well thats a good conclusion=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
100% correct, sir but let me add that it is also an insult to human life and the World we live in because religion dictates that God "made" us and the Earth which insults the reality that we are sooo privaliged to be alive in this World (consider all the events that had to happen)....
you mean galaxy. earth is a pretty rock in the solar system.PBAsydney wrote:
Christianity has stomped into "our" heads that we are the best, Humans are the greatest race and the Earth is center of the universe.
Not true
Humans are the race that is going to destroy the earth one day, and the one that brings the most unbalance to nature, nature would go on unharmed if humans suddently got extinct
And the Earth is just a tiny piece of dust in the large solar system.
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i killed them all.Spark wrote:
So... where are JaMDuDe and his band of ignoramuses to 'counter' this statement?
No he means universe, since, as you are undoubtably aware, there are other galaxies than the Milky Way out there. But you are right about it being the prettiest pebble in our solar system. Too bad we have such a dull moon. Probably the most depressing place to live this side of the Milky Way's center.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
you mean galaxy. earth is a pretty rock in the solar system.PBAsydney wrote:
And the Earth is just a tiny piece of dust in the large solar system.
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If you draw it to SCALE, then a 'piece of dust' in the SOLAR SYSTEM becomes a big overstatement. 'Molecule' is more accurate. Or 'Amoeba' - that holds true to the spirit of complexity.Rosse_modest wrote:
No he means universe, since, as you are undoubtably aware, there are other galaxies than the Milky Way out there. But you are right about it being the prettiest pebble in our solar system. Too bad we have such a dull moon. Probably the most depressing place to live this side of the Milky Way's center.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
you mean galaxy. earth is a pretty rock in the solar system.PBAsydney wrote:
And the Earth is just a tiny piece of dust in the large solar system.
what he said.Spark wrote:
If you draw it to SCALE, then a 'piece of dust' in the SOLAR SYSTEM becomes a big overstatement. 'Molecule' is more accurate. Or 'Amoeba' - that holds true to the spirit of complexity.Rosse_modest wrote:
No he means universe, since, as you are undoubtably aware, there are other galaxies than the Milky Way out there. But you are right about it being the prettiest pebble in our solar system. Too bad we have such a dull moon. Probably the most depressing place to live this side of the Milky Way's center.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
you mean galaxy. earth is a pretty rock in the solar system.
No it is not an insult (nor eloquent, nor intelligent in conception) - it is the human counterpart (& naturally occurring structures found in man) that creates the indignity.RicardoBlanco wrote:
“Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.”
-Stephen Weinberg.
Eloquent and true. Discuss?
No if u take a picture it looks more like a speck of dustspark wrote:
If you draw it to SCALE, then a 'piece of dust' in the SOLAR SYSTEM becomes a big overstatement.
Without religion people would still know what is right and wrong (unless they were amoral). If a man committed an evil acts he would be called evil, and rightly so. Why then is it only under the pretext of religion that a good man can commit an evil act?topal63 wrote:
No it is not an insult (nor eloquent, nor intelligent in conception) - it is the human counterpart (& naturally occurring structures found in man) that creates the indignity.RicardoBlanco wrote:
“Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.”
-Stephen Weinberg.
Eloquent and true. Discuss?
And more aptly it requires childlike acceptance of an ideology (any, non-religious as well) and the natural tendency (or learned tendency) for aggression & violence.
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?topal63 wrote:
Religion is responsible for the very fabric of society you enjoy today. . . it is probable that such structure is found in our mind and found in our genes even. War as well has helped produce many of the things found in society. Conflict & struggle has been responsible for much of the increase in man (that is - if you "believe" in the concept of progress).
The simplistic idea that belief in something unprovable or intangable; something transcendent - is not an insult - nor is it ugly. What is ugly is the most encouraged form of belief: blind faith in base immorality posing as morality in the name of God. To lump all forms into one bucket and mix (Buddhism, Hinduism, Sik, Gnostic Christian, etc.); and then denounce the whole of it is actually quite stupid.
just you wait until the only two religions left are buddhism and scientology,then the great war of 6704 A.D. will be the end of humanity.Xenu would be proud.topal63 wrote:
Well, this ignorant-man (me) has a fondness for all things mythical and those ideas that represent the symbolic and the transcendent.
There are humans that exist that are an insult to humanity (subjectively determined of course). . . and there are ideas that encourage them to exist in such a way. I see no proof that religion as a whole is an insult, but rather the opposite, the structure of being susceptible to mere suggestion (and not testing a “belief”) is a structure of mind. It is expression of the genome; the human design (designed by nature). Maybe your actually saying nature is an insult to humanity? To suggest that Stalin’s political-ideological belief system (that killed 20-40 million of his own countrymen) is on par with Buddhism (or that Buddhism is an insult) is FUCKING ABSURD. Because the distinction (of form) is obviously not drawn correctly.
Technically not, technically dark matter keeps the galaxy spinning, without it it would just fly away like using a blender without the lid on. And also technically, the stars aren't getting pulled together, the space between them is expanding so they are in fact growing further apart.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
what he said.Spark wrote:
If you draw it to SCALE, then a 'piece of dust' in the SOLAR SYSTEM becomes a big overstatement. 'Molecule' is more accurate. Or 'Amoeba' - that holds true to the spirit of complexity.Rosse_modest wrote:
No he means universe, since, as you are undoubtably aware, there are other galaxies than the Milky Way out there. But you are right about it being the prettiest pebble in our solar system. Too bad we have such a dull moon. Probably the most depressing place to live this side of the Milky Way's center.
earth is not a piece of dust in the solar system... pretty big rock, but in the galaxy its a piece of dust. and yes i do know there are other galaxies besides the milky way, u know what pulls all the stars in the milky way together? SAG A black hole
