Poll

What would make Euro Forces better?

More vehicles, too much U.S. equipment.9%9% - 30
More vehicles and another PLA vs. EF map.14%14% - 48
It's ok just as it is.4%4% - 14
I don't care.4%4% - 14
It can never be good, EA messed up on this one.7%7% - 23
Make it free, then people might play it.34%34% - 113
Have some maps featured in Europe.25%25% - 85
Total: 327
venom6
Since day One.
+247|6778|Hungary
Maybe Hamburg (Germany) with the whole dokks and ships.Or some operation in the near middle east like defending Greek or Turky wich is a bit EU and a bit MEC.
Sweden/Norway/Finland would be pretty nice places for wintermaps as Moscow.The whole ice and snow everywhere would be awsome.
I agree with more medals,ribbons,badges.
And more maps !!!
{USI}_Zombie
Member
+11|6994
taraba could be incredibly fun if 1 change was made:
no jets....in my experience, this is a fun map for the pilots but not for anyone who uses a vehicle and it is too big to walk on.  I am not against planes, but in this map...only 4 people get to have a good time..I would love to play it without being bombed every time I get within 5 feet of a vehicle
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6836|do not disturb

Hey Natte, thanks for the feedback. I like the bomber you suggested, it will work perfectly. I have one problem with the Russians; they do not belong to the EU! For voices, it should be accent to whatever the kit of origin is. Basically by kit I mean weapon. Example would be the FAMAS for the Medic, which is French, thus the Medic would have a French accent.

Now I like the idea of MEC and EU fighting in Turkey or the south-eastern part of Europe. I would like to see the PLA making a counter-attack, coming from the artic circle (new artic camouflage anyone?) and fighting in the north-western part of Europe. Since I don't live in Europe, I'm not sure on how to brainstorm any geographical locations to fight. I would like one in Germany in a wooded forest with bogs and such. But other than that, I have no idea. A port could be a good location.

Zombie: Taraba Quarry could be a better map if it had more flags. It is simply too large for any force to make a cohesive attack. Since it is so big, the only way to get around is via transports, which are vulnerable to mines, tanks, mobile AA, and jets. Tanks are slower, but still have some threats, such as jets and other tanks. If there were more flags, there would be less space and time in order to engage the enemy, creating more larger and intense battles. Now this goes for all maps that are big. Do you know why people play MEC maps more than PLA maps? Simply because the maps are smaller and have more flags, thus the enemy is right around the corner. More flags in larger maps would give players more points, since they lack them. Karkand, Sharqi, Mashtuur, Warlord, and Ghost town seem to attract the point addicts.

I have a suggestion. What if EA were to create, as suggested, new maps in Europe, add new weapons and vehicles, change the EU a little, and put it in a patch for everyone to have for free? Now, it's going to be a large download, so EA could simply just release a patch without the EU add-on, and it could be downloaded later. The EU add-on does not include the content in the booster pack, such as the maps. It is simply to get people familiar with the EU, and if they liked it enough, could by the booster pack. Sorta like the demo for BF2, which was the reason I bought it. But don't get your hopes down, EA could allow people who previously bought the booster pack get more additional content, either for free or another booster. In the end, you would have a full-fledged EU army in the game.

Once we all agree on what we want, we could make a petition or all email EA. I'm going to play BF2 for a long time, screw BF2142.
hellsy
Member
+8|6816|Devizes, Wiltshire, UK
aye quake wars will own bf2142, what EF needs is a few decent maps, How about the EU stages an attack on hong kong to gain a foothold on China turf, It makes sence most of the population are still UK friendly and some resent china.

Also gives china a decent city map
Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6862|Sweden

hellsy wrote:

How about the EU stages an attack on hong Kong to gain a foothold on China turf, It makes sense most of the population are still UK friendly and some resent china.

Also gives china a decent city map
Hong Kong would be a great city map. But it's important that there is lot's of hideouts for infantry. Like backyards and narrow alleys. On the bigger streets there should be many burning cars


I did something in Photoshop, it's not that good and I pretty much suck at Photoshop.

https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9207/battleofhongkong1ny.jpg

EDIT: I saw now that there were some bad grammar and spelling in the picture. I think you understand anyway.

