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kr@cker wrote:

To Esteban:

Politically correct pussywhipisms. I'm not bashing on you, it's just that we have all been victims of a massive campaign to pussify the planet by people who got their lunch money stolen from them in school and pantsed on the playground, they pick some degree where all you have to do is kiss the ass of a professor tha was treated the same way, became something like a reporter, and used wordsmithing to make everyone believe that we have to spend our lifetime catering to pussies. Think about it, if some dirty hippy saw me say "I'm ______ being white" they would think that I meant "I'm ______ I'm not black", insert any adjective you want, proud, happy, glad, ecstatic, orgasmic, aroused, none are ethically wrong in the first statement, but it often gets confused in the second.

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

To Esteban:

Politically correct pussywhipisms. I'm not bashing on you, it's just that we have all been victims of a massive campaign to pussify the planet by people who got their lunch money stolen from them in school and pantsed on the playground, they pick some degree where all you have to do is kiss the ass of a professor tha was treated the same way, became something like a reporter, and used wordsmithing to make everyone believe that we have to spend our lifetime catering to pussies. Think about it, if some dirty hippy saw me say "I'm ______ being white" they would think that I meant "I'm ______ I'm not black", insert any adjective you want, proud, happy, glad, ecstatic, orgasmic, aroused, none are ethically wrong in the first statement, but it often gets confused in the second.

I hate Political Correctness too!  But that was my point, saying you're proud to be white is as bad saying you're proud to be black but the PC brigade step in and stop anyone critisising ethnic minorities no matter how racist their statements are.  For example, have you heard of the MOBO awards over here (Music Of Black Origin), there would be uproar if we had a MOWO awards.

Furthermore, and tying in with Schuss' point, we have the PC brigade now trying to tell us we can't fly the England flag in public during the World Cup in case it upsets ethnic minority groups, how bad is that!  (It'll never work though they're already all over the place).

And Schuss are you getting the same reports over there as we are about what England Fans can and can't do in Germany this year?  If they imitate Jon Cleese's 'goosestep' they will be arrested and certain England chants will also be banned like "Two World Wars and One World Cup", the Damn Busters theme and the Great Escape Theme.  Germany seems like a country still not able to take a light hearted view on the war......

[bpuk]jack wrote:

We arent allowed to fly teh union jack or teh george cross now because it "offends Muslims and other ethnic minorities"

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=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

lowing wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

I have a problem with it and it doesn't make me racist and here's why.  The word "proud" is the defining factor in this case as by definition you can only have pride in an achievement or something that is overall better than its competitors.

In my view, people of all skin colours are equal and by saying you are proud to be white/black/yellow you are actually saying that your race is better than the majority.  Think about it, try and start a sentence with "I'm proud...." and choose anything you like but it will never be negative or equal to its comparatitive subjects. 

P.S. I'm white also

"I'M PROUD" of my kids even though they LOST their baseball game to a team that was BETTER than them.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, I don't see a problem with having pride.

Now by all means,...........go ahead and explain to me why this sentence doesn't work, or count for your challenge.

The problem with that is what exactly are you proud of?  If you think about it when you say something like that in that context you are actually saying I am proud of "the effort" my kids put in even though they lost.  You wouldn't say you were proud of the loss itself, agreed?  Thus you are proud of a positive (their hard work) and not a negative.

A better example of what I'm trying to say would be if your kid got a D in school and you said you were proud of them.  Again, you would be proud of the effort rather than the result because if you say "I'm proud my kid got a D" you are actaully saying you expected them to get a lower mark....

Hope that makes sense!!!!!

P.S.  There is a difference between being happy or content and being prideful.  I you say "I'm proud to be Irish" you are implying that you would not like to be another race and thus you must be, by definition, superior.  I'm happy being Irish/white/black etc sounds better.

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[bpuk]jack wrote:

another PC thing in britian is christmas in most places is being renamed Winter festival and you have a winter tree and winter light....apparently its insulting and offensive to muslims<<<once again>>>but i say ramadan and whatever else is insulting to me so are they going to rename that ? NO!...(EED(spelt wrong i no) etc)

all i can say is if i went to pakistan and said that their flag was offensive id be stoned and thrown out of the country