The taking of any human life shouldn't be celebrated PERIOD, insurgent or Marine.Ikarti wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13432770/
Looks like they're dead...nothing about a beheading though. I'm disappointed.
Guess there's no reason for this topic anymore.
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Yeah they would conscript...and there's no way I'd go over for those bullshit reasons. However, the reason for the celebration is to show these morons here what it's like. Zarqawi was a bad man, but Happy Death of Zarqawi day? Besides, who's to say these troops weren't bad people?JahManRed wrote:
The taking of any human life shouldn't be celebrated PERIOD, insurgent or Marine.Ikarti wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13432770/
Looks like they're dead...nothing about a beheading though. I'm disappointed.
Guess there's no reason for this topic anymore.
But if solders didn't sign up, ppl like you would be conscripted. I think your government would conscript to further its polices over seas. Think about that the next time to champion the taking of human life.
Personally I think the solders shouldn't be there in the first place and the USA administration is indirectly to blame for these guys lives being taken.
You know when you've been playing Battlefield 2 too much when you start describing real life Arab groups as being the MECAlexanderthegrape wrote:
My advice to the MEC insurgents holding our soldiers.....
From the link, those soldiers looked very young...Ikarti wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13432770/
Looks like they're dead...nothing about a beheading though. I'm disappointed.
Guess there's no reason for this topic anymore.
Then we are no different than Saddam Hussein.2ndLt.Tucker wrote:
...It may sound horrible but striking fear into the civilians...
Yeah i'm pretty satisfied. And I have said it to a marine before. They're pussies.Alexanderthegrape wrote:
I hope a rock from space falls from the sky and crushes your house.Ikarti wrote:
I hope these guys get beheaded on tape. Serves those fucks right.
You are a disgrace to the human race.
I dare you to say that to a marine.
You fucking puke guzzling fuck wad they were tortured and killed ARE YOU HAPPY MAGGOT?
It should be your fate not theirs.
oh don't even try that. I know your panties are in a bunch over what I said. Let's hear some more colorful insults as opposed to this lame "LOL RN'T U MISSING SKOOL" crap. Preschoolers can't type, dumbass.Alexanderthegrape wrote:
Aren't you missing your preschool class, little man?
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Listen, i've said this to them before. They're pussies when they don't have guns. They can somehow control that great joy of killing when they're not protected from responsiblity by the military. They're making no sacrifice for me living in a democracy. They are killing people who threaten me in no way, especially those people who are children and unarmed. Anything I say here I will gladly say elsewhere.ExecutionerStyle wrote:
Ikarti what the fuck is your problem. I bet if you went into Quantico and told the Marines there that you hope they died, they'd either:
-Kick your ass to a bloody pulp
or
-Ignore you like the little cum-dumpster you are
I don't see you going over to make the ultimate sacrifice to let people live in a democracy. No, you're sitting at your computer trying to start fights over the internet like a faceless coward. The shit you say here would get your ass destroyed in a bar... you've probably never been to a bar given your fear of the outside world and inability to be 'tough' outside of a virtual world.
"I hope these guys get beheaded on tape. Serves those fucks right."
fine with meAlexanderthegrape wrote:
I only wish chuy saw some of the tripe you spew."I hope these guys get beheaded on tape. Serves those fucks right."
That's easy for you to say since you think the American army and the U.S. as a whole is the be all end all of the world. Really hard for you to blame your own people isn't it.G3|Genius wrote:
It works well, because the population as a whole would be much more intolerant of insurgency. When my wife and child are on the line because one jackass decided to take pot shots at americans, I'd be mad at the guy who did that, not the americans.
Good idea!
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+1, except maybe for the last part of the last sentence.Havazn wrote:
That's easy for you to say since you think the American army and the U.S. as a whole is the be all end all of the world. Really hard for you to blame your own people isn't it.G3|Genius wrote:
It works well, because the population as a whole would be much more intolerant of insurgency. When my wife and child are on the line because one jackass decided to take pot shots at americans, I'd be mad at the guy who did that, not the americans.
Good idea!
If the U.S. was ever invaded by a hostile army, you cannot honestly tell me that you would turn in someone who is fighting to get them out. I sure as hell wouldn't if my country was invaded.