Last edited by Kratos Aurion (2006-06-28 13:05:30)

TheEqualizer
Member
+6|6752|Maryland, USA
I would have loved a Berlin or Stalingrad map from bf1942.
rootbeer73
Member
+24|6805|in a small dark place

Jenspm wrote:

WilhelmSissener wrote:

if it was on CD format too people might have played it more...
I second that...
amen
TheEqualizer
Member
+6|6752|Maryland, USA

rootbeer73 wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

WilhelmSissener wrote:

if it was on CD format too people might have played it more...
I second that...
amen
because you have enough bandwidth to play the game but not enough to download it?  do you want the patches on cd as well?
Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6862|Sweden

TheEqualizer wrote:

rootbeer73 wrote:

Jenspm wrote:


I second that...
amen
because you have enough bandwidth to play the game but not enough to download it?  do you want the patches on cd as well?
It's because of the payment, everyone doesn't have or want to pay with credit card.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6786|England

I must admit, I dont mind Taraba too much. Only really good "plane whores" (i suck in them, so never use them, so thats my generic term for fly boys ) will kill a tank with 2 direct bomb hits - and they dont appear all the time. I usually use the AA or race about in a jeep as an AT team. Never EVER sit at the bridge, its boring, linear, full of mines and like a battle of atrition tbh. Hit and take the Refinery at the foot of the hill and attack the nearest enemy flag from there with tanks/jeeps, etc.
But, not as fun as Smoke Hence why its my most played map now, and damn, the picture for it is great!

For the EU, to replace the Stinger sites - a Rapier system. Definite replacement, and would also pwn planes

I would also like to see their own theme tune (like AF has for the American theatre) for when the map loads and the ability to choose 1 set of custom voices, such as British, German, Spanish, French, etc etc (to suit everybodies nationality).

Some good themes maybe landing on the British Isles, such as the Channel Islands of Jersey, Guernsey and the others. Island hopping sort of thing (kinda like devils perch I suppose but less mountianous).

Or maybe a fight in Penzance on St Micheals Mount. When the tides down, you can walk across there, but when the tides in, you cant. http://www.britainexpress.com/counties/ … 0117-s.jpg
Would be a cool city fight, with the MEC main base on St.M.Mount.

Maybe around the Channel Tunnel? PLA forces (or MEC as immigrants!) came in along the tube under the Channel and attempt to raid the port of Dover? Would be an interesting theme.

Even the use of one of the many castles around the country, creating a kind of Great Wall themed map. Warwick castle would be awesome.

Maybe a raid on RAF Fairford during the RAF Air Tattoo day (they get planes from all over the world on that day for show to the public), with the EU vs MEC forces battling it out around all the planes, aircraft hangars, etc. Would be great to see the Red Arrows fly over mid battle

(yes, im English so all I know of is this country )

Last edited by Snake (2006-06-28 14:24:32)

Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6836|do not disturb

Kratos, I like the map! The map should have less armor though, and well placed tow I mean MILAN II.

I like where you are going Snake. I'd like to see MEC taking hold of some out lying islands, making base and attempting to land on the mainland. EU's goal would be to drive them out. Again, less armor. I'd rather see this map have more heli transports and RIBS more than anything else, so it would infantry fighting. Maybe a castle on the mainland. Crap I dunno, but it's gotta be fun.

Cobra (Turkey, if they get in the EU by 07) could be EU's heavy transport, or Humvee counterpart.
AS 550 FENNEC (Multinational) could be a scout chopper like those in AF.
AS 532 U2/A2 COUGAR (Multinational) could be EU transport chopper.

I also think the AT and Sniper class shouldn't share the P90 and L96 unlocks. Maybe they could get the Steyr TMP or HK UMP, and the TRG 41 / 42.
(US)THE.DEVILS.HITMAN
Member
+88|6764|Boise, Idaho
they should have had a map in Berlin where the chinese took it over and the US have to capture it back like in BF1942
Fenix14
scout rush kekeke ^___^
+116|6777|Brisbane, Aus

Kratos Aurion wrote:

TheEqualizer wrote:

rootbeer73 wrote:


amen
because you have enough bandwidth to play the game but not enough to download it?  do you want the patches on cd as well?
It's because of the payment, everyone doesn't have or want to pay with credit card.
yer thats the part screwing me over, if they releaced EF and AF in one pack in stores after patch 1.31 maybe that'd work. but i'll be a while yet before i can get either
Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6862|Sweden

Hellogoodsir wrote:

Kratos, I like the map! The map should have less armor though, and well placed tow I mean MILAN II.

I like where you are going Snake. I'd like to see MEC taking hold of some out lying islands, making base and attempting to land on the mainland. EU's goal would be to drive them out. Again, less armor. I'd rather see this map have more heli transports and RIBS more than anything else, so it would infantry fighting. Maybe a castle on the mainland. Crap I dunno, but it's gotta be fun.

