BF2S Forums What a waste of money.

FMCDelrok wrote:

Kobrakai wrote:

They did give people what they want, there are some great city maps in special forces. Too bad so many people dont want to buy it for some reason.

But Special Forces time doesn't add to your BF2:vanilla time does it?  I mean that's the main reason I don't play it.  It takes enough of my time going from First Sarg to Master Guns that I dont' have time to waste on special forces maps.  Or correct me if I'm wrong.

Correction commencing...

Every point, award and minute played on an SF map is added to your total. You can earn all the vanilla awards (except the jet pilot ones, of course) by playing SF. Often you will get 2 similar infantry badges within a few kills of each other, as the SF varieties require a few more kills.

The only thing that doesn't transfer is army time.
If you can't live without the Navy Cross and its MEC and PLA counterparts you have to log 250 h per army.
See you in 750...

So don't miss out, go play some SF!
There are maps there for every taste, and the grapple hook and zip line let you use *all* the buildings, not just the ones with ladders or stuff you can jump to from the hatch of a vodnik. Hell, you can even use all those balconies for your sniping pleasure! In vanilla they are just window dressing.

Enjoy Karkand? Try Warlord! Great place for awards. No helis.
Sharqi your fave? Try Ghost town!

Now that the TOW bug is fixed there is loads of unique fun to be had on the night maps.

@ the OP: I disagree.

Granted, the maps are too big for their number of players, but server admins are finding that out and putting up 32players/16map & 40-50/32 servers.

Huge armor battles on Taraba, fantastic infantry action on 32/16 Great Wall. I love that map. The 32 map lacks focus and has too many vehicles, but 16 is just what the doctor ordered. 95% of the action is where it should be: on and inside the wall.

Smoke screen is somewhat disappointing, mainly because of unbalanced and bug-ridden EU aircraft.
The Tiger AH is very hard to land without damaging it, and even taking off is buggy.
The Eurofighter is a joke. It handles like a bus with wings, not like the highly agile plane it is IRL.

If these bugs are fixed at some point i believe the map will be another winner. Good, semi-symmetrical layout with lots of terrain features to use to your advantage. Towers and burning cisterns galore to mask your heat signature, huge plumes of sooty smoke to hide in, open vistas for vehicles, clustered buildings for some CQB, nice mountain ridges, no annoying bombers...

Last edited by NPN_Scorpio (2006-03-16 01:58:43)

imdead wrote:

ah... I played the great wall and love that map; even with the 32.. 8vs8 really doesn't do justice, I would like to see 32vs32 all inside the wall with no armor. But the armor is just a pest anyway, get a couple ATs and run from post to post and he can't get you anyway, I was in armor and found it difficult to raise and fire and try to find his ass. The other two are for armor whores and flyboys imo.

Damn EU and thier left handed tanks =p

I've unfortunately come to the same conclusion as the OP: the maps are too large, with not enough content. They bore me more than anything, and that's annoying. Now don't get me wrong - I paid, like, £5.99 for these maps/weapons, so it's not like it broke the bank or anything, but even then I'd expect some kind of worthwhile content.

This is just...boring. Taraba Quarry is the stinking ass-end of the selection, and Great Wall I concede might be good with lots of infantry, but I've yet to have a good game on any of them.

A real pity. I can only hope that AF is better, because tank + city maps = fun.

c0ldfyr3 wrote:

Am I the only one here who thinks EF is a waste of money ?

I bought it as soon as it came out, anything for new ranked maps. And they turn out to be the biggest load of bullshit since Bill Clinton was in office.

There is absolutely no content whatsoever to any of the new maps !
Take the original six maps, and even the SF maps, they have so much minor detail, well laid out, time was actually dedicated to their creation.
With EF, two are just huge masses of land with 0 content, apart from some dodgy *smoke*, and Great Wall has the playability of a RubixCube.

I don't mind paying $10 for new maps, but when their empty, it really grinds my gears

Are you just bitter cause you could'nt afford your porn that week?

