Conservatives agree the left wants openness and tolerance, Unless they Hold power.
Poll
Is Iran's President Ahmadinejad a new Adolf Hitler?
| Yes, the similarities are way too obvious | 28% | 28% - 47 | ||||
| No, that Guy's just another crazy SOB | 45% | 45% - 76 | ||||
| WTF is Ahmadinejad? | 25% | 25% - 43 | ||||
| Total: 166 | ||||||
I hear what you're saying, however some experts believe that he's trying to start problems (not necessarily war) with the US to hold onto power in Iran. The belief is that the people will eventually demand more freedoms which they don't want to give, however if they had "issues" with the west, they could have an easier time mobilizing their people and consolidating power. Who knows?CameronPoe wrote:
I believe that if Israel was out of the way then Iran and the rest of the Middle East would be able to have cordial relations with Washington. Their gripe is with the US' unswerving support for Israel. Take them out of the equation and the world would be a slightly more peaceful place. Iran could never attack USA and if they did they'd be fucked and they know it so - No Israel, No Problem.
Don't flame me for being 'anti-Israeli' - I do believe in a 2-state solution to their situation and that a predominantly jewish land needs to exist (a truly democratic egalitarian one though - not if it means Palestinians are going to be treated like an 'untermensch').
this is biased.
Yes, and uninformed in the nature of conception.
Why do you say you aren't allowed to hate Israel? Are you making some type of implicit reference? If you are man...it's really fucking obscure. Clarification = tehneedud.Horseman 77 wrote:
He isn't a Hitler. But he hates israel, which you are not allowed to do.
My old girlfriend worked for Sterns Magazine.
Last edited by Xietsu (2006-06-13 18:24:27)
agreed. +1Xietsu wrote:
Yes, and uninformed in the nature of conception.Why do you say you aren't allowed to hate Israel? Are you making some type of implicit reference? If you are man...it's really fucking obscure. Clarification = tehneedud.Horseman 77 wrote:
He isn't a Hitler. But he hates israel, which you are not allowed to do.
My old girlfriend worked for Sterns Magazine.
Just because you have liberal views it doesn't mean you have to accept and stand for values/beliefs largely supported only by assumption and partiality.Pinto wrote:
So much for the open and tolerant left.Bubbalo wrote:
Based on the fact that he isn't running around kicking out and killing the ones in his country? I want all hardline conservative dumbasses wiped off the map, that doesn't mean I'm going to go on a killing spree.Sh1fty2k5 wrote:
oh Cameron, im sure he wants both Israel and jews wiped of the map.
Last edited by Xietsu (2006-06-13 18:26:15)
this was posted earlier in a forum. i suggest everyone read it.
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publi … 1934.shtml
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publi … 1934.shtml
CameronPoe wrote:
If that were the case then he'd be breaking out the Zyklon B on the jews in his own country, of which there are many. They have lived in peaceful coexistence with their fellow persians for decades. Again - one must be careful to differentiate between general terms. A zionist is a jew but a jew may not necessarily be a zionist. Ahmedinejad's gripe is with the injustice suffered by the Palestinians and the fact that the third holiest shrine in Islam is now pretty much under the control of a zionist theocracy (although it masquerades as a democracy). 'Jews' do not necessarily equal 'Israelis' nor do they necessarily equal 'Zionists'. Amhmedinejad wants Israel wiped off the map, not jews wiped from the earth. As such, there is no comparison between him and Hitler.
In this Country ( The U.S.A. )
You must say you back and believe in a strong israel or you will not be elected. hillary clinton made the mistake of hugging an Arab woman and had to apologize for it. Withen a week she was telling people she was part jewish.
Help out? any americans disagree with my observation ?
You must say you back and believe in a strong israel or you will not be elected. hillary clinton made the mistake of hugging an Arab woman and had to apologize for it. Withen a week she was telling people she was part jewish.
Help out? any americans disagree with my observation ?
Last edited by Horseman 77 (2006-06-13 18:42:04)
Ahmadinejad is just a moron president that has little or no power in the world
Agreed !herrr_smity wrote:
Ahmadinejad is just a moron president that has little or no power in the world
Dont we hate eachother in another post ?
yet hes endorsing nuclear power. gosh what a dummy.herrr_smity wrote:
Ahmadinejad is just a moron president that has little or no power in the world
obviously(IF they plan on making nukes):
Nukes=no power what so ever, correct?