Cobra (Turkey, if they get in the EU by 07) could be EU's heavy transport, or Humvee counterpart.
AS 550 FENNEC (Multinational) could be a scout chopper like those in AF.
AS 532 U2/A2 COUGAR (Multinational) could be EU transport chopper.

I also think the AT and Sniper class shouldn't share the P90 and L96 unlocks. Maybe they could get the Steyr TMP or HK UMP, and the TRG 41 / 42.
I think it would work with three or maybe two tanks for each team if there was a lot of armor free areas. The Streets could be blocked with cars etc. It would be like Sharqi Peninsula, there is the tanks easy to avoid.

I like Snakes idea too and the vehicles you suggested. It would be nice with scout helis in EF.
But I really want the AT to have the Swedish AT4 (or what it's called) it would be fun to have some Swedish gears in the game. Wonder if the claymores in BF2 is Swedish? Because if you look at one you'll see the text "Denna sida mot fienden" it's Swedish and means "This side towards the enemy.

+1 to HelloGoodSir and Snake
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6786|England

Glad my ideas are liked

How about something like Ia Drang Valley in BFV, but based around the Cotswolds in England (where I live ). Would be kinda fun. Love to rain arty on my old school

EA...you guys damn well better read this topic.
Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6862|Sweden

Snake wrote:

Glad my ideas are liked

How about something like Ia Drang Valley in BFV, but based around the Cotswolds in England (where I live ). Would be kinda fun. Love to rain arty on my old school

EA...you guys damn well better read this topic.
Yeah it would be nice
Hope they read it.

More maps and other vehicles for EF would be awesome. And more players...

Last edited by Kratos Aurion (2006-06-30 11:43:59)

Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6836|do not disturb

Yay Karma! I'll return the favor.

Kratos: Problem with Sweden is that they do not belong to the EU I guess we could assume by 2007 that all European Nations that did not belong were called upon to join and help the EU fight MEC and PLA forces, especially if they are invading Europe. And what the heck is everyone fighting for?

Snake: For an invasion type map, I was thinking that on the mainland, there are a few spawn points. Now, I don't like the idea of having the spawn points far away from the beach or right on top of it so the invading force doesn't get a fighting chance, but I got an idea. We all know a spawn point has a few specific spawn locations linked to it. So when you spawn, you might be next to a garbage can, or a shed, or palm tree etc. It's not like they have a circle and you randomly spawn in it. I'd suggest making about 6 or 8 specific points, and most of them assigned inland and further away from the beach. Only a few will be near the beach and one will be right on it, so when a bunch of people spawn, most of them will have to walk or hitch a ride to the coastal defense. I say this so when the defending team starts to assemble, RIBs and maybe a few LAVs will alreadly be near the beach to land. If you folks need some visuals, I could whip one up on MS paint I guess.

I wonder how they would be able to manipulate the water to rise and sink like low or high tide Snake.

Another MEC vs. EU possibility is the EU assaulting a MEC oil platform in the ocean. I'm not sure of any in the Middle East, but if there is, let's find out.

I suggest we change Hong Kong to Shanghai. It's more fitting, and I even wrote a briefing. Tell me how you like it.

European Union forces, after successfully invading into China, are now preparing for an assault on China's economic citadel, Shanghai. The desecrated and demoralized PLA forces in the east is fiercely trying to fend off the European Union from advancing any further into China, while attempting to hold the USMC from the south. A remaining engineering corps is attempting to mine all ground access, leaving the EU to invade from sea west-bound. If the EU can capture Shanghai, supplies heading towards Alaska and west coast supporting PLA troops and armor will be cut off, allowing the USMC to drive out the PLA. If the PLA can hold Shanghai, the EU won't have enough time to reform a cohesive spearhead to make another major assault, while allowing the Chinese navy to finish off the European Union's naval fleet. Stakes are incredibly high, but the stalemate between the USMC and PLA in the south is the only option for the EU and USMC to gain the upper hand.

The briefing may be a bit long, so if anyone wants to make a shortened version, please do!

Last edited by Hellogoodsir (2006-07-01 22:45:48)

Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6862|Sweden

Hellogoodsir wrote:

Yay Karma! I'll return the favor.

Kratos: Problem with Sweden is that they do not belong to the EU I guess we could assume by 2007 that all European Nations that did not belong were called upon to join and help the EU fight MEC and PLA forces, especially if they are invading Europe. And what the heck is everyone fighting for?