The original poster is just a troll trying to get some attention.  Unless his profile is TOTALLY wrong, his last battle was in July, 2005.  So how ya enjoying Euro Forces?

c0ldfyr3 wrote:

Am I the only one here who thinks EF is a waste of money ?

I bought it as soon as it came out, anything for new ranked maps. And they turn out to be the biggest load of bullshit since Bill Clinton was in office.

There is absolutely no content whatsoever to any of the new maps !
Take the original six maps, and even the SF maps, they have so much minor detail, well laid out, time was actually dedicated to their creation.
With EF, two are just huge masses of land with 0 content, apart from some dodgy *smoke*, and Great Wall has the playability of a RubixCube.

I don't mind paying $10 for new maps, but when their empty, it really grinds my gears

I try to refrain from bashing other players. But when someone who only played BF2 for 5 hours in total starts flamming a game that he haves I'll say 0 experience playing. Should shut his mouth. Come back to us and say that again when we see you as First Sergeant. That way we won't brush you off as a whining noob.

For 10$ I think the booster is worth it. I never tried it yet. Some people expect they should be getting a huge run for their money for their whopping 10$ but they're just naive. You get what you pay for. It's just added contented. Less than a buck per new content added.

VspyVspy wrote:

I can't think of too many other things you can buy that provides unlimited fun for $10.00

Shit, I spent $10.50 on my lunch today and that only lasted for 5 minutes!!

That's a fair point.

Ya see, the thing that gets me is why did we have to pay for this? Could we not have downloaded this meagre content for free? I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that it's a bit of a farce, not least because the likes of Valve/Steam can release content on an almost monthly basis....for free. That is quality support.

Again, don't get me wrong: I've clocked up almost 450 hours on BF2. I love it: I think it's an awesome game. But being made to pay for tiny content updates such as this is stupid, and takes the piss out of the community.

I dunno...I really like the maps...the extra vehicles and armor provide with some serious thought out team work action.  I also like the open terrain of some of the levels, it brings on some serious battles in the actual woods were your coverage is logs, bushes and trees....every other map around the cover is always buildings and structures...I would like to see a jungle warfare map with foxholes and rivers that the rafts are patrolling...that to me would be bad ass...where you could actually get cover in the brush and hide....no buildings on the map and your strategy for flags would have to been in team support and defense.

I think an unbalance game for a structure would be cool too...have a 15 on 30 match were the 15 were in a locked down structure with main guns/tows/and fire holes in the building, and the 30 had to get into the heavily armored defense structure with their c4 and other tactics.

Last edited by fuzzyballs44 (2006-03-17 02:17:43)

Well played the 'other' maps yesterday and thought to myself, this is a tankwhores dream!!! Its funny in one map (forgot name sorry) there is so much smoke from oil rigs that you can't even see the flag. Great Wall is where it's at.

FFS, it is TEN DOLLARS.  That isn't even TWO BEERS at a bar in New York.  Assuming you can get a beer at a bar for $5, that's what, two hours of buzz for ten bucks?  Here's what I generally spend ten bucks on in NYC:

A pack of smokes (American Spirit, $7), a soda ($1.25) and a fat-ass danish ($1.75) = Lasts a day (at least the smokes do)

Less than two beers at a bar ($7 each) = Lasts about two hours at most

An appetizer at a restaraunt (Fried Calamari $9) and a tip to the coat-check girl  = Lasts until the next morning when I take a.... well, you know.

Cab fare less than 1/2 of the way from my work to my house ($21) = Lasts about 20 minutes at most.

BF2 Euro Force Booster Pack = More maps which last THE ENTIRE TIME I INTEND TO PLAY THIS GAME

So FFS.  TEN DOLLARS.  Did you expect a hooker to come with it?  It provides more options, that's it.  Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, you people are never happy.

Happy to see some other people like it. I think its AWESOME
that they made the Engineer a useful class. Whole squads of
engineers rolling around in tanks....

Coolest battle yet was on the Quarry map, where two tanks and
I were firing on anoter set of tanks on the other side! We took them
out, due to their lack of that third engineer. So sweet. That alone, IMO
was worth the 10 dollars, and that was only 1 round.