Poll

What would make Euro Forces better?

More vehicles, too much U.S. equipment.9%9% - 30
More vehicles and another PLA vs. EF map.14%14% - 48
It's ok just as it is.4%4% - 14
I don't care.4%4% - 14
It can never be good, EA messed up on this one.7%7% - 23
Make it free, then people might play it.34%34% - 113
Have some maps featured in Europe.25%25% - 85
Total: 327
Phrozenbot
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Hmm, that map seems awfully big. I'm looking in Google Earth and I can't really tell where the tall skyscrapers are at. I see a river going through, and it shows up other small locations or maybe cities that overlap with Shanghai. I'm trying to figure out the city as best as I can. Looks like I might have to re-write the briefing a little Good job though. I think we need someone who is well versed in this area to take a look at it.
Natte
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+12|6744|Sweden
That map is a bit to big, it´s like Strk at kark x20. But I like the concept of the map, it´s just to big .
Kratos Aurion
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I know it became big, didn't really know where to set all flags and stuff. It was hard to find a good place, because the city was so bit. But you can always skip some neighborhoods and get it  like Karkand, Sharqi size ^^
Glad you liked it anyway, I don't want it that big either.


And one more thing. How about give Euro Force a new sniper rifle? Like PSG-1 and give L96 to SAS in Special Forces? L96 would still be an unlock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSG-1

Last edited by Kratos Aurion (2006-07-03 07:00:27)

Natte
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+12|6744|Sweden
I think that Sniper idea could be good, but Sweden(Deviloper of the weapon),GB,Germany,Holland and Belgium uses the L-96(AW) http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn06-e.htm  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L96 so that sniper change coulb be a bad idea bcz so many countries uses is. We could give it to SAS, but I don´t think we shoul take it away from EU

Last edited by Natte (2006-07-03 06:56:43)

Kratos Aurion
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Natte wrote:

I think that Sniper idea could be good, but Sweden(Deviloper of the weapon),GB,Germany,Holland and Belgium uses the L-96(AW) http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn06-e.htm  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L96 so that sniper change coulb be a bad idea bcz so many countries uses is. We could give it to SAS, but I don´t think we shoul take it away from EU
Yeah thats true. I think the PSG-1 suits the SAS better then the M24.
Natte
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Yeah, the only countrie that uses the M-24 is U.S.A.
Schlusi=[GER]
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+11|6741|4856 Karkand,Hellstreet 4
Hi folks,

there should be some city maps... (in Europe for sure!)
Natte
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+12|6744|Sweden

Schlusi=[GER] wrote:

Hi folks,

there should be some city maps... (in Europe for sure!)
Have you read the topic?
Afrika_18
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+26|6762
Put the freaking tank barrels on the other side like MEC, Coalition and PLA!!
Phrozenbot
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PSG-1 looks very sexy. 5 rounds and semi-auto, hmmm. I say replace the unlock with this baby, or maybe something elese. EF gets to keep the L96 as stock.
imdead
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Delta_38DS
Self Proclaimed A10 Whore
+27|6784
I think euro forces would have been alot better if it had..

A euro fighter that doesn't curve to the left (does it still do that?)
One more map
More vehicles.
And for sales,  make it so the weapons can be unlocked for bf2.
The weapons are great but the maps are way too big, except great wall, for them to be of any use.
Also 64 player maps.  What happen ea?  Did you get too tired to make one more map size?!?!?!  Its not that hard...

Last edited by Delta_38DS (2006-07-08 02:23:13)

Kratos Aurion
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Hellogoodsir wrote:

Once we all agree on what we want, we could make a petition or all email EA. I'm going to play BF2 for a long time, screw BF2142.
Maybe it's time to make that email? Public beta and stuff, you know
Phrozenbot
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Kratos Aurion wrote:

Hellogoodsir wrote:

Once we all agree on what we want, we could make a petition or all email EA. I'm going to play BF2 for a long time, screw BF2142.
Maybe it's time to make that email? Public beta and stuff, you know
I need to ask Snake for that email addy.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6937|Riva, MD
Make it so you don't have to using that motherfucking EA downloader, that piece of shit doesn't even work for me.  Put the god damn game on CDs like any normal company would, why the fuck would you FORCE people to download it online, that's so retarded.
Arcano-D.E.S
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+13|6766
They could have made it better by adding 2 more  maps. Having a couple of them being urban maps. Having 1 map that was a Chinese/EU air map so the Euro Fighter could take on the j10 would have been great. Taraba is just garbage, they should have added more flags, taken away the bombers and added choppers and most importantly given each side a transport heli. I would have gladly paid 20 bucks for 5 decent maps that showcased the equipment.

Oh yeah and maybe mix up the maps. Make some assaults or a map with no uncaps.