I suggest we change Hong Kong to Shanghai. It's more fitting, and I even wrote a briefing. Tell me how you like it.

European Union forces, after successfully invading into China, are now preparing for an assault on China's economic citadel, Shanghai. The desecrated and demoralized PLA forces in the east is fiercely trying to fend off the European Union from advancing any further into China, while attempting to hold the USMC from the south. A remaining engineering corps is attempting to mine all ground access, leaving the EU to invade from sea west-bound. If the EU can capture Shanghai, supplies heading towards Alaska and west coast supporting PLA troops and armor will be cut off, allowing the USMC to drive out the PLA and focus on the troubling MEC invasion. If the PLA can hold Shanghai, the EU won't have enough time to reform a cohesive spearhead to make another major assault, while allowing the Chinese navy to finish off the European Union's naval fleet. Stakes are incredibly high, but the stalemate between the USMC and PLA in the south is the only option for the EU and USMC to gain the upper hand.
Sweden is in the EU, but we don't have Euro. The people of Sweden voted no to Euro. But I don't know if we have an army with EU, if there is an EU army.

Anyway I think your briefing was great!
Thanks for the karma
imdead
Death StatPadder
+228|6989|Human Meat Shield
AF killed it... EF was never really that good, they kinda messed up saying infantry battles on the wall, but they forgot to mention the Tanks and APC's in which they it is hard to get into the Wall with good Mines laid. Smokescreen is what AF should have been, Smokescreen is all out tank war, but they added aircraft. So that leaves AF as the superior booster even though Harvest is the best map in my opinion, Road Rage is easy, its a straight line, And Midnite Sun is Fushe Dark. Tabarra is okay, if there is a decent commander, I do like smokescreen though.
Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6862|Sweden
I played little Tabara now, it was two great rounds. The second round I got a gold medal and I played infateri the whole round
That map is just getting better and better. But Smoke Screen and Great Wall is still better.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6786|England

I played a round of Taraba last night, and managed to get a plane (even though I suck in them, thought it might be worth trying out the EuroFighter for once), I realised that the EU doesnt have a bomber - yet the MEC do on that map....

Another addition for EF - a bomber.
Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6862|Sweden

Snake wrote:

I played a round of Taraba last night, and managed to get a plane (even though I suck in them, thought it might be worth trying out the EuroFighter for once), I realised that the EU doesnt have a bomber - yet the MEC do on that map....

Another addition for EF - a bomber.
The Euros have a F15 on Tabara. But they need an own bomber, a Jas Gripen would be cool
Don't know if it got two seats...
Natte
Member
+12|6744|Sweden

Kratos Aurion wrote:

The Euros have a F15 on Tabara. But they need an own bomber, a Jas Gripen would be cool :DDon't know if it got two seats...
The JAS 39A Gripen and JAS 39B Gripen got two seats. In reality the 1 seated acts like a fighter(agility,speed etc)but it have a coumputer that does the bombing
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6836|do not disturb

Yes I think the Gripen would be perfect, and it looks similar to the Eurofighter (which IMO, should have cool skin because the euro fighter looks fugly). We can contradict this game with reality though, as Dice has. The F-15 is not used by the USMC, but it's in the game, so we can break a few rules too.
Kratos Aurion
Member
+36|6862|Sweden
"Assault on Shanghai"

Briefing by Hellogoodsir.

European Union forces, after successfully invading into China, are now preparing for an assault on China's economic citadel, Shanghai. The desecrated and demoralized PLA forces in the east is fiercely trying to fend off the European Union from advancing any further into China, while attempting to hold the USMC from the south. A remaining engineering corps is attempting to mine all ground access, leaving the EU to invade from sea west-bound. If the EU can capture Shanghai, supplies heading towards Alaska and west coast supporting PLA troops and armor will be cut off, allowing the USMC to drive out the PLA and focus on the troubling MEC invasion. If the PLA can hold Shanghai, the EU won't have enough time to reform a cohesive spearhead to make another major assault, while allowing the Chinese navy to finish off the European Union's naval fleet. Stakes are incredibly high, but the stalemate between the USMC and PLA in the south is the only option for the EU and USMC to gain the upper hand.

https://img285.imageshack.us/img285/3543/assaultonshanghai6xw.jpg

Green lines are bridges. 6 China flags, 1 uncap EU flag and 2 withe flags. EU attacks from the air with parachutes.
Maybe infantry only or one tank spawns at one of the withe flags and one of the China's last flag?

Last edited by Kratos Aurion (2006-07-02 12:50:01)

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