out there who mean to kill you.
And what is it with you people talking about freedom and somehow linking it to fags? Homosexuals and their rights have absolutely NOTHING to do with this conversation. I couldn't care less about them, cause after all they are just people with an illness so that makes them no different in the eyes of the law or the state.
And as far as Michael Moore goes, I gathered from his films that he is a democrat and that his efforts aim at bringing his favorite party into power once again. In short, there are other voices who are being muted by your government because they speak of far worse truths than Moore (take Chomsky for example). And again, times have changed. Killing Moore or Cindy Sheehan (I don't know her) would only prove them right and make them martyrs of their cause. There are better ways of silencing people, like spreading rumors and destroying their credibility, making them look like the nutcase of the village.
Finally, know that I am not attacking the American people or the culture. After all I like burgers and I listen to 99% American and British music. You could say I am American bred. Americans are great people. I have been to the USA twice and I can say that they are the less malevolent people I have ever seen. But this innate desire to do good is being used by your government against the American people. Proof? Two preemptive wars and still you can't see the connection.
BTW applebee's and TGI Fridays are great but a bit expensive here in Greece. If you come over I can suggest a few burger joints that kick ass
Wow...where do I begin?
1) Which dictatorships did the US install in South America? The US has installed governments in the world before and recently, however the preference are democracies and they haven't been in South America.
2) Canada, Mexico, etc, do not always do the US bidding. If Mexico was controlled by the US, we wouldn't have immigration issues which they disagree on.
3) Guantanamo Bay is hardly a concentration camp. Are there abuses and probably tough (perhaps even slight torture) their in interrogations? Perhaps. Are there systematic killing, work-to-death conditions, and torture compared to the Nazis? Hardly.
4) Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan ARE nutcases. If you ever did any unbiased research on them, you'd know they're loons. Their credibility should be shot.
5) Two pre-emptive wars? What's the other one besides Iraq? All others were in defense of the US, its allies, or by the UN.
Oug, I've read most of your posts, and I can clearly state you have no clue about the US, world affairs, history, or life in general.
Last edited by Pinto (2006-07-16 15:33:08)