Last edited by Arcano-D.E.S (2006-07-24 16:51:02)

Fld_Mrsl_Arts
The Pain Train's Comin'
+19|6715|Scotland
definatly hav some maps in europe, it seems that in this game we are always ( until AF ) fighting in China or the middle east, why do we never fight on our own turf, it would make for some great gameplay, like the bocage (from the Normandy Landings WW2) that would make a superb map, so would a Paris or city map, such as Berlin etc. it would be great. even london, sniping from the london eye. that would make my life. (sad life i know)
Fld_Mrsl_Arts
The Pain Train's Comin'
+19|6715|Scotland
btw guys i was thinking that if we really wanted to do it properly we should think of a real life EU vehicle to replace each of the elements that we dont like about the EU in EF, so the DPV would be replaced by the .... and then the hummer and so on. then someone could send that to EA, with a load of sigs. wouldnt hurt to try.

here are some ideas, DPV - British ATMP
                                HUMMWV- British MLV
                                Linebacker - Polish PZA LOARA (maybe?)
                                LAV-25 - British Warrior

Last edited by Fld_Mrsl_Arts (2006-07-24 17:12:08)

Phrozenbot
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_J5689_, on a marketing stance, it's good for you, me, and EA if they distribute it via EA downloader. For having such small content, the price for shipping, boxing, and burning it on CDs wouldn't be very profitable, or profitable at all by charging people 10 bucks or 5 Eu. You would be dishing out maybe 15 or 20. It's a lot easier for them just to put it on their cheap servers, and cheaper. The problem I have with this is, we could probably have gotten this content free from other developers. We all know Dice needs to make money, but this is why they make expansion packs and newer titles aka. Special Forces and 2142. It is nice though to have EF while others don't. People hear about how great it is, or how sucky it is, and there isn't much content floating around to give people an idea what Euro Forces is like. Unfortunately, EF has a very small fan base, but I see it still lingering on for a while.

Bottom line, EF should have been cheaper, had more content, or both. PayPal should have been an option also.

Arcano, those things you suggested sound awfully familiar.

Yea, the Polish PZA LOARA pretty much fits mobile AA perfectly for EF. The IFV was either Italian or something else suggested. Good suggestions though. That ATMP kinda looks like that transport in SF. Even though it looks different, I like it. The DPV looks odd compared to the FAV, so the diversity is well deserved.
Fld_Mrsl_Arts
The Pain Train's Comin'
+19|6715|Scotland
i was just wondering do any of you think that EA would put these things in a patch, like even if we got 1000 sigs?
Kratos Aurion
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Fld_Mrsl_Arts wrote:

btw guys i was thinking that if we really wanted to do it properly we should think of a real life EU vehicle to replace each of the elements that we dont like about the EU in EF, so the DPV would be replaced by the .... and then the hummer and so on. then someone could send that to EA, with a load of sigs. wouldnt hurt to try.

here are some ideas, DPV - British ATMP
                                HUMMWV- British MLV
                                Linebacker - Polish PZA LOARA (maybe?)
                                LAV-25 - British Warrior
Hellogoodsir and Natte made a list on the first page of this thread. And then I added Fld_Mrsl_Arts ideas.

Dardo IFV- Italian APC*
VCBI IFV- French APC*
PZA Loara- Polish Mobile AA (like the Tunguska)
Mistral- French AA turret
HK21E- German Mounted LMG
AT4- Swedish Anti-tank Rocket for AT class*
APILAS- Finnish Anti-tank Rocket for AT class*
P8- German Pistol (Sorta like  the MR-444)
Swingfire- British Wire-Guided Ground Defense*
MILAN II- French Wire-Guided Ground Defense*
Mercedes- Benz G-Class- Multinational Fast Transport
VBL- French Heavy Transport
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JAS Gripen- Swedish Aviator (1-2 seat plane with a bombing seat)
Sea King- Transport chopper
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DPV - British ATMP
HUMMWV- British MLV
Linebacker - Polish PZA LOARA (maybe?)
LAV-25 - British Warrior

I think we should try send this to EA with some signs.
But I think we must have many signs =/
Fld_Mrsl_Arts
The Pain Train's Comin'
+19|6715|Scotland
well you have my sig

but i think that we need to narrow down our choices, and then put like a most wanted for the changes, and the the other options. so like the way that you would put it would be

replace

LAV 25 - British Warrior (or watever we think best suits for the replacement)
DPV - so on and so on

and then make a list of other choices, but we need to have a list of the ones that would best replace each vehicle

Last edited by Fld_Mrsl_Arts (2006-07-25 03:33:29)

Kratos Aurion
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Fld_Mrsl_Arts wrote:

well you have my sig

but i think that we need to narrow down our choices, and then put like a most wanted for the changes, and the the other options. so like the way that you would put it would be

replace

LAV 25 - British Warrior (or watever we think best suits for the replacement)
DPV - so on and so on

and then make a list of other choices, but we need to have a list of the ones that would best replace each vehicle
Yeah, I don't think we can get some new maps =/
But replace some vehicles and the AT4 for Anti Tanks maybe is possible. And give EU a new pistol, like the P8 as Hellogoodsir suggested.

And Arcanos idea with transport helicopters on Taraba (?) was great. So we need a transport helicopter for the EU too.

Last edited by Kratos Aurion (2006-07-25 03:43:05)

Fld_Mrsl_Arts
The Pain Train's Comin'
+19|6715|Scotland
Things that need replacing -

LMG        - HK21E
Stinger    - Mistral
TOW       - MILAN II
SRAW     - APILAS
92FS       - P8
DPV/FAV - (Unsure)
HMMWV   - MLV
LAV-25    - Warrior IFV
Linebacker - PZA Loara
Blackhawk - Bell 212
F15            - JAS Gripen


Then list all other possibilities
Kratos Aurion
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Things that need replacing -

LMG        - HK21E
Stinger    - Mistral
TOW       - MILAN II
SRAW     - APILAS
92FS       - P8
DPV/FAV - (Unsure)
HUMVEE   - MLV
LAV-25    - Warrior IFV
Linebacker - PZA Loara
Blackhawk - Bell 212
F15            - JAS Gripen
SRAW(?)    - AT4

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