Last edited by T0rr3nt (2006-06-13 19:12:44)
Ya, gotta agree with you on this one Horseman. I agree with your observationHorseman 77 wrote:
In this Country ( The U.S.A. )
You must say you back and believe in a strong israel or you will not be elected. hillary clinton made the mistake of hugging an Arab woman and had to apologize for it. Withen a week she was telling people she was part jewish.
Help out? any americans disagree with my observation ?
How do you figure he's a moron?herrr_smity wrote:
Ahmadinejad is just a moron president that has little or no power in the world
I think someone needs to look in the dictionary for the word tolerance.Xietsu wrote:
Just because you have liberal views it doesn't mean you have to accept and stand for values/beliefs largely supported only by assumption and partiality.Pinto wrote:
So much for the open and tolerant left.Bubbalo wrote:
Based on the fact that he isn't running around kicking out and killing the ones in his country? I want all hardline conservative dumbasses wiped off the map, that doesn't mean I'm going to go on a killing spree.
Yeah, you. Tolerance doesn't mean accepting other views, it just means tolerating them, i.e. not harming people for thinking it.
That's the problem with US politics. A tiny minority (the Jews) control most of the money and the media and call the shots. Israel isn't so much the 51st US state, more the US being the Israeli satellite state/puppy dog.Horseman 77 wrote:
In this Country ( The U.S.A. )
You must say you back and believe in a strong israel or you will not be elected. hillary clinton made the mistake of hugging an Arab woman and had to apologize for it. Withen a week she was telling people she was part jewish.
Help out? any americans disagree with my observation ?
It's funny - some rightist Americans believe they're part of a wonderful 'American Empire' when really it's more of an 'Israeli Empire'. Ever wonder why Israel is sent billions of dollars in regular and military aid every year out of the US budget (more than any other country) when top US academics can't see how the US benefits strategically or in any other way from supporting them so.
I wish the American political system catered more for American citizens and not zionists.
PS You can't tell anyone what country they can or cannot hate. I can't tell you not to hate Iran and expect you to comply.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-06-14 02:23:03)
Say what? People view anti-Zionists as anti-Semites, and since WWII that's become much worse than any other form of racism. It has little to do with direct Jewish power (there's a sizeable number of anti-Zionist Jews).
I don't subscribe to the view that being anti-zionist is racism. Zionism is a political concept. I also don't agree with the way in which anybody criticizing Israel is lambasted for being a racist or an anti-semite. I know there are jews who deplore what the Israeli government does. I don't generalise with respect to jews. The fact I stated did say that Jews control much of the money and media in America, which is true to a degree. It is reasonable to assume, especially given recent shifts in US foreign policy, that the people pulling the strings are zionists.Bubbalo wrote:
Say what? People view anti-Zionists as anti-Semites, and since WWII that's become much worse than any other form of racism. It has little to do with direct Jewish power (there's a sizeable number of anti-Zionist Jews).
I know you aren't a Zionist. Oh dear god do I know..............
I don't feel, however, that they are. The people pulling the strings don't really care, the issue is public perception.
I don't feel, however, that they are. The people pulling the strings don't really care, the issue is public perception.
Hitler only had one testical, he had something like epilepsy (not exactly sure what), his grand mother was jewish and he looked exactly the oppisite of an Aryan (the people hitler wanted to replace the world with, they all had blond hair blue eyes etc.)
So there are useless facts.
I dont know much about old mate in Iran but he seems to be a bit of a nut, hopefully he doesnt piss George off too much. That area of the world is too fucked up the way it is.
So there are useless facts.
I dont know much about old mate in Iran but he seems to be a bit of a nut, hopefully he doesnt piss George off too much. That area of the world is too fucked up the way it is.
I'm pretty sure that the idea that Hitler was part Jewish is a myth
Yes. One can sound like a crackpot conspiracy theorist when you bang on too much along those lines, which is convenient for those pulling the strings. Who knows what is going on the corridors of power in the US.Bubbalo wrote:
I know you aren't a Zionist. Oh dear god do I know..............
I don't feel, however, that they are. The people pulling the strings don't really care, the issue is public perception.
Oh, please. Everyone knows they're having orgies with seals.
For once I agree with you horseman. The Jewish people in the USA control vast amounts of wealth and power and politicians have been pandering to them for decades. I don't think its the Jewish voters they are worried about, its more the money men.Horseman 77 wrote:
In this Country ( The U.S.A. )
You must say you back and believe in a strong israel or you will not be elected. hillary clinton made the mistake of hugging an Arab woman and had to apologize for it. Withen a week she was telling people she was part jewish.
Help out? any Americans disagree with my observation ?