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I believe Gorbachev won the cold war.

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

I believe Gorbachev won the cold war.

well the cold war was never won since the soviet union collapsed

JG1567JG wrote:

2. As long as the bully isn't named Bob then ya somebody has to lead

Funny thing, though.  He has insured that the leader he wants is chosen through tagetting non-combatants.  He is, therefore a terrorist.

Also, to argue this, you must argue that might makes right, which is a theory anathema to democracy.

JG1567JG wrote:

3. I don't know but I am sure that many many many people way smarter than you and I did oversee them and not just from the U.S.

I am unaware of international involvement in elections, but the US did appoint them all.

Y0URDAD wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

104 acres...jeeeezzzzzeee.  Looks like Iraq is a new state of the USA. Its further proof of the real intention in Iraq. Free the people from the dictator and then with draw? The US will never with draw. Not until every drop of oil is sucked outa the region. Its all reminding me of  the book Animal Farm.
Now this is really goin to piss off the locals.

You're just listing short quips of liberal propaganda. Zip it, hippie.

You tell me off because you think im using quips and liberal propaganda. Then you label and generalize with "Hippie"
If you can't debate then don't post.

Random-Hero58 wrote:

1. So far no proof showing he had WMD's or didn't have WMD's.

Okay, here's a good one for you:  If Saddam did have WMDs, where are they now?  Come on Sherlock, you can do it.

Y0URDAD wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

One has to admire the sheer audacity of the americans though. I'd liken it to walking into someones house, stealing the telly and then leaving one massive turd on the sofa for the owners.

If by "house" you mean country, by "telly" you mean dictator, and by "one massive turd on the sofa for the owners" you mean democracy, then you're spot on. hippie.

Not quite but you're nearly there...

House=Country
Telly=Oil
Turd=Embassy

...and I'm no hippy navy Boy.

The saddest thing is that our House just approved an appropriation of $30 billion to fund the war, simultaneously cutting the budgets for our national education and healthcare initiatives, plus accepting tax cuts to the top/richest 1% of our nation, forcing the rest of the country to make up for the lost revenue.

And all the republicans could do was boast about the $100 they added to our Pell Grants, while saying that they didn't have enough money to appropriate to education/healthcare/everything else fucked up with this country.  Another case of the people in power being republicans before being Americans.

I've posted that several times...but the right wingers decide to just ignore it or dismiss it as a conspiracy, when in truth, it was penned and signed by people in the Bush Administration itself.  They tried to enact it when Bush Sr. was in office, and ended up drafting a full version in 1996 after Clinton kicked them all out of the White House.

Back to the topic...

...the whole logic of using 104 acres is in the fact that this embassy will be a target, as most US Embassies in the middle east.  With that much acreage, they should have a fairly safe buffer zone from any major RPG and car bomb attacks.  It may seem excessive, but it is needed given the current situation.  Personally, I think that instead of such wasteful spending on it, they should just continue to commandeer one of Saddam's old palaces, but that's just my .02.

RicardoBlanco wrote:

...and how did the americans get it free? I'd be surprised if it'd been a gift...

Your British soldiers are paying for it with their Blood as are ours.  Nothings Free.  Freedom is not Free.

Maybe the new PM gave it to us for rigging the Iraqi Elections.

Just because we will have an Embassy doesn't mean we are going to take all the oil or control the country.

104 Acres---We Americans feal if you are going to do it, you might as well do it right the first time

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tip700 wrote:

Produce factual information about there being WMDs in iraq so the war was justified
Produce factual information that oil isnt being taken
Produce factual information that a alot of innocent civilians lives werent compromised.

dont just be a hypocrit and dodge the facts. answer them

some of this I have repeated on other posts, but heregoes

wmd's

1*The treaty that was signed by Saddam was the reason for the war, you are a victim of revisionist media that has made a full throttle effort to make you forget this.
2*In the treaty it was stated that he was to have no WMD's or related equipment, AS WELL AS granting full freedoms to any and all inspection teams, which he did not do, THIS ALONE constituted a breach of the WMD statute
3*you are thinking "nuke" and the like when you hear WMD, the full definitions can be found in the original surrender treaty from Hussein's failed 1990's campaign, as well as UN resolutions 678, 687, and 1441, all of which you can google cuz i'm tired of doing it for you
4*there were numerous violations of this statute of the treaty, including dual use labs, several thousand gallons of weapons grade chemicals used to make bio weapons, some of which were lethal on their own, long range missiles with warheads capable of holding chemical and biological weapons, some of which had Israel and Turkey in their targetting systems, and 500 tons of uranium a few miles south of Baghdad
5*if you walk into a bank with a backpack full of dead cats, and say you have a bomb, you have committed a crime even though you don't have a bomb, assuming he did not get a chance to get rid of anyweapons during the time (six months) the UN was stalled by countries (France, Germany, Soviet Union) that just happened to be implicated (by evidence in Saddam's briefcase when he surrendered) in Saddam and Kofi Annan's son's oil for food scandal, he was telling his own people in public addresses he was still capable of producing them and in possession of them

oil

6* oil was being taken, see point 5

citizens

7* they were being compromised, this happens when the leader of your country wages a war "to re-establish the Babylonian Empire" from Egypt to Pakistan (never was sure whether he meant to he was going to stop at Egypt, or include Egypt), loses the war and surrenders, the breaks the terms of his surrender
8* they were also compromised when they were used to fill potholes by the thousands, apparently Hussein thought that Kurds were much cheaper to produce than asphalt

Capt. Foley wrote:

Some hippys just are too high all the time to know what teh fuck is going on the the world sadly. Oh well, Im done arguing with these people who think that opinions are stronger then facts. DUMBASSES.

i seriously doubt there are any "hippies" on these forums.

you are an ignorant conservative