BF2S Forums The Big Question in TV Right Now (sorta)

Macs are designed for designing things and watching media, they arent designed to cope with games or design games/computer models.

lol,

PC - 10
Macs - 0

those vids are wierd... but pc is so much better than the mac, see all programs the mac has, they have it on the pc!

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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

those vids are wierd... but pc is so much better than the mac, see all programs the mac has, they have it on the pc!

Alright...let me do this for the umpteenth time...

It's really a matter of personal opinion.  PCs do some things better than a Mac, and Macs do a lot of things better than a PC.

1.  PCs have games.  PCs have Lots of Games, and thus are quite important in the realm of the computer gamer.  If you want to base your decision that "Macs Suck!" because they don't have as many popular games, or as many games that have inspired such communities as this one (and therefore have never used Macs enough to make an informed opinion) then you are just lost.

Macs actually carry the TOP SELLING games such as the Sims, Civilization, and a lot of the other games that FPS players tend to not play.  After the failure of Pippin, Apple decided to keep the Mac a Production machine, and therefore they aren't too friendly towards games in the first place  (One Apple official, though I don't think it was Jobs himself, was quoted as saying "We are building computer tools, not toys.")

2.  Do you do graphics/compositing/motion graphics/design/print design/editing/cinematography/music/audio editing and production/*NIX scripting/multimedia/web design/use photoshop for more things other than making sigs?  No?  Well, the Mac is specifically designed to multi-task and greatly aid the artist with those actions.  The Final Cut Studio along with Shake or compositing programs such as combustion are fully integrated into the Mac OS and hardware, making it a lot easier for artists to create artwork rather than worrying about compatibility with a plethora of 3rd party hardware or drivers.

Consider that a lot of the movies, TV shows, and commercials you guys enjoy are made with Macs in the production pipeline (Sin City, X-Men series, Hellboy, Citroën dancing robot car, too many more to list right now)

3.  Windows has a huge market share, but also runs on extremely customizable machines.  If you figure yourself to be a tech-head, [H]ardOCP user, then Macs aren't for you.  Macs are built to be production machines...set one up, load your software, and off you go with an extremely minute amount of hardware/software tweaking.  If you want to get your hands dirty with overclocking, hardware modifications, case mods, etc, albeit you CAN do that with a Mac, they aren't machines built on the expectation that users will actually want to do that.

4.  Interoperability.  Macs absolutely trounce Windows when it comes to network interoperability.  A Mac can read any file from Windows, short of .dlls and windows .exes.  Plug a windows box into the Network, and a Mac will instantly recognize it and set up file sharing protocols to match it. 

5.  OS selection comes down to personal preference, but there is nothing stopping you from completely customizing your Mac OS experience.  Once you get into UNIX, OS X becomes just all the more powerful. 

I can add much more to this, but I need to get back to work.  If you are wondering, I am an Apple Developer, and I use both Macs and PCs (including an Intel Mac running Windows XP, which I installed) on an equal basis.  Developing for both platforms, I can safely say that even though both companies have their own forms of hostility towards developers, the Mac is a much easier platform to develop for.

Its hard to compare Macs and PCs because when you take away gaming what does it come down to?  Compatability- Macs can run all PC programs and then the programs designed for the Mac itself. 

Lets say you're just some joe-shmo trying to buy a comp... I'd tell you to buy a Mac.  Why?  Because they're simple, you can watch videos, you can edit videos, you can surf the web, and you can't break the damn thing...

if you're looking to buy a gaming computer for junior (or perhaps pwn some n00bs yourself) I'd tell you to buy a badass PC.

You cannot compare these two things.

While I'd never own a Mac, let me point out that you're asking on a PC-only game releated forum, so the results are going to be heavily skewed...

Well the OS's on Macs are pretty good... its just that before macs were the best for video editing and image things but PCs now are better than macs in that. The good things about PC's is that as marc said u can OC it, mod it and volt mod it.

But windows Vista is to be said better than the OSX series.

who voted other?

I think Marconious put it best, great post. But as a mac person I have to type something...
I use a mac and a PC everyday, mac at home and work to make money and get work done. PC to play games. My PC: 2.61GHz AMD 64 FX-55, 2g of ram, 7800 video...mac is only a 1GHz (G4), 256 video, 2G of ram.
The mac still rips large print files just as fast as the PC (not talking about little baby web images in RGB at 72ppi, I mean the REAL files, large format 315MB+ CMYK files with hundreds of layers,masks, plenty of channels... all the fun stuff), handles fonts much better (still use postscript in the design world) shows my color much better, and lets me get done faster than my PC. I started on PCs and can not see how anyone can "work" off them in PRINT design. If I run Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, any web browser and email software, as well as suitcase, my PC -as strong as it is- crashes or drags along. The same programs running in OSX on my mac, no problem at all.
Ironicly, if I am only using dreamweaver or flash, I actually like my PC better... but I still create all my images on my mac then bring them over. And I am primaraly a print designer, don't do web work often.
I only play with video (on the mac) so I can't comment on that with any real info.
I'm a designer, I don't know computers or care to learn. Its not what I went to school for. I just want to create my artwork and cash my check, so I use a mac. When I want to play games you have to use a PC, the mac has "some" great games, but you have to wait till they get ported (year or two later) but once out they look great! And rarely (in my opinion) do they crash or cause problems. But especially if you want to play online, PC wins. But in order to enjoy all the fun, bills have to be paid and nothing does that better than my mac.
Oh... how do you turn off a Windows PC?... you click on the START button...?

Windows Vista is "said" to be better... Then when can we see it? I bet it looks a lot like OSX. Redmond start your photocopiers...

Last edited by pndragon26 (2006-06-30 12:01:34)

I find it funny how Mac users are almost religious in their fervour, often spontaneously discussing the virtues of their machines.  Almost everyone I know has a PC and we never talk about how much we love our rigs - we just use them.

Finally, there is no argument that, due to their tiny market share and, as such, lack of volume discount, Macs are expensive and Mac parts are expensive.  I bet you could prove that Mac users have a higher per capita income than PC users just because of this.