Start looking outside your God complex for a moment. The US went into Iraq, it is THEIR fault when their bombs are killing Iraqi's, civilian or otherwise. They pulled the trigger despite whatever 'reasons' they think justifies it.
You are just as bad as some nut job holding a gun to his wife's head saying "I don't want to hurt you, but you MADE me resort to this because you wouldn't do my laundry"
Dont give me that hypocratic bs.
Ever think that some people dont want Democracy? Who ever asked them? Who says its the best way to run a country anyways? You can't tell me you know, because your country isn't that democratic to begin with.
I don't believe you.Ikarti wrote:
Listen, i've said this to them before. They're pussies when they don't have guns. They can somehow control that great joy of killing when they're not protected from responsiblity by the military. They're making no sacrifice for me living in a democracy. They are killing people who threaten me in no way, especially those people who are children and unarmed. Anything I say here I will gladly say elsewhere.
Comparing Iraq with any other conflict, except for perhaps Somalia in some urban fighting, quasai insurgent kinda way, is simply pointless. The actions of our troops, our strategy and commitment are completely different.B.Schuss wrote:
Comparing methods in WWII with those applied in the conflict in Iraq today doesn't make much sense to me.
Two very different conflicts on very different levels.
After germany had surrendered, and the military part of the conflict was over, there was practically no insurgency.
In Iraq, the real conflict just started after the regular Iraqi troops had been defeated.
Post combat resistance groups did not make much of a problem because the citizens did not tolerate them for long. I read of one episode where a dedicated SS, Hitler youth was shooting at a group of Americans manning a check point. Because the people understood that allowing the trouble makers to take pot shots at the soldiers only prolonged the occupation, the elders got him and delivered him ( by the ear I hope ) to the Americans.-F8-Scotch wrote:
Are you so sure about the post-combat Germany? If my memory serves correctly weren't there groups of dedicated SS, Hitler youth,...etc., that were formed into small "cell" type resistance groups? I can't come up with the German name, I believe it mean't Werewolves or something similar.
Hearing that these soldiers were found dead is certainly disheartening. Obviously it wasn't too much of a shock due to the history of AQII and thier vicious attitude towards the coalition, Iraqis, American contractors. My prayers go to the families of these servicemen and thier ultimate loss.
Scotch
although founded with the intention to fight a guerilla war against the occupation, the Werwolf organization in the end was a joke and didn't have much success. You may read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf-F8-Scotch wrote:
Comparing Iraq with any other conflict, except for perhaps Somalia in some urban fighting, quasai insurgent kinda way, is simply pointless. The actions of our troops, our strategy and commitment are completely different.B.Schuss wrote:
Comparing methods in WWII with those applied in the conflict in Iraq today doesn't make much sense to me.
Two very different conflicts on very different levels.
After germany had surrendered, and the military part of the conflict was over, there was practically no insurgency.
In Iraq, the real conflict just started after the regular Iraqi troops had been defeated.
Are you so sure about the post-combat Germany? If my memory serves correctly weren't there groups of dedicated SS, Hitler youth,...etc., that were formed into small "cell" type resistance groups? I can't come up with the German name, I believe it mean't Werewolves or something similar.
Hearing that these soldiers were found dead is certainly disheartening. Obviously it wasn't too much of a shock due to the history of AQII and thier vicious attitude towards the coalition, Iraqis, American contractors. My prayers go to the families of these servicemen and thier ultimate loss.
Scotch
The insurgents are fighting for more than the people of iraq. They are fighting for an idea. The idea greatly exceeds any civilian in their minds. They will turn their guns to their own people in order to keep fighting. Do not expect the civilians to fight for you, especially when the insurgents are fighting for their own country. The civilians have more in common with them then they have with the americans.Alexanderthegrape wrote:
The insurgency in Iraq will continue for as long as the citizens tollerate them. When they see men planting a roadside bomb they should shoot them or turn them in, or at the least discreetly inform the authorities.
All they have to do is restrain the problem themselves and the Amerians will go away.
We absorbed 250 American combat deaths per week for every week we were in Vietnam, it is absurd to think that the occasional roadside bomb will do anything to drive